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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page.

1 Instructions
2 Candidate entries
3 Older nominations
4 Special occasion holding area
- 4.1 Articles for December 11 (and following days) – Hanukkah
  - 4.1.1 A Rugrats Chanukah
- 4.2 Articles for December 25 – Christmas Day
  - 4.2.1 Peace Candle
  - 4.2.2 Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation
5 See also

Purge

Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

DYK criteria

Official criteria: DYK rules and additional guidelines Unofficial Guide: Learning DYK

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

To add a comment: |comment=

To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article       = Example
 | status        = new<!--(or) expanded-->
 | hook          = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author        = User
 | nominator     =
 | image         = Example.png
 | rollover      = An example image
 | comment       =
}}

Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}
If a reviewer finds problem(s) that require that an issue be addressed, notify the nominator with {{DYKproblem}}.

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Code	DYK Ready?	Description
{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with `{{subst:DYKproblem\|Article}}`
{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with `{{subst:DYKproblem\|Article}}`
{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on November 30

Joseph Moir

... that Joseph Moir built the largest stone shot tower in the southern hemisphere? Created by StAnselm (talk). Self nom at 10:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

You're Beautiful (TV series)

... that carmaker Audi used the South Korean miniseries Your beautiful to introduce their new Audi S4? Created by AhnSoonKyung (talk). Nominated by Calmer Waters (talk) at 07:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Speechless (Lady Gaga song)

... that the song "speechless" from Lady Gaga was written as a plea for her father to recieve the open-heart surgery he needed for a bad aortic valve? Created by Legolas2186 (talk). Nominated by Calmer Waters (talk) at 07:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Bijapur Fort

...that the large canon at Malik-i-Maidan at the Bijapur Fort (pictured) was so heavy at 55 tons that it discouraged the British from carrying it as a trophy to England? Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 05:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt Hook ---that at Saat Kabar near Bijapur Fort (pictured), Afzal Khan, the army chief of Bijapur Sultanate, before waging war against Shivaji, killed his 63 wives to prevent them from remarrying after his death?

Peirce Geodetic Monument

File:ProperfrontofPeirceMonument.JPG

... that the Peirce Geodetic Monument not only honors the late American philosopher Charles Sanders Peirce, but also serves as a marker to assist map creators, architects, landscapers, engineers, and scientists? Created by KrystleB (talk). Nominated by Calmer Waters (talk) at 02:54, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Yuma Quartermaster Depot State Historic Park

... that when Yuma Quartermaster Depot State Historic Park in Arizona was a U.S. Army post from 1864 to 1877, up to 900 mules were kept there to help deliver supplies to five U.S. states? 5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Nominated by Dincher (talk) at 02:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Fairyhouse Racecourse

... that the Irish Grand National steeplechase is hosted at the Fairyhouse Racecourse? 5x expanded by User:RTG (RTG). Nominated by User:RTG (User talk:RTG) at 01:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 29

Daithí Ó Drónaí

... that Daithí Ó Drónaí and his electronic synthesised fiddle progressed to the final of the first series of The All Ireland Talent Show? Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 04:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Pat Quinn (businessman)

... that Canadian police were called to a riot when "County Leitrim's favourite son" Pat Quinn brought The Rolling Stones to North America in 1965? Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 04:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Alice McGrath

... that the author of "Zoot Suit" called Alice McGrath, a leader of the Sleepy Lagoon Defense Committee, "one of the heroines of the 20th century"? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 04:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Bursaite

... that, decades after its discovery in 1955 in Turkey's Bursa Province, bursaite was officially discredited as a mineral in 2006? Created by A Welch89 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

William Nichols (architect)

... that English-born architect William Nichols designed and built statehouses for North Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi in the early 19th century? Created by Altairisfar (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

T. B. Walker

... that Minnesota Historical Society records say that the city of Minneapolis refused a gift from T. B. Walker of his art collection that included works by Raphael, Rembrandt, Holbein, Ingres, Titian, Bonheur, Turner and Michelangelo? 5x expansion. Self nom. SusanLesch (talk) 01:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

George F. Kugler, Jr.

... that New Jersey Attorney General George F. Kugler, Jr. was the father of Pete Kugler, who played ten seasons in the National Football League for the San Francisco 49ers? Created by Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Gasmouloi

... that the Gasmouloi were the descendants of mixed Byzantine Greek and Latin unions, and were employed as marines in the Byzantine navy? Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Tord Asle Gjerdalen

... that Tord Asle Gjerdalen twice rejected offers for a spot on the Norwegian cross-country skiing national team, due to time-comsuming medicine studies? 5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Siege of Corfu (1537)

... that in the Siege of Corfu (1537) (pictured) the Ottoman Emperor Suleiman the Magnificent was joined by a French fleet under Baron de Saint-Blancard? Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 20:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Length and date okay, offline referencing accepted in good faith. Todor →Bozhinov 09:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Robert de Chesney

... that the medieval English bishop Robert de Chesney was an early patron of Thomas Becket, later famous for his quarrel with King Henry II of England? 5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Nominated by Ealdgyth (talk) at 19:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Interesting article. I was at first confused by the term "Henry fitzEmpress", thinking it was some particularly egregious typo, before realizing it is a weird piece of Norman-French legacy. Ucucha 20:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium

... that the North Atlantic Treaty establishing NATO and the North American Free Trade Agreement were both signed in the Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium in Washington, D.C.? Created by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 19:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

German submarine U-607

... that when U-607 sank the neutral Irish merchant ship SS Irish Oak, her captain, Wolf Jeschennek, claimed that she was a Q-ship? Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 17:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Toy Trawler Spaniel

... that an example of the extinct Toy Trawler Spaniel is preserved at the Natural History Museum at Tring, which was bred by Judith Blunt-Lytton, 16th Baroness Wentworth? Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

alt hook ... that an example of the extinct Toy Trawler Spaniel (bred by Judith Blunt-Lytton, 16th Baroness Wentworth) is preserved at the Natural History Museum at Tring? —mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

British Motorcycle Charitable Trust

... that the current Chairman of the British Motorcycle Charitable Trust is John Kidson, former Isle of Man TT Formula 3 World Champion? Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Rudy Kennedy

... that Rudy Kennedy, a Holocaust survivor, was the leader of the campaign for compensation to British survivors who had worked for German companies under the Nazi policy of extermination through labour? Created by Hions (talk). Nominated by Zvn (talk) at 15:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Manila Thermal Power Plant

... that the Philippine government unsuccessfully auctioned the decommissioned Manila Thermal Power Plant three times before it was sold to a Malaysian company? Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 13:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, and hook sourced and verified. Calmer Waters 07:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Robert Peverell Hichens

... that sports car racer, yachtsman and rower Robert Hichens was also the most highly decorated member of the RNVR during the Second World War? Created by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC) self nom

Sword of Aragon

... that Sword of Aragon, a video game published in 1989, frustrated players with its copy protection that prompts them with inaccurate information?

Comment: The article was previously a copyviolation on creation and has been deleted. This is a 5x expansion of the cleaned-up article.[1]

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 10:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Gill (jarl)

... that according to a mediaeval Icelandic saga, Jarl Gilli dreamt of the violent death of Irish king, Brian Boru (pictured)? Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Alford plea

... that in an Alford plea a defendant in U.S. criminal court admits there is evidence to support a conviction and enters a guilty plea, while asserting innocence? 5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 08:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Akira Iwasaki

... that Akira Iwasaki was the only film critic arrested by the ideological police in wartime Japan? Created by Michitaro (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Wawon

... that the Battle of Wawon is considered to be Turkey's first real combat action since the end of World War I? Created by Jim101 (talk). Self nom at 06:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Request: if this DYK is approved, please also give credit to User:Hudavendigar, since he help on the draft and also provided most the materials for this article. Jim101 (talk) 06:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

- All set. I added a credit template for Hudavendigar. Ucucha 20:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Rommelspargel

... that more than a million Rommelspargel poles intended to hurt Allied paratroopers and glider infantry proved to be inconsequential in the invasion of Normandy? Created by Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 05:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 28

Jan Leighton

... that Jan Leighton, Guinness record-holder as the actor who played the most roles, told an interviewer that heaven for him was to "lie in bed stark naked" with no costume and "luxuriate in my own skin"? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 04:22, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Opening sentence

