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* I'm not sure what 'relisted' means exactly. Is this article still proposed for deletion? If so, I believe I have addressed all the points in the original complaint. I have added a significant number of primary sources from different sources. There are now 29 references from more than 15 different sources. I believe this article is properly sourced. Are there any other problems with this article? If not, can we remove the AfD suggestion? [[User:Ebelular|Ebelular]] ([[User talk:Ebelular|talk]]) 17:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
* I'm not sure what 'relisted' means exactly. Is this article still proposed for deletion? If so, I believe I have addressed all the points in the original complaint. I have added a significant number of primary sources from different sources. There are now 29 references from more than 15 different sources. I believe this article is properly sourced. Are there any other problems with this article? If not, can we remove the AfD suggestion? [[User:Ebelular|Ebelular]] ([[User talk:Ebelular|talk]]) 17:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
*:I researched all of the references, and per [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_9#Mailing_Lists_Question]], mailing lists aren't [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Neither are [[WP:SPS|forums, open wikis, blogs, newsletters, or personal websites]]. I don't believe blackletter.ie is a reliable source, and neither are "club" websites, such as the Irish Robotics Club. The Science Gallery does not appear to be a reliable source. Hackerspaces is an open wiki, so that does not qualify either. Artifactory is a hackerspace site, so it's not independent of the subject. Same with 091Labs. DigitalHub is a blog, so again not reliable. I am unsure about the [[Irish Times]], but being a newspaper I will [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] that it is reliable. Given what's left after my research (mostly self-references), there is not enough to establish the notability of this article. [[User:ArcAngel|<span style='color: #ffb612;background-color: #1e1e1e;'><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;ArcAngel&nbsp;&nbsp;</b>]] [[User talk:ArcAngel|(talk)]] </span>) 18:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
*:I researched all of the references, and per [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_9#Mailing_Lists_Question]], mailing lists aren't [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Neither are [[WP:SPS|forums, open wikis, blogs, newsletters, or personal websites]]. I don't believe blackletter.ie is a reliable source, and neither are "club" websites, such as the Irish Robotics Club. The Science Gallery does not appear to be a reliable source. Hackerspaces is an open wiki, so that does not qualify either. Artifactory is a hackerspace site, so it's not independent of the subject. Same with 091Labs. DigitalHub is a blog, so again not reliable. I am unsure about the [[Irish Times]], but being a newspaper I will [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] that it is reliable. Given what's left after my research (mostly self-references), there is not enough to establish the notability of this article. [[User:ArcAngel|<span style='color: #ffb612;background-color: #1e1e1e;'><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;ArcAngel&nbsp;&nbsp;</b>]] [[User talk:ArcAngel|(talk)]] </span>) 18:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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*::The Digital Hub is a technology incubator complex in Dublin, Ireland, managed by the Irish Government. (cf. http://www.thedigitalhub.com/ and http://thedigitalhubexhibit.com/aboutus ). They are more than a blog. [[Irish Times]] has been around for 100+ years and is the second most popular newspaper in Ireland with 100,000+ daily circulations (cf. http://www.nni.ie/v2/broad/portal.php?content=../_includes/circulation.php ). The Science Gallery is a public science themed exhibition space, and is part of [[Trinity College Dublin]], one of the largest universitys in Ireland, is more than 400 years old, and is ranked 43rd best university in the world in 2009 according to the Times Higher Education rankings. ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THE%E2%80%93QS_World_University_Rankings,_2009]]).

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This is another article with primary sourcing issues. Of the nine sources listed, seven are of the articles own website, one is a forum, and the first one is behind a paywall, so WP:V is an issue as well.

I could not find any significant third-party coverage of this space using a Google search and weeding out the usual, unreliable sources.

The article doesn't qualify for speedy deletion as it is a building.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 08:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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I have updated the article to point to more sources. This should resolve the 'AfD' issue in favour of 'keep', yes? Ebelular (talk) 14:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure what 'relisted' means exactly. Is this article still proposed for deletion? If so, I believe I have addressed all the points in the original complaint. I have added a significant number of primary sources from different sources. There are now 29 references from more than 15 different sources. I believe this article is properly sourced. Are there any other problems with this article? If not, can we remove the AfD suggestion? Ebelular (talk) 17:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    I researched all of the references, and per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_9#Mailing_Lists_Question, mailing lists aren't reliable sources. Neither are forums, open wikis, blogs, newsletters, or personal websites. I don't believe blackletter.ie is a reliable source, and neither are "club" websites, such as the Irish Robotics Club. The Science Gallery does not appear to be a reliable source. Hackerspaces is an open wiki, so that does not qualify either. Artifactory is a hackerspace site, so it's not independent of the subject. Same with 091Labs. DigitalHub is a blog, so again not reliable. I am unsure about the Irish Times, but being a newspaper I will assume good faith that it is reliable. Given what's left after my research (mostly self-references), there is not enough to establish the notability of this article.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 18:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    The Digital Hub is a technology incubator complex in Dublin, Ireland, managed by the Irish Government. (cf. http://www.thedigitalhub.com/ and http://thedigitalhubexhibit.com/aboutus ). They are more than a blog. Irish Times has been around for 100+ years and is the second most popular newspaper in Ireland with 100,000+ daily circulations (cf. http://www.nni.ie/v2/broad/portal.php?content=../_includes/circulation.php ). The Science Gallery is a public science themed exhibition space, and is part of Trinity College Dublin, one of the largest universitys in Ireland, is more than 400 years old, and is ranked 43rd best university in the world in 2009 according to the Times Higher Education rankings. ([[1]]).