User talk:Trident13/archive2009

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Current revision as of 18:33, 30 June 2009

Contents 1 Proposed deletion of Kando 2 Spammy articles 3 DYK for Jim McColl 4 Bugatti Type 57S Atalante number 57502 5 external links question 6 Reversion 7 Article Qamishli 8 Steve Morgan 'Family' Entry 9 Thanks

[edit] Proposed deletion of Kando

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[edit] Spammy articles

What's the point of articles like this one? I noticed there are some others on your stubs page that are spammy in tone as well. Usually similar articles are CSD tagged but since you regularly edit I thought to ask you first. -- Mentisock 17:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The whole point of personal stubs - it is NOT an article until published - is to collect various pieces of data together for editing, to create a new article of the required depth and conformity to wikipedia standards. During that construction phase, as a personal stub, you can't delete it because it is not published - and at some stages during construction it might look "spammy." Rgds, - Trident13 (talk) 17:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually APNC is a pretty long article and seems complete (from PR's perspective) so I didn't think it was a stub. Still, there's no need to sound spammy when building articles and usually user pages that advertise are still deleted like articles in mainspace otherwise companies can use the loophole to spam. -- Mentisock 18:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It's easier to remove the cat's than anything else! I find stubs useful for collecting data on subjects which may/not pass WP:NOTAB, but are not of a standard for main space - something I find may make it clearer of their notability. Have not yet seen in my nearly three years here one of my stubs used as a spam point - although I can see the opportunity. I think its more likely from experience that companies create spammy articles in the main space, or more likely add to good basic and factual articles with whole detailed lists of products. Look after yourself! Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 18:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

What's 'cat's'? In all reality though, the APNC article seems more like a copy-and-paste (in which case it could also qualify as a copyvio, but the URL is down). And surely you're talking about 'stubs' loosely here - most of the articles are years old as well so it's not like they're being actively 'worked' on. Can we try an MfD at least to see what other people think? -- Mentisock 09:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I honestly don't know what your point is! First you are suggesting its fit for production, now its suitable for deletion??? Personal stub pages are personal sandboxes - places for creating. If your issue is that I have not progressed the pages as quickly as you desire, then please note they are my stub pages/my sandbox - I am still not sure if there is an article in that subject, and if so don't believe they are of the required quality. Can I strongly suggest you read Wikipedia:User_page and specifically the section on how you can use such pages. If your point is that it can't make an article, then why not say that in the first place? I am happy to do that, but you seem at present to speak with little purpose and wholly in rhymes. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 11:29, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I just said it looked 'complete' from a company's point of view. The main issue is that they really look like a copy/paste from a company's website which includes all the spammy talk. You don't usually start stubs with material that sounds like it's promoting the company. It's this: "user pages that go beyond [...] into advertising may be tagged for speedy deletion" and "the only exceptions are that test edits and the re-creation of deleted material (within limits - which, by implication, don't include spam) are permitted in user space" may be relevant in this context. Userspace is not as strict as mainspace and could include subjects that aren't notable and other experiments but spam/advertising-sounding material usually isn't allowed. -- Mentisock 16:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] DYK for Jim McColl

On January 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jim McColl, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 16:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

1. REDIRECT [[== Richard Hollins Murray ==

Re - the above - great beginnings of a wikipedia page on a fascinating man. Did you know he also wrote his own book of poems called 'Random thoughts in verse'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilblueser (talk • contribs) 23:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC) ]]

[edit] Bugatti Type 57S Atalante number 57502

I'm going (today sometime) bring this article up for consideration at the AfD (Articles for Deletion) page with the suggested outcome of "merge" with the Bugatti Type 57 artlcle. User:MickMacNee is incorrect to close the discussion of this, therefore I will elevate it to serious discussion. Proxy User (talk) 15:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Dear Trident

As Carol Kirkwood's agent - it is my responsibility to maintain an accurate page for my client. If such information is to be disseminated it should, I'm sure you agree, be accurate. Given that this page originally got the background and age of my artist wrong - and because media outlets seem to take the information enclosed in this inaccurate site as gospel - you can understand the need for me to monitor this carefully. The only information I have added or removed is purely for the sake of accuracy. Perhaps you should turn your attention to the libellous comments that I have just removed instead of worrying about those people who are trying to ensure the accuracy of this information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonteepierre (talk • contribs) 06:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] external links question

Dear Trident Re: your deletion of external link from Tourism in Wales page. I was wondering why you had removed the links to Welsh rarebits and great little places, if this is because of advertising then you also need to remove the visit wales link. I have read the Wp:ext doc and cant see why you have removed these links, cheers Sarah —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sassyj007 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion

I never edited a page on Carlos Slim Heiu. I don't even know who that is. Please take more care next time before making accusations of someone of defacing Wikipedia.

Thank you in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.7.74.240 (talk) 07:16, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Article Qamishli

Assyrian (Assyria) just relegins (Christian) it’s not nation

We know as a Muslim Arab people there are no nation called Assyrian it’s false name, we know there are few hundred Christians living in Qamishli ,and they came from Greece and Turkey as asylums and Syrian government give hem full right in Syria ,and most of them they went to Europe and America, Canada .we never heared about Assyrian in Qamishli ,maybe a few people left in Qamishli not more than 200 people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.109.84.9 (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Morgan 'Family' Entry

Dear Trident 13

I have recently noticed the editing you have undertaken to the entry in my name. The entire background entitled 'Family' is factually incorrect on the following grounds:

1. I do not have three children from my first marriage. 2. My first wife and I were divorced in 2000 - I did not divorce her. 3. The £100m divorce settlement is total press speculation and none of the figures in the press are true. The settlement between me and my ex-wife is a private matter. We have never commented on its contents and never will. The figures bandied about in the press are total speculation and therefore this reference is wholly inaccurate. 4. The amount raised from my Redrow share sale in 2000 was substantially below the £198m quoted. 5. I had been living in Jersey since 1996. 6. I have been living in Cheshire since 2005 - four years before my 'greater involvement with Redrow.'

In view of the above inaccuracies I have removed the family section. If you must refer to family at all please adopt the previous accurate wording, which reflects the true circumstances. (I have already made this edit and trust you will respect it).

Regards

Steve MorganSpmorgan (talk) 15:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Many thanks for taking my comments on board. Thanks too for your good wishes re Wolves. Regards SteveSpmorgan (talk) 15:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)