... that there is an annual contest for the composition of opening sentences for the worst novels? Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 02:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Polikarpov I-3

... that initial deliveries of the Polikarpov I-3 in 1929 were to units in the Belorussian Military District where they replaced the Grigorovich I-2? 5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 01:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Mexican handcrafts and folk art

... that Mexican handcrafts and folk art have been promoted by famous artists such as Diego Rivera, Frida Kahlo and Dr. Atl? Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Roger Helland

... that footballer Roger Helland scored Fredrikstad FK's first goal in the Norwegian Premier League in 20 years? Created by Rettetast (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

List of Ebola outbreaks

... that the recent outbreak of Ebola in Bundibugyo District in Uganda in 2007 was caused by a novel strain of the Ebola virus? Created by ChyranandChloe (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Summerland Oil Field

... that the world's first offshore oil wells began operations in as early as 1896 when oil was drilled from piers along the coast of Summerland, California, USA? Created by Antandrus (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Associated Motion Picture Pilots

... that Paul Mantz performed a world record 46 outside loops in a row to join the Associated Motion Picture Pilots, a union of stunt fliers working in Hollywood? Created by Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 10:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Ralph Basset

... that the medieval English judge Ralph Basset (d. c. 1127) earned a mention in the 1124 entry of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for hanging 44 thieves? Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Sugar Blue

... that Sugar Blue, the American Grammy Award winning blues harmonicist, took his stage name from Sidney Bechet's track, "Sugar Blues"? 5x expanded by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Fish Lake (Jackson County, Oregon), Fourmile Lake, Cascade Canal

... that water is diverted from Fourmile Lake over the Cascade Divide to Fish Lake (pictured) for irrigation purposes? Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

(alt.hook)... that the size of Fish Lake (pictured), located 4,639 feet above sea level between two volcanoes, Mount McLoughlin and Brown Mountain in Oregon, USA, is now three times larger than it was before 1902? [I don't have a hook for Fourmile Lake yet.] --PFHLai (talk) 12:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

That's great, although the reason I combined them is because I couldn't think of anything interesting about Fourmile Lake. If we were to go with ALT1 I think it would be best to shorten it a bit:

ALT2: ... that the size of Fish Lake (pictured), located between two volcanoes, Mount McLoughlin and Brown Mountain, is now three times larger than it was before 1902?

Or even ALT3: ... that the size of Fish Lake (pictured) is now three times larger than it was before 1902? Little Mountain 5 16:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

(alt.hook for both lakes)... that the size of Fish Lake (pictured) in Oregon, USA, taking water over the Cascade Divide via the Cascade Canal from nearby Fourmile Lake, is now three times larger than it was before 1902? -- [Perhaps a ***triple hook*** if a new article can be created for Cascade Canal soon? Does this canal deserve its own wikispace?] --PFHLai (talk) 20:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I'll try writing Cascade Canal, but I doubt I'll be able to push it over 1500 characters. Thanks, Little Mountain 5 23:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Done, and over 1500 characters! Tweaked the hook accordingly. I also removed the Oregon, USA part to make it more concise. Anyone who clicks the links will find out where they are. Little Mountain 5 00:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Whoa! That was quick! Thank you. I've adjusted the {DYKmake} templates to include the brand new Cascade Canal article.

I've restored "in Oregon, USA" to the hook. It should be there to give the hook some geographical context (Most people outside the US wouldn't know where the Cascade Range is.) for MainPage purposes. IMO, MainPage should appear more "international", and cater to readers from anywhere on the planet. All hooks should mention the when (era) and where (general geographical location), if possible. --PFHLai (talk) 02:29, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for your help! Sincerely, Little Mountain 5 02:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Rizong Monastery

... that Padmasambhava is believed to have meditated in the caves in the location of Rizong Monastery (pictured) in Ladakh, centuries before it was even built? 5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk) and Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 23:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Added an img.--Nvvchar (talk) 23:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Blind Young Things

... that the Royal National College for the Blind was the subject of the 2007 Cutting Edge documentary Blind Young Things? Created by PaulLargo (talk). Nominated by PaulLargo (talk) at 22:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Tiger Woods

...is not only the World's Number 1 golfer, but has broken a record for the most accumulated weeks as Number 1.--Pookeo9 ^{Talk If you need anything} 22:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Does not qualify for DYK per WP:DYK#DYK rules. Hook does not reference an article (particularly not a new article). Contributions are appreciated, but DYK has rather specific rules. --Orlady (talk) 00:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Trustee Act 2000

... that reform of the area of law eventually contained in the United Kingdom's Trustee Act 2000 had been requested since 1982? Ironholds (talk) 21:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Havnelageret

... that the fourth floor of Havnelageret in Oslo was used as an air-raid shelter during the Second World War because of its durability? Created by Sandip90 (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Georgi Valkovich

... that "elegant, witty and amusement-loving" Bulgarian physician, politician and diplomat Georgi Valkovich was assassinated by people dressed in carnival costumes? Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 20:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment: The quote may be removed if deemed unnecessary or inappropriate, I simply find it somewhat ironic. It might just be my sense of humour. Todor →Bozhinov 20:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Sara Stockfleth Christie

... that Sara Stockfleth Christie met as a deputy member of the Parliament of Norway before Karen Platou became the first female elected member of Parliament? Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Cut-throat Records

... that Canadian musician Nash the Slash's Cut-throat Records label has existed since 1978? Created by A Knight Who Says Ni (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I realize this isn't a great hook. Any suggestions? --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 03:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Heekin Can

... that during the latter part of the 20th century, Heekin Can was one of the largest U.S. manufacturers of food cans? Created by Orlady (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 15:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT1: *... that a firm headed by a former U.S. Treasury Secretary made a $28 million profit from its leveraged buyout of Heekin Can after putting no more than $1 million into the initial transaction?

Kate Nesbitt

... that Kate Nesbitt, the first woman in the Royal Navy to be awarded the Military Cross for bravery in Afghanistan while attached to 3 Commando Brigade, is just 5 ft 0 in (1.52 m) tall? 5x expanded by MickMacNee (talk). Nominated by MickMacNee (talk) at 15:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Date, length of expansion, and hook verified. modified hook to state that she was attached to 3 Commando Brigade to clarify, as theres a big difference between belonging to a perticular unit and being attached to that unit. Calmer Waters 08:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Environmental Organizations and Resource Persons in Tamil Nadu

... that at least 85 widely diversified organizations are involved with environmental conservation and environmental education in Tamil Nadu state, India? Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Ratha Saptami

... that the Hindu festival Ratha Saptami (pictured), which is dedicated to the worship of the sun, is celebrated in the Konarak Sun Temple, a temple that was named by the Times of India as one of the Seven Wonders of India? 5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk) and Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 13:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Added an img.--Nvvchar (talk) 17:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Rotating radio transient

... that rotating radio transients are among the brightest astronomical sources of radio waves, yet are generally detectable for less than one second a day? 5x expanded by James McBride (talk). Self nom at 11:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

A few milliseconds according to the article. That's a lot less.--Wetman (talk) 15:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

A single pulse lasts for a few milliseconds. Over the course of a single day, a few tens of pulses may be observed, so the total time over which an RRAT is visible is longer than a single pulse duration, but shorter than one second. Do you have any suggestion for how I might clarify that to make it clearer in the article? James McBride (talk) 20:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

How about replacing 'radio sources in the sky' with 'astronomical sources of radio waves' or something similar - that might be clearer to laymen. Olaf Davis (talk) 20:25, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Good idea. James McBride (talk) 21:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Everything looks good. Olaf Davis (talk) 15:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Sardanapale

... that Franz Liszt dithered for seven years over his planned opera, Sardanapale, before abandoning it?

ALT1:... that Franz Liszt's abortive attempt at a large-scale opera, Sardanapale, may have been intended to get him Gaetano Donizetti's post in Vienna?
ALT2:... that Franz Liszt may have abandoned his opera Sardanapale after reading Richard Wagner's essay Opera and Drama?
ALT3:... that Franz Liszt's abandoned opera Sardanapale was in part inspired by Eugène Delacroix's painting, The Death of Sardanapalus (pictured)?

Created by Smerus (talk) Self nom at 11:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Square root biased sampling

... that square root biased sampling was created to act as compromise between simple random sampling and strong profiling?

