Arnie Herber

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Arnie Herber
No. 38
Quarterback
Personal information
Date of birth: (1910-04-02)April 2, 1910
Place of birth: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Date of death: October 14, 1969(1969-10-14) (aged 59)
Career information
College: Regis University
Debuted in 1930 for the Green Bay Packers
Last played in 1945 for the New York Giants
Career history
Career highlights and awards
Career NFL statistics
TD-INT 81-106
Passing Yards 8,041
Completion % 40.9
Passer Rating 50.1
Stats at NFL.com
Pro Football Hall of Fame

Arnold "Arnie" Charles Herber (April 2, 1910 – October 14, 1969) was a professional quarterback in the National Football League for the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants. He was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966. He attended the University of Wisconsin–Madison for one year before transferring to Regis College.

Before the NFL[edit]

Herber was born in Green Bay, Wis. and was a Packers fan from a young age, all while starring at local Green Bay West High School in football and basketball.[citation needed] After attending college for a few years to no notoriety, Herber came back to Green Bay and worked in the club house as a handyman. Coach Curly Lambeau gave Herber a try-out and Herber joined a team that was currently dominating the NFL.[1]

Green Bay Packers career[edit]

Green Bay had posted an undefeated 12-0-1 record and won the NFL title the year before Herber was on the roster. In his first year, 1930, the Packers continued their success and won another title with Herber playing tailback in the famous Notre Dame Box formation. In 1931, with Herber throwing more than usual for that era to early greats like John "Blood" McNally, the Packers reeled off nine straight wins to start the season and held on to win a third straight title. No other team in NFL history, besides the Packers themselves in the 1960s, has won three consecutive titles.

The NFL didn't start keeping statistics until 1932—when they did that year, Herber finished as the top passer in the league with 639 yards and nine touchdowns. He won the passing title again in 1933 with 799 yards and eight touchdowns. But Herber reached his peak as a pro starting in 1935 with the arrival of Don Hutson. Hutson, the league's first true wide receiver, changed the game with his graceful moves, precise patterns, and superb hands. Herber, who loved to throw the ball long, was a perfect fit for Hutson's talent. Hutson's first NFL reception was an 83-yard touchdown pass from Herber on the first play of the game when the Packers beat the Chicago Bears, 7-0. In 1936, Herber and Hutson rewrote (temporarily) the NFL passing-receiving record book. Herber tossed a record 177 passes for a record 1239 yards, and 11 touchdowns. Hutson set new records with 34 catches, 526 yards receiving, and eight touchdowns, all marks he would soon improve. Green Bay finished 10-1-1 and went to the NFL title game, which they won 21-6 over the Boston Redskins. In that game, Green Bay passed for 153 yards and Herber threw two touchdowns, one to Hutson.

Sharing time with another great passer, Cecil Isbell, Herber led the Packers to the title game again in 1938 and 1939. In the 1938 championship, Green Bay lost to the New York Giants 23-17 despite another touchdown pass from Herber. In 1939, Green Bay avenged that loss with a 27-0 drubbing of the Giants. Herber threw for another touchdown in the 1939 title game. In 1940, Isbell began to get more playing time than Arnie, so Herber retired after 11 seasons with Green Bay.

New York Giants career[edit]

Herber came back to the draft-depleted NFL in 1944, answering a call to play for the New York Giants. Herber threw sparingly but efficiently, for 651 yards and six touchdowns. As usual for Herber-led teams, the Giants won their conference and went to the title game. Herber's old squad, the Packers, still featuring Don Hutson, beat the Giants 14-7. Herber played one more forgettable season with the Giants and then retired for good.

Professional statistics[edit]

  Passing Rushing Fumbles
Year Team G S Comp Att Pct Yds YPA Td Int Rate Att Yds Avg Td Fum Lost
1930 GNB 10 - - - - - - 3 - - - - - - - 1
1931 GNB 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - 1
1932 GNB 14 - 37 101 36.6 639 6.33 9 9 51.5 64 149 2.3 1 0 2
1933 GNB 11 - 50 124 40.3 656 5.29 3 12 26.2 62 77 1.2 0 0 0
1934 GNB 11 - 42 115 36.5 799 6.95 8 12 45.1 37 33 0.9 0 0 0
1935 GNB 11 - 48 109 36.7 729 6.69 8 14 45.4 19 0 0.0 0 0 0
1936 GNB 12 - 77 173 44.5 1,239 7.16 11 13 58.9 20 -32 -1.6 0 0 0
1937 GNB 9 - 47 104 45.2 684 6.58 7 10 50.0 5 9 1.8 0 0 0
1938 GNB 8 - 22 55 40.0 336 6.11 3 4 48.8 6 -1 -0.2 0 0 2
1939 GNB 10 - 57 139 41.0 1,107 7.96 8 9 61.6 18 -11 -0.6 0 0 1
1940 GNB 10 - 38 89 42.7 560 6.29 6 7 53.6 6 -23 -3.8 0 0 0
1944 NYG 10 - 36 86 41.9 651 7.57 6 8 53.0 7 -58 -8.3 0 0 0
1945 NYG 10 - 35 80 43.8 641 8.01 9 8 69.8 6 -27 -4.5 0 3 0
Totals 129 - 481 1175 40.9 8,041 6.84 81 106 50.1 250 116 .5 2 3 7
Source: [1]

Legacy[edit]

Overall, Herber passed for 8,041 yards, 81 touchdowns, and 106 interceptions. He led his teams to four NFL championships. At the time Herber retired for the first time in 1940, he had equaled Benny Friedman for the all-time lead in touchdown passes with 66. He added to his total later when he came out of retirement for a two year stint with the New York Giants.

He was elected to the Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame in 1967.

Herber was the first great long thrower in the NFL and his success paved the way for truly "modern" quarterbacks Sammy Baugh and Sid Luckman. Herber was said to hold the ball with his thumb on the laces, a peculiarity shared by Sammy Baugh. It was his work with Don Hutson, however, that made him a legend and assured his place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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