ALT1:... that square root biased sampling was originally developed as a way to sample long sequences of DNA?
ALT2:... that square root biased sampling was proposed as a more efficient use of resources in airport security screenings?
ALT3:... that square root biased sampling was developed independently by both William H. Press and Ruben Abagyan?

Created by Sophus Bie (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Werner Hosewinckel Christie (officer), Johan Koren Christie (officer)

... that the brothers Johan and Werner Christie both became Major General in the Royal Norwegian Air Force? Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 27

St. Timothy Catholic Church

... that St. Timothy Catholic Church (pictured) in Los Angeles has an antique gold leaf altarpiece believed to have been made in Spain in the 1600s? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 04:29, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Sainte-Émélie-de-l'Énergie, Quebec

... that Sainte-Émélie-de-l'Énergie in Quebec, Canada, is probably named after the wife of an early settler and the term Énergie (French for "energy") may refer to his energetic efforts to keep other settlers to stay? 5x expanded by P199 (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Fascist League of North America

... that in the 1920s the Italian ambassador to the United States asked the U.S. authorities to disband the Fascist League of North America? Created by Dudeman5685 (talk). Nominated by Soman (talk) at 21:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Christian Klengenberg

... that Danish whaler Christian Klengenberg opened trade routes to Copper Inuit territory? Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

La Belle Assemblée

... that the Regency era British women's magazine La Belle Assemblée featured original fiction and articles on politics and science in addition to fashion plates? Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Jake Drake-Brockman

... that in November 2009 Cocteau Twins singer Elizabeth Fraser released her first solo single "Moses" as a tribute to ex-Echo & the Bunnymen keyboardist Jake Drake-Brockman, who had been a close friend? Created by Jasper33 (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Red Dragon (1595)

... that the Red Dragon was the flagship of the first voyage of the East India Company?

ALT1:... that the general's pinnace of the Red Dragon was nearly destroyed by a young whale the general was hunting?
ALT2:... that the 38-gun ship Red Dragon visited both the West Indies and the East Indies during her service?

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 10:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Please disambiguate the links. Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 12:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes I worry even myself! Fixed. Harrias (talk) 13:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Dùn Dubh, Dùn Morbhaidh

... that a noted 20th century antiquary considered the four most interesting ruinous fortifications on Coll to be Dùn an Achaidh, Dùn Anlaimh, Dùn Dubh, and Dùn Morbhaidh? Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 08:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Bonnie Woods

... that after litigation filed by former Scientologist Bonnie Woods reached the High Court of Justice, the Church of Scientology admitted it had made false claims about her? Created by DFRussia (talk). Nominated by Cirt (talk) at 06:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I have some concerns about the NPOV of this article, particularly the statement that a creditor of theirs was located and provided free legal assistance to sue them into bankruptcy. Cirt will probably clean this article up but it shouldn't be promoted until then. Gatoclass (talk) 07:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Response: I removed the info questioned by Gatoclass (talk · contribs). I also checked the other cites, verified them, and added cites to the ends of two sentences to make their verification more clear. Cirt (talk) 08:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I was able to verify that questioned info itself as well. I added it back, and then tweaked it a bit for NPOV. Cirt (talk) 08:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, but the bankruptcy appears to be mentioned twice. Any chance you could clear that up too? Gatoclass (talk) 08:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. Cirt (talk) 08:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks okay now. Thanks for the quick response! Gatoclass (talk) 08:26, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Vichaichan

... that there was a Prince George Washington who became Front Palace and Vice King of Siam from 1868 to 1885? Created by Sodacan (talk). Nominated by Sodacan (talk) at 05:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Verified, but I think the phrase "there was a" etc is redundant, therefore:

ALT1:

... that Prince George Washington (pictured) was Front Palace and Vice King of Siam from 1868 to 1885? Gatoclass (talk) 06:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, made some superficial link changes but is fine now Sodacan (talk) 13:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Perry the Platypus

... that the Phineas and Ferb character Perry the Platypus was made a platypus because of the animal's striking appearance? 5x expanded by SuperFlash101 (talk). Nominated by SuperFlash101 (talk) at 05:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

David Farabee

... that the retiring Democratic state legislator David Farabee of Wichita Falls represents the most Republican-leaning district in Texas currently held by a Democrat? Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Trần Quang Khải

... that Trần Quang Khải was not only grand chancellor of Trần Dynasty for many years but also a famous poet and the creator of a traditional dance? Created by Grenouille vert (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Cleveland S. Rockwell

... that Cleveland S. Rockwell (pictured) used the sketches he made during topographical survey expeditions for the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey as the basis for his landscape watercolor and oil paintings?

Comment: See this reference to verify hook

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 02:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Malbis Memorial Church

... that the elaborate Greek Orthodox Malbis Memorial Church (pictured) in rural Malbis, Alabama, has never had an active congregation? Created by Altairisfar (talk). Self nom at 00:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Checks up in terms of date, length and referencing. Todor →Bozhinov 20:21, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Eleanor Evans

... that when Eleanor Evans was appointed as Stage Director of the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company in 1949, it caused a large number performers including Martyn Green, Ella Halman and Radley Flynn to leave the company?

ALT1:... that Eleanor Evans was appointed as Stage Director of the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company despite being a chorus singer for most of her time there?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 23:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I certainly prefer the first one, but if you like the second, you might say that it was "despite being demoted to the chorus for her last 15 years performing with the company." -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:50, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

BEST Bus

... that following court directives, BEST Bus launched limited 'disabled friendly' buses (pictured) on exclusive routes in 2005? Created by Rait (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 23:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Bill Inman

... that Bill Inman was the first medical graduate of University of Cambridge and delivered fifty babies from his adapted wheelchair? Created by Cg2p0B0u8m (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 23:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Rescued by Rover

... that the 1905 silent film Rescued by Rover was so popular that it had to be re-shot twice because the negatives wore out in order to meet the demand for prints? Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

W.W. Dumas

... that as the mayor of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, W.W. Dumas called a curfew in 1969 to halt riots after the fatal shooting of a fleeing black suspect by a white police officer? Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Eric Wood

... that Eric Wood finished his collegiate career with 49 consecutive starts at center, the second-longest streak in Louisville history behind Travis Leffew? 5x expanded by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Trần Nhật Duật

... that the Prince Chiêu Văn Trần Nhật Duật of the Trần Dynasty spoke foreign languages so well that he was once mistaken as a Chinese by a Yuan ambassador? Created by Grenouille vert (talk). Self nom at 21:04, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Accounting

... that token envelop accounting used in the Elamite city of Susa preceded the emergence of writing and abstract counting in the 2900 BCE? 5x expanded by Gavin.collins (talk). Nominated by Gavin.collins (talk) at 17:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Not expanded much in the last 5 days, also the article is at Accountancy. Geschichte (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment Clearly there is no point casting pearls before swine. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 22:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

What on earth are you talking about? Geschichte (talk) 09:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Gavin.collins is talking about his interesting hook. Geschichte, however, is talking about our elaborate nomination rules; please see WP:Did you know/Nomination for an introduction. Art LaPella (talk) 02:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Katherine Kersten

... that prior to being hired as a columnist for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Katherine Kersten worked as a lawyer and banker? Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 16:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Is this eyecatching? Geschichte (talk) 21:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

How about this, then: ALT1: "... that Minneapolis Star Tribune columnist Katherine Kersten has referred to President Bill Clinton's handling of affirmative action issues as "the Phil Donahue school of policy making"? Stonemason89 (talk) 01:20, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Rohr ROMAG

... that Rohr, Inc.'s ROMAG personal rapid transit system used a unique arrangement of linear induction motors to provide both traction power and act as a magnetic levitation suspension? Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Pete Heine

... that Pete Heine, the retired mayor of Baker, Louisiana, was the crew chief on a F-86 Saber jet during the Berlin Airlift?

ALT: ... that Pete Heine, the retired mayor of Baker, Louisiana, was a delegate to the 1973 state Constitutional Convention held in Baton Rouge?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Trustee Investments Act 1961

... that in 1997 the Law Commission called the Trustee Investments Act 1961 "overly cautious and restrictive", and suggested that some trusts were under-performing because of how difficult its terms were to comply with? Ironholds (talk) 14:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Hook is 215 characters. —mattisse (Talk) 16:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

alt hook suggestion ... that in 1997 the Law Commission called the Trustee Investments Act 1961 too "cautious and restrictive", suggesting some trusts were under-performing due to difficulty in complying with its terms? (195 char) —mattisse (Talk) 16:11, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Fine by me! Ironholds (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Length and date verified. Off line sources for hook accepted in good faith. —mattisse (Talk) 16:28, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Blown for Good

... that the book Blown for Good describes the author's experiences practicing the Scientology technique auditing with actor Tom Cruise? Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Length, date, and source for hook verified. (I edited the hook a little, as "auditing" is not capitalized in the article.) —mattisse (Talk) 15:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Upper Peninsula Brewing Company Building

... that the Upper Peninsula Brewing Company Building (pictured) had a tunnel to the brewery, allowing brewer Charles Meeske to ignore a law prohibiting entrance to a brewery after sunset? Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Length, date , and source for hook verified. —mattisse (Talk) 15:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Unspecified behavior

... that a valid computer program supplied with correct data may still exhibit unspecified behavior?

Comment: Hook located in the second para of "Definition".

Created by Decltype (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Length, date, hook verified. Tim Song (talk) 20:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Frederick Waymire

... that Oregon pioneer and politician Frederick Waymire was compared to Davy Crockett? Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 10:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 26

Franco-Polish alliance

... that a Franco-Polish alliance was formed in 1524 between King Francis I of France and the Polish ruler Sigismund I the Old only to be abandoned in 1525? Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 20:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

List of royal visits to Worthing

... that royal visitors to Worthing, West Sussex, have included Emperor Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia, who lived in a seafront hotel as a refugee? Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 12:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Waldo Hunt

... that Waldo Henley Hunt, "King of the Pop-Ups," could "make dinosaurs rear up, ships set sail and bats quiver in belfries"? Created by Bongomatic (talk), Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 23:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Myinsaing Kingdom

... that the Myinsaing Kingdom was established in 1298 by three brothers who invited King Kyawswa of Pagan to lead the dedication of a monastery, only to dethrone him and force him to become a monk there immediately afterwards?

Comment: A better wording of the hook may well be possible...

Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by Olaf Davis (talk) at 20:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Government Cable Office (Seward, Alaska)

... that the Government Cable Office in Seward, Alaska, provided the first telegraph service to the town from the continental states? Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 05:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

St. Martin of Tours Catholic Church

... that St. Martin of Tours Church (pictured) was the site of Dan Akroyd's eulogy to John Candy and a media frenzy when O.J. Simpson appeared at his slain wife's funeral? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 18:28, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

St. Thomas the Apostle Catholic Church (Los Angeles)

... that a 1999 fire in St. Thomas the Apostle Catholic Church caused an estimated $1.2 million in damage? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 05:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I had intended to nominate this article myself an offer the following 'alt hook:

... that LA's Mission Revival St. Thomas the Apostle Church (pictured), built in 1904, re-opened in 2002 after being badly damaged in an arson fire? Cbl62 (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Zephyr (sculpture)

... that the outdoor sculpture Zephyr is dedicated by its artist to today's youth? Created by Ltalley09 (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 05:47, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Length ok, date of creation is actually the 25th, but it is eligible anyway. Virtual tour verifies hook. decltype (talk) 00:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Henry Armstrong Reed

... that, while Henry Armstrong Reed (pictured) died in the Battle of the Little Bighorn and is buried in Monroe, Michigan, his removed scalp is on display in a museum in Wichita, Kansas? 5x expanded by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Not a 5x expansion. It was 1006 characters before expansion and is 2458 characters now. It would need to be 5030 characters (1006 x 5 = 5030) to qualify. —mattisse (Talk) 17:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Santa Clara del Cobre

File:CopVaseSCCobre.JPG

... that some of the hand hammered copper work of Santa Clara del Cobre has been collected by museums and international collectors? 5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

the hook is too bland, and does not say what Santa Clara del Cobre is. Was the copper work created by you or created more than 100 years? Or you have a direct permission from the artist? If that, that can not be in PD. Size, date are verified. Spanish sources are accepted per AGF.--Caspian blue 06:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Im open to suggestions for an ALT (and Ill keep thinking) but the main reason for this town's notability is its copper products. The pictures I have are of things I own and are utilitarian objects, pans, jars, vases etc. which can be photographed even if they are decorated in a very artistic way.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

After a consult with a Commons admin, I can say that the image is definitely not in PD, even though you own the art piece. However, you do not own the right to publish the image under PD-self unless you get a direct permission from the artisan. You need to move from the image on Commons to English Wikipedia, and then put a fair use image rationale to the image which can not be used for DYK hook as well unfortunately.--Caspian blue 01:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw your request to delete the image in Commons. I made my argument for keeping there. Perhaps we should hold off on this nomination until Commons decides if the image is acceptable or not?Thelmadatter (talk) 17:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT1 ... the P'urhépecha people of Santa Clara del Cobre, Mexico have been producing hand-hammered copper products since pre-Hispanic times?Thelmadatter (talk) 15:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Oswego (1756)

... that John Campbell, Earl of Loudoun tried to blame the British loss in the 1756 Battle of Fort Oswego on William Shirley? 5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Bill Keith (Louisiana politician)

... that former Louisiana State Senator Bill Keith authored a creation science law that was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1987 case Edwards v. Aguillard? Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Yelloweye rockfish

... that the Yelloweye rockfish (adult specimen pictured) lives to be as much as 120 years old? Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 23:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

...Of course, I never realized that it already had an article, just under its scientific name (added all the stuff from there to this and left a redirect). So I wasted a whole day improving an article that existed already anyway. Technically, it's still a new article; does it still count? (its not fivefold from the other though...)

The comment is about this old article which was then collapsed into a redirect to Yelloweye rockfish. What do you think? Materialscientist (talk) 10:49, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I dunno; what are the guidelines on article names? Scientific or common? For the most part with fish I see common names in use...still that was an epic fail :0 ResMar 16:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this meets the rules. It just doesn't seem cricket to me, never mind the technicalities. The guidelines for article names? That varies. Sometimes common names are best, sometimes scientific, depending on which names are used for which fish etc. We try not to use names that refer to multiple species (like peacock bass or European whitefish). innotata (Talk | Contribs) 21:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Alright, but really who writes an article on a species and doesn't put a redirect on its common name? Seems really, really stupid to me. ResMar 01:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Could I get you to tone that down to something like "really unwise"? Art LaPella (talk) 02:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

(My usually naive) suggestion to Mario: DYK is and should be widely treated as "no big deal", that is nominations fail every now and then. We (and I'm sure the others) still do value your work on this article. DYK is often a long-term relation. I would take it with a smile (yes, someone didn't place a redirect - maybe he got distracted by something :-) and come back with new noms, complying with the rules - we shall embrace that. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 05:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Trần Thuận Tông, Trần Thiếu Đế

... that Đại Việt Emperor Trần Thuận Tông was forced to cede the throne to his son Trần Thiếu Đế and thus held the title Retired Emperor at the age of only 20? Created by Grenouille vert (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Australian rodeo

... that Australian rodeo has a large competitor and spectator interest in the sport? Created by Cgoodwin (talk). Self nom at 20:14, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Australian rodeo was originally called Bushmen's Carnivals?Thelmadatter (talk) 02:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Im not sure if this article qualifies. First, while there are a lot of references cited, there are a number of one sentence "paragraphs" with no internal citation. Second. The first line of the article's history states "(Australian rodeo moved to Australian Professional Rodeo Association)" which does exist. I dont know if is truly a new article. If it does, length is ok.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

This article is similar to the content that I authored and submitted to Rodeo and then all of my submission was removed as a new article to Australian rodeo by Montanabw. I was totally unaware of existance of the APRA article, until it was linked by another editor.Cgoodwin (talk) 00:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment I did the move (I'm sort of the babysitter of the rodeo article and Cgoodwin's material was so extensive and nicely done it seemed to deserve its own article). The I discovered the redirect when I moved the rodeo material to create Australian rodeo. APRA is not representative of Australian rodeo as a whole, it's just one group, and I have no idea why the association article was ever linked to or called "Australian rodeo." (that would be like the baseball article being originally titled "Little League" or something) The actual content of the current Australian rodeo article is all Cgoodwin's and on behalf of WPEQ, we believe this article should be allowed to "count" as a new article and not be penalized for having once had its title inappropriately hijacked. Montanabw^(talk) 06:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good explanation to me! Since I am not Australian nor a rodeo buff, I couldnt really know that. I say go ahead and pass it.

Hairography

... that American entertainer Eve was asked to guest-star in the Glee episode "Hairography" after Whitney Houston declined to appear? 5x expanded by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Alden staRRcar

... that the Alden staRRcar was originally designed as a four-passenger electric car that could be driven onto automated guideways for high speed travel between cities, but emerged in the Morgantown PRT as a larger 20-passenger bus-like system for short distance travel? Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 13:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

266 character hook. Shubinator (talk) 16:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Winifred Carney

... that Winifred Carney was the only woman present during the initial occupation of the GPO in the Easter Rising?

Alternative:

... that Winifred Carney was the only woman present during the initial occupation of the GPO in the Easter Rising, entering the building armed with a typewriter and a Webley revolver? 5x expanded by Stuart (talk). Nominated by Stuart (talk) at 12:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

2009 Barack Obama visit to China

File:Voa obamao.JPG

... that during Barack Obama's 2009 visit to China there was Chinese merchandise with the name of "Obamao"? Created by . Benjwong. Nominated by 04:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

~~In the hook, articles need to be linked to and the article the DYK is focusing on should be bolded. In the article itself, the particular fact isn't referenced.~~ ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment: As the signature wasn't filled out completely, the nominator was User:Arilang1234 (talk). ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Hilarious image, but the image can't PD-self because it is not an original work of the phogographer. Fair use image could not be used for DYK hook--Caspian blue 04:16, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

The image is VOA image, is in the Public Domain, you can check the VOA website. Arilang ^talk 15:23, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

The image may be taken by the VOA writer with the PD license, but does not own the original copyright of the roadside merchandise. The photo is a derivative work of 2D art, so can not be in PD. That is what I'm talking about.--Caspian blue 00:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you are wrong, Caspian blue, anyone can take a photo of Mona Lisa(so to speak) and upload it into commons. The "art work" may not be PD, but the "photo" is PD. Arilang ^talk 01:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I've stricken out my note above, as the link has been fixed and references have been added. Now it just needs to be re-evaluated for any other problems or be approved. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Behind the Exclusive Brethren

... that the author of Behind the Exclusive Brethren decided to research the Australian religious group after discovering its close access to Prime Minister John Howard? Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Verified, but I would suggest adding the word "religious" to the phrase "Australian group" in the hook to help clarify what it's referring to. Gatoclass (talk) 23:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. Cirt (talk) 05:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Soricomorphs of the Caribbean

... that solenodons (pictured), the only surviving soricomorphs of the Caribbean, are a distinct lineage that may date back to the Mesozoic? Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

No mention of the Mesozoic in article. Gatoclass (talk) 16:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The Cretaceous is part of the Mesozoic. Ucucha 16:45, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The hook statement is supposed to be extant in the article, so you should either change "Cretaceous" in the article or "Mesozoic" in the hook. Gatoclass (talk) 15:16, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm willing to do that if required, but I prefer to argue a little further. Suppose we had an article stating something happened in New York. Would you have problems with a hook stating it happened in America? This is the same case. I use "Cretaceous" in the article because it is more precise, but "Mesozoic" in the hook because it sounds like it is longer ago, making the hook fact more special-sounding. Ucucha 15:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

If the critter dates back to the Cretaceous, you should just say so, not try to mislead people into thinking it's older by using the more imprecise term "Mesozoic". We are after all trying to inform people here, not confuse them. Gatoclass (talk) 07:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

"Mesozoic" is not wrong. As far as I can see, hooks should draw readers to the article, and they do that best by using terms that make the hook sound as interesting as possible. Note that the Nature article I cite for this fact did the same; Nature evidently did not find the title misleading. Ucucha 13:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay then, cite "Mesozoic" in the article to the Nature ref and this one should be ready to go. Gatoclass (talk) 11:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Added "late in the Mesozoic". Ucucha 12:51, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Image verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 23:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 25

Ancient Egyptian Retainer Sacrifices

... that in Ancient Egypt, a pharaoh's comfort was regarded so highly that their servants would agree to be sacrificed to continue to provide care for them in the afterlife? Created by Aisom3 (talk). Nominated by Calmer Waters (talk) at 04:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Precious Blood Catholic Church (Los Angeles)

... that the Los Angeles Times wrote that a motorist passing the playground at Precious Blood Church (pictured) might think "he'd been transported to a Catholic school in circa-1950s Chicago or Pittsburgh"? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 18:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Precuneus

... that the precuneus, a part of the human brain hidden in between the two cerebral hemispheres, is involved with episodic memory, visuospatial processing, reflections upon self, and consciousness? 5x expanded by LittleHow (talk). Nominated by LittleHow (talk) at 10:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Verified. Ucucha 20:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Siege of Allenstein

... that the defense of Olsztyn against the Teutonic Knights was successfully organized and coordinated by the astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus? Created by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 04:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the defense of Allenstein in 1521 against a siege by the Teutonic Knights was successfully organized by the Catholic cleric and astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus? Article moved to Allenstein etc. by -- Matthead Discuß 08:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Length OK, cites OK, hook OK. Nicely written. I know almost nothing of Polish history but had no trouble understanding this article.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

NPOV not okay as of last version by Radek. Yes, our Polish friends are quite experienced in disseminating their point of view, but sadly, they made no visible efforts to write a neutral article here. After two days of watching the lack of progress, I've started to clean it up myself, first with a change (and move) to Allenstein, as this was the town's name for many centuries until 1945, used even by Copernicus himself in Latin and German writings (no, there are no Polish writings from him, as he was not Polish). The town was only renamed in 1945, when all German (and many Polish) speaking citizens were expelled from Prussia by the Polish communists. On the other hand, in 1521, the town was both defended and attacked by German speaking people, including Niklas Koppernigk aka Nicolaus Copernicus, as it mainly was a local Prussian civil war, not the all out German-Polish war our friends try to portray it in an effort to support Polish claims on the nationality of the astronomer. Turning that old broken record was the very reason to start this article and DYK nom, apparently. BTW: The town belonged to the bishopric of Ermeland which had appointed the Catholic cleric as administrator. He was no soldier. -- Matthead Discuß 08:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

It was a German Teutonic Order vs Poland war, that info is widely sourced, and Kopernik was on the Polish side which says it all. A nicely written, interesting and neutral article, ideal for DYK. Loosmark (talk) 08:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Sigh. Whatever. Matthead wants to refight the Copernicus wars. I don't care. Let it be Allenstein. Not that I agree with this - the idea that it wasn't called Olsztyn until 1945 is patent nonsense as can be easily verified with both primary and secondary sources - but I think wasting time fighting over this is plain silly. BTW, the proper thing to do in such cases is file a Request to Move, rather then unilaterally moving it yourself according to one's own POV.

There's no POV issues in the article. It's got a reliable source cite after pretty much every single sentence.radek (talk) 21:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that the defense of Allenstein (Olsztyn) in 1521 against a siege by the Teutonic Knights was successfully organized by the Catholic cleric and astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus?radek (talk) 21:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Gregory Tarver

... that funeral home owner Gregory Tarver was named "Black Leader of the Year" in Shreveport in 1983, when he was first elected to the Louisiana State Senate? Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Source says he was first elected in 1996, and does not mention Shreveport in connection to the "Black Leader of the Year" title. Ucucha 20:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

State Senator (1984 to date); elected in fall 1983. See notes 1 and 2. Black Leader of the Year was in 1983, when he had yet to become a state official; it is implied that it was in Shreveport and not elsewhere.Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the implication, and how is the enlou.com source credible when it doesn't even get the date of his election into the Senate right? Ucucha 03:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Tzintzuntzan, Michoacán

... that the ex-monastery of San Francisco in Tzintzuntzan, Michoacán, has an image of Christ in a glass coffin whose arms and legs are claimed to be growing? 5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

In English, San Francisco usually means San Francisco, California. I think it should be translated as Saint Francis. But that's a disambiguation page; do you know which Saint Francis? Art LaPella (talk) 06:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Not sure I agree.. the name is ex monastery of San Francisco and we tend not to translate names in English. I could live with ex monastery of San Francisco de Asís.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:35, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

You're right about San Francisco; Google says "San" is 2–3 times more common than "Saint" for describing a Mexican monastery in English. Google also says that monastery is called "San Francisco" about 60 times more often than "San Francisco de Asís". When I first read the hook, I recognized Michoacán as somewhere in Mexico. But the problem is, I think the hook will make most readers wonder if Michoacán is in or near San Francisco, California. Could we simply add "Mexico," (with a comma) after Michoacán? Art LaPella (talk) 06:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

OK ALT1 ... that the ex-monastery of San Francisco in Tzintzuntzan, Mexico, has an image of Christ in a glass coffin whose arms and legs are claimed to be growing?

OK; as always I leave approvals to others. Art LaPella (talk) 03:23, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Winter of 1990–1991 in Western Europe

... that the canals in Venice froze over for the first time since 1885 during the winter of 1990–1991? Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 00:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The source used for this hook states the canals of Venice last froze over in 1985 not 1885 (I've updated the article). I'm not sure how "hooky" a six year interim period is? You might want to bring something else out of the article. For example, finding a reference for the wrong kind of snow and then using:

ALT1: ... that "the wrong kind of snow" delayed British Rail services in the UK during the winter of 1990–1991?

In addition, there are unreferenced paragraphs towards the end of the article. DYK looks for at least a reference per paragraph - please can you revisit? Nick Ottery (talk) 08:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Y Done. All paragraphs now have at least one ref. Unfortunately I misread the Venice date as it is not clear, and agree with the alternative suggestion which is also now referenced. Thanks. TheRetroGuy (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

All good for DYK now. Thanks. Nick Ottery (talk) 09:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

CU project controversy

... that during the CU project controversy "bolt weevils" destroyed 14 transmission towers of a power line under construction in Minnesota? Created by Dj22g (talk). Nominated by Mangoe (talk) at 21:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Skavlan

... that the talkshow Skavlan marked the first time ever that Sveriges Television and the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation worked together on a television production?

ALT1:... that the Norwegian journalist Fredrik Skavlan was awarded with a Kristallen award in the "Best Television Host" category for his work on the Swedish talkshow Skavlan?

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 21:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Retained surgical instruments

... that of the varieties of retained surgical instruments the most common item left in the patient after surgery is a sponge? Created by Jltrew (talk). Nominated by Mangoe (talk) at 21:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, and hook verified while AGF for offline references. Hard to believe there wasn't an article on this already. Will help with refnames to reduced redundent references Calmer Waters 07:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Laura Kirkpatrick

... that Laura Kirkpatrick placed second in the reality show America's Next Top Model in 2009, but was ranked fan favorite in a poll conducted by the show? Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 20:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

There is now an AFD debate going on about this article. Any chance we could hold off on this one until the debate is over? — Hunter Kahn _(c) 22:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Kurt Yaghjian

... that Kurt Yaghjian played Amahl in the first videotaped broadcast of Menotti's Amahl and the Night Visitors in 1963? Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 19:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

List of members of the Council of Keble College, Oxford

... that the members of the Council of Keble College, Oxford had power to move the college away from Oxford? Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Silver Reef, Utah

... that the ghost town of Silver Reef, Utah, had the only silver mines in America that extracted silver from sandstone? Created by User:The Utahraptor (talk). Nominated by Ϣere SpielChequers 16:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Referencing improved. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 17:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Fact for hook is not cited within the article. It appears in the first sentence of the header, but not within the body of the article. Would need inline sourced Calmer Waters 03:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Kirkland Hotel

... that the Kirkland Hotel (pictured) in Kingston, New York, is a rare surviving example of a wood-frame urban hotel? Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

St. Cecilia Catholic Church (Los Angeles)

... that LA's St. Cecilia Church (pictured), built in 1927, adapted to its multiethnic community by installing shrines to a beatified Nigerian priest, a Oaxacan Virgin, and a Guatemalan "Black Christ"? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 14:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

National Archival Services of Norway

... that the oldest complete document in the National Archival Services of Norway (pictured) is from 1189? Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, and hook verified and sourced Calmer Waters 02:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

St. Nicolas' Church, North Stoneham

... that the clock (pictured) on St. Nicolas' Church, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, has only one hand? Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I've got to hand it to you, although it may look like a wind up, I have to face the fact that it all checks out so I can tick this as a pass. I look forward to clocking this on the main page. </poor puns> Bencherlite ^Talk 08:00, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 24

Franco-Hungarian alliance

... that a Franco-Hungarian alliance (pictured) was formed in October 1528 between Francis I of France and Zapolya, king of Hungary? Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 20:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Verified. Ucucha 04:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Norman Olson

... that Norman Olson was kicked out of his own organization, the Michigan Militia, after he suggested the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out by Japan? Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Alternative suggestions would be appreciated. I don't feel that this is too negative, as it's documented fact and something he legitimately believes.

ALT1 ... that after being kicked out of his Michigan Militia, Norman Olson moved to Alaska to attempt to start a militia there? Grsz¹¹ 18:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Article is a little too short at 1479 b. I would prefer to leave out the "kicked out" bit, and keep it to his theories, which are quirky enough on their own:

ALT2:... that Norman Olson claimed that the United States carried out the Tokyo sarin attack and that Japan retaliated with the Oklahoma City bombing?

Ucucha 03:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I've added some, but please check it and let me know what you get because the original number I had was over 1500 using the javascriptkit.com tool. Grsz¹¹ 04:50, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Prose is 1630 bytes, how about the hooks? Hold on, you've got a BLP article with no any basic detail on birth, place, early life, etc, etc. Any chance to have some of those? Materialscientist (talk) 04:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Not likely. I've got a location and atleast an early career (military), but nobody is concerned enough about his past to write about it it seems. Grsz¹¹ 05:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
As for hooks, I'm okay with any of them. Grsz¹¹ 05:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Why not adding what you've got and leave the reader to decide? I would be interested to know at least his age, but other details too, and I'm sure many would like to compare his early and recent life. Materialscientist (talk) 05:27, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I mean those parts are already in: Alanson, Michigan and Air Force/Baptist preacher; and I've just added a birth year. Grsz¹¹ 05:34, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

No reason to hold this nom. Don't know which hook is better. To me, ALT2 sounds somewhat offensive to US-Japan relations. Others are Ok. Materialscientist (talk) 05:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

so what is the consensus on the better of hooks to be used. don't think the term kicked out is very encyclopedic. maybe involunarily dismissed. Are the orginal hook and ALT2 deemed out? Calmer Waters 04:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I also didn't like "kicked out" (and it's a potential BLP concern). I don't really see how ALT2 is "offensive to US-Japan relations", as it is an obviously absurd claim, but we shouldn't use it if there are serious concerns with it. Ucucha 05:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Spoon River College

... that Spoon River College is the only community college in Illinois to offer student housing via a local university? 5x expanded by IlliniGradResearch (talk). Nominated by IlliniGradResearch (talk) at 00:59, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Expansion and date are Ok. Let us on focus on the hook. The article says "While Illinois law typically prevents community colleges from offering student housing SRC became one of the first in the State, and one of only a few dozen in the United States to arrange campus housing for students" Thus I was thinking to make up a hook that SRC offers student housing despite the state prevents that (strong isn't) but see no factual support yet. The refs talk about SRC intentions, and I don't see the fact for "prevents" (ref. 24?) I guess I'm missing something upon quick look and you can help explaining. Materialscientist (talk) 05:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

The notes for the factual support can be found on ref notes 24 and 25. Line 34 is the actual law regarding which buildings are permitted under the Community College act in Illinois, which is sourced from the legislature site for the state of Illinois. The second is the confirmation of this interpretation of the law via the "Forward" article in citation 25. If you look at Para 5 in the article discusses how colleges are directly prevented from building and managing on campus housing.

We could look at a couple of alternatives

Alt1 - ... that in spite of Illinois Law, Spoon River College is able to offer campus housing for its students?

Alt2 - ... that Spoon River College is one of only two community colleges in the State of Illinois to offer campus housing to its students?

Alt3 - ... that Spoon River College is the only community college to get around the Illinois state law prohibiting two-year colleges from offering student housing?

Your thoughts?IlliniGradResearch (talk) 06:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt4 - ... that Spoon River College is one of only a few community colleges to get around the Illinois state law prohibiting two-year colleges from offering student housing?

Alt5 - ... that Spoon River College is one of only three community colleges in the State of Illinois to offer campus housing to its students?IlliniGradResearch (talk) 15:38, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for being .. me. I still do not observe a valid reference for any hook. Refs. 24-26 don't seem to talk about this college and don't say how many offer housing. Materialscientist (talk) 05:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt6 - ... that Spoon River College, an Illinois community college, offers student housing by partnering with a Major University? IlliniGradResearch (talk) 06:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt7 - ... that Spoon River College is an Illinois community college that offers student housing and healthcare in partnership with the Western Illinois University? -- that is in the refs now ~ R.T.G 14:01, 29 Nove~

Looks good, can we get a thumbs up on Atl 7 from anyone?IlliniGradResearch (talk) 17:47, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm OK with the sourcing for that (some refs are online but some are AGF), in the following reworded version:

Alt8 - ... that a partnership with Western Illinois University allows Spoon River College, a community college, to offer student housing and healthcare?

--Orlady (talk) 21:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

That's the best hook on phrasing, although it would be nice if we could incorporate something about that law, which in my view makes it substantially more interesting. Sourcing may make that difficult, though. Besides, we might get to Alt10, which is a feat worth having on its own. Ucucha 21:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Ucucha regarding the law, and think it is an interesting aspect of this entire deal. I cited ref 24, which is the actual section of the Public Community College act which designates which buildings are permitted to be funded. The second is the confirmation of this interpretation of the law via the "Forward" article in citation 25. If you look at Para 5 in the article discusses how colleges are directly prevented from building and managing on campus housing. While the article does not mentioned SRC itself, it further backs up the issue regarding the law preventing student housing for Community Colleges. As mentioned in the article, so far, Illinois Central College and Joliet Junior College have gotten around this by using their foundations to finance and manage the operation. Shawnee Community College and Rend Lake College have done the same thing which can be seen in the articles themselves. However, SRC is unique in that it is the only one I could find in Illinois that has this type of arrangement with a local university. Does anyone have an ALT idea that the current refs could support that includes this aspect. If not, the current Alt 8 is good as well. Your thoughts?IlliniGradResearch (talk) 22:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

What about this:

ALT9: ... that although Illinois law generally prohibits community colleges from offering student housing, Spoon River College is able to do so through a partnership with Western Illinois University?

Ucucha 22:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Great hook for Alt 9 as it can be backed up by current refs (law-24) and partnership - (ref 27-29). Can we get an approval on this hook?IlliniGradResearch (talk) 23:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Workington North railway station

... that a new railway station was built in six days in Workington to enable residents north of the river to access the town centre following floods which split the town in two? Created by Mike1901 (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 21:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Article contradicts hook, saying that it is still being built. Ucucha 14:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Construction started on 24th, opening originally scheduled for 28th, now 30th = still less than a week. This can wait a day or two. Mjroots (talk) 21:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Services due to commence tomorrow, at which point a reliable source should become available confirming construction has been completed. Adambro (talk) 21:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

OK. Please add a note here when there is such a source, so that this hook can be confirmed and go on to the Main Page. Thanks for the clarification. Ucucha 21:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

The completion of the building work and opening of the station has been confirmed now by reliable sources and the article updated appropriately. I would support the above hook rather than the alternative below. Adambro (talk) 09:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I've tweaked the hook to state "built in six days", which is referenced in the article. Mjroots (talk) 09:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt 1

... that Workington North railway station is made entirely of scaffolding and wooden planks?

I just thought i would suggest this alternative.

Workington North railway station – Mike1901 (give) (tag)
Nom credit: Simply south (give)22:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Why is Simply South trying to claim the credit for an article that I nominated? Mjroots (talk) 07:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how he is. Adambro (talk) 09:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The nom credit above! Mjroots (talk) 09:15, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure he's just suggesting an alternative and attributing himself as the author of that. Nothing more. Adambro (talk) 09:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Bessie Moses

... that U.S. birth control advocate Dr. Bessie Moses gave up her practice as an obstetrician because she became emotionally attached to the outcome of every birth she attended? Created by Essmums (talk), Warrah (talk). Nominated by Warrah (talk) at 16:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. Ucucha 14:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Son and Stranger

... that in Mendelssohn’s operetta Son and Stranger, the mayor's part comprises only a few bars, all on the same note, because its creator, the composer’s brother-in-law Wilhelm Hensel, had no ability as a singer? Created by Drhoehl (talk). Nominated by Drhoehl (talk)

Looks good except that the hook could be tightened up a bit. Mangoe (talk) 14:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

209 character hook. Little Mountain 5 ^{Happy Thanksgiving!} 19:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I guess the Word character counter doesn't work. How about this: ... that in Mendelssohn’s operetta Son and Stranger one part comprises only a few bars, all on the note F, because its creator, the composer’s brother-in-law Wilhelm Hensel, had no ability as a singer? Drhoehl (talk) 05:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC).

Yes, 197 characters is short enough (although I always leave approvals to others). I also use Word which said 209 for the original hook, so feel free to ask me more detailed questions about hook length after studying Q1. Art LaPella (talk) 06:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

My version of Word (a very old one) told me that the first hook was well under 200; I'm guessing that it didn't count the spaces. You were right, of course: when I went back and counted by hand, it was indeed 209. Thanks for catching the problem and the further review of the revised hook.Drhoehl (talk) 01:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Length, date, source, and hook (ALT1) all check out. Little Mountain 5 02:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Jakub Wujek Bible

... that the Jakub Wujek Bible served as the main Catholic Polish language Bible translation for three and half centuries? 5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 03:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

2131/562 = 3.8x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 16:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Why Won't My Parakeet Eat My Diarrhea

... that on November 11, 2009, the number-one searched term on Google Trends was Why Won't My Parakeet Eat My Diarrhea? Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 02:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Silly, I know, but that's exactly what makes it the best kind of hook; it's going to catch people's eyes right away! Stonemason89 (talk) 02:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Article has an unresolved notability tag. Also, the fact of the hook appears to be uncited. Ucucha 14:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Abdul Hamid Adiamoh

... that Nigerian journalist Abdul Hamid Adiamoh was arrested for publishing an article on children skipping school and picking scrap metal?

Comment: This article was created by Gbola Adiamoh (talk · contribs), later deleted as a {{G11}}, and restored by myself. I used a part of original content.

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Nominated by Vejvančický (talk) at 18:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Several uncited paragraphs, each of which needs to have sources attached to it. Also, the hook is kind of misleading in that he was actually arrested in Gambia, not Nigeria. Ucucha 14:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

The Legarde Twins

... that The Legarde Twins are a country act from Australia consisting of two twins, Tom and Ted, who left home in 1945 to become cowboys and are still performing—64 years later? Created by Drmies (talk) and Reconsider the static (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 06:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Under 1500 b after I copyedited it; please expand a little more. Ucucha 14:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Ventura Oil Field

... that while the Ventura Oil Field is the seventh largest oil field in California, it was at one point the 12th most productive oil field in the United States? Created by Antandrus (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 17:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

All set. Ucucha 14:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 23

St. Bendt's Church

... that St. Bendt's Church (pictured) in Ringsted, Denmark, where Danish kings and queens of the 12th to 14th centuries were buried, is the oldest brick church in Scandinavia?

Comment: Have asked the author for more footnotes. --PFHLai (talk) 09:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Created by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 09:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

John W. Reynolds (Oregon attorney)

... that John W. Reynolds (pictured) was admitted to practice law in Oregon even before he graduated from law school?

Comment: Passed bar in 1897, graduated from law school in 1899

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 10:04, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Meets requirements. It would be good if you could find out when he died, though. Ucucha 13:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Naihe

... that Hawaiians named a tsunami after 18th century surfer and statesman Naihe? Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 21:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

All set. Ucucha 13:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Antioch Dunes Evening Primrose

... that the Antioch Dunes Evening Primrose (pictured) grows only in the Antioch Dunes National Wildlife Refuge, the first wildlife refuge in the U.S. formed to protect endangered plant and insect species? Created by Mattisse (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Not the first in the world, as the hook suggests--the source only says it's the first in the country. No other problems. Ucucha 13:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Memorial Park Site

... that Memorial Park Site in Lock Haven, Pennsylvania, contains prehistoric cultural deposits up to 8,000 years old? Created by Finetooth (talk). Self nom at 22:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure you are interpreting the U.S. army source correctly? I haven't read the whole thing, but to me it reads like it is the geological finds that span more than 8000 years, not the cultural remains. Ucucha 13:26, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure. The site is geological in the sense that these cultural remains are buried in alluvial deposits at various depths. One of the sentences on page 1-1 of the source document says, "Every major prehistoric period from the Middle Archaic to the Late Woodland/Clemson Island is represented in sealed, stratigraphic context." Terms like Middle Archaic refer to the cultural deposits rather than the stream gravels in which they are buried. Finetooth (talk) 21:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. However, I do think we need some more detailed references for the time period in that case, because there doesn't seem to be any reference that says that the Middle Archaic equals 6500 BCE. Ucucha 22:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Fisher Morgan

... that opera singer Fisher Morgan, a former principal soloist with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, ended his career in pantomime? Created by Jack1956 (talk), Ssilvers (talk), Tim riley (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 16:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt: ... that opera singer Fisher Morgan, a former principal soloist with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, died suddenly, aged 50, on his way home from a performance? (Either hook is fine with me, just offering an alt). -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

for both. Ucucha 13:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Dương Nhật Lễ

... that despite being only a son of a couple of Hát tuồng actors, Dương Nhật Lễ was enthroned as emperor of Đại Việt by his impotent predecessor Trần Dụ Tông? Created by Grenouille vert (talk). Self nom at 12:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Revised the hook to make it a little shorter ("impotent" and "has no child" are redundant). Verified in good faith.

Hillside Cemetery (Middletown, New York)

... that among the dead interred at the Calvert Vaux-designed Hillside Cemetery (pictured) in Middletown, New York, are three Civil War Medal of Honor recipients? 5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 06:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

(couldn't open ref 1). Ucucha 13:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Dan Kyle

... that former Louisiana Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle has joined a new company trying to rebuild Six Flags New Orleans, which has been closed since Hurricane Katrina? Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

You need a citation for the quote at the end of the article. Otherwise, no problems here. Ucucha 13:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
- Resolved now. Ucucha 22:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Vanessa Lytton

... that Holby City hospital's disabled CEO Vanessa Lytton is played by Leslie Ash, whose own disability resulted from a hospital stay? Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 23:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

CFM International CFM56

... that the development of the CFM International CFM56 turbofan engine (pictured) required the involvement of French President Georges Pompidou and U.S. President Richard Nixon? 5x expanded by SidewinderX (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

you need to add 16394 characters to meet the 5fold requirement. 38280 - 21886= 16394.--Caspian blue 05:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Aside from the physical expansion, almost everything that was in the article before was rewritten and cited. The original article had nothing was cited and merely copy and pasted from the company's website. For all intents and purposes, this is a new article. -SidewinderX (talk) 13:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

If that is the case I guess that claiming copy-vio could be an option (per additional rule A4). Manxruler (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I feel for you SidewinderX as I run into this situation myself. I rewrite an article that is complete crap (and worse in your case, a copyright violation) but ineligible for DYK due to the 5x rule. In many cases the work done is far longer than the 1500 needed for a completely new article that DOES qualify. Perhaps we need another different gold star prize for those of us who turn lead into gold?Thelmadatter (talk) 18:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Or, if this really is a case of copyright violation, this might still qualify per Additional rule A4... Manxruler (talk) 18:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

No. I have compared the texts before and after expansion and find that it is an expansion, not a rewriting from scratch (BTW, the latter is a usual DYK experience with 5x expansions - no complaints). Most parts and sentences of the old article are still there. The article is much better and is well referenced now - no doubt, but until it is expanded close to 5x, it should not pass. Materialscientist (talk) 11:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Battle of La Paz

... that during the Battle of La Paz in the Mexican-American War, only one American soldier was killed? Created by Az81964444 (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 03:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

No in-text citations. Shouldnt the hook at least have that?Thelmadatter (talk) 03:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment: The hook and one per paragraph, plz. @Kate (talk) 07:25, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 21

Honor Rolls of Baseball

... that the Honor Rolls of Baseball, established in 1946 to recognize the contributions of non-playing baseball personnel, lasted just the one year? Created by Neonblak (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Much of the article was plagiarized; I deleted that text. Ucucha 19:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
After deletion, the article shortened to 827 bytes of prose. It may be reconsidered if brought to at least 1500 without copyright violations. For future reference, please pay attention to rephrasing of the material used. Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 20

Moral agency in Judaism

... that in the Jewish moral agency a deaf-mute could even commit murder with impunity, as Jewish law forbids legal cases without verbal communication between the involved parties? Created by Newman Luke (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 00:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Date and sourcing are good; can't verify the hook because the Jewish Encyclopedia site won't load. Significant portions of this article are apparently directly from a non-Wikipedia source (the JE), which is discouraged by rule M4. This article seems to be broader in scope than just "moral agency"; the parts about business and marriage don't have much to do with it. Ucucha 16:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Are you suggesting to merge this article into "moral agency"?--Canniba loki 18:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I think it's about agency in general, not just moral agency. Perhaps "agency in Judaism" would be a more fitting title, but that's for people who know more of it than I do to consider. Ucucha 18:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm thinking we should handball this one to one of the Jewish wikiprojects to get someone to check it over to make sure it's reasonably accurate. The text all seems to be from either an old edition of the JE or from various primary sources, so we need to be sure there's nothing controversial in there. Gatoclass (talk) 00:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for weighing in. Ucucha 00:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

AkelPad

... that the text editor program AkelPad is said to be able to "replace standard Notepad", having many features that Notepad lacks? Created by Bclssurveyor (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 19:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

There are several problems: many paragraphs are entirely uncited; the direct quote in the hook is not in the article; and the neutrality of the article is questionable ("advantages" over Notepad); sourcing from Google Translate is rather dubious. Ucucha 00:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles for December 11 (and following days) – Hanukkah

A Rugrats Chanukah

... that the Rugrats episode "A Rugrats Chanukah" was pitched to the series crew by Nickelodeon in 1992? Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Lengths and hook facts OK (AGF on offline sources; citations are to RS sources). It's an interesting article. I wonder if the hook could be made more interesting by revising it to say "... that although the Rugrats episode "A Rugrats Chanukah" was pitched to the series crew by Nickelodeon in 1992, it was not produced until 1996?" --Orlady (talk) 03:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

That one does sound better. Consider that my ALT1. The Flash ^{talk} 02:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Uninvolved tick for Orlady's Alt hook, it is an improvement on the original and the facts check out. Maedin\^talk 12:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for December 25 – Christmas Day

Peace Candle

... that former heavyweight boxing champion Larry Holmes expects this year to light the Peace Candle (pictured), a candle-like structure erected every Christmas season in Easton, Pennsylvania?

Comment: I've never done a DYK for a special occasion date, so sorry if I've handled it wrong at all. Please note, Holmes is supposed to flip the switch on November 27, so I figure after that time I can change it to past tense. Does that work? If not, I can come up with an alt, but I'll be gone for the next three or four days for the holiday, so I can handle it when I get back...

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:45, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Length, date, sources, image, and hook all check out. Changing to past tense tomorrow sounds good to me. Little Mountain 5 ^{Happy Thanksgiving!} 18:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation

... that the swing group Big Bad Voodoo Daddy (pictured) performed music for the Phineas and Ferb special "Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation"?

Comment: Seeing that Jerk de Soleil thing on DYK this morning, and the fact that we finally have a future episode of this show with actual press coverage beforehand, is a great opportunity. It was either this, or saying that they think its going to be a holiday classic.

Created by ViperSnake151 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Date, length, hook verified. I'm saving this one for December 25 (Christmas Day) hooks. MuZemike 18:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

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-:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] for the ''Gesta''. A double DYK would be nice, but Martin I is currently at only 807 b. If you incorporate the text of the first footnote into the article it would probably already nearly be there, though. [[User talk:Ucucha|Ucucha]] 14:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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