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So essentially anti-communists are best categorized as Cuban terrorists, Fascists, Nazis, Neo-Nazis, Neoconservatives, and SS personnel with only the Pope and maybe Russian counter-revolutionaries being arguably "good guy" anti-communists?--T. Anthony 08:22, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm moving that lot out. People should only be here if they specifically and personally opposed communism. Mere association with an ideology/movement that tended to be hostile to communism is insufficient to label someone as an "anti-communist". The people who added those categories seem to be unaware of the concept of allies of convenience. Piccadilly 12:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This a joke. You can be anit-communist and not be facist. Remove facists. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.72.123.222 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 12 Dec 2006 (UTC)

This is an absurd category. Surely anyone who's not communist is anti-communist unless they're a fellow traveller or a useful idiot? Is Orwell really an anti-Communist? He's an anti-Stalinist, but is that the same thing? By that reckoning, Trotsky would be an anti-Communist. Really, I have no idea what this category seeks to achieve. Hornplease 11:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally I think this means people who were outspoken in their opposition to Communism or fought against Communism. Most people have only slight interest in Communism and may never do anything notable about it.--T. Anthony 09:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. But how, then is Orwell in this category? As I said, is opposition to Stalinism enough?Hornplease 11:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not justifying every individual in it and some names should probably be removed. However Orwell became active against Communist influences as he saw them. There is a Socialist form of Anti-Communism and even if he wasn't entirely that either he is important as an influence in Anti-Communist activity/thought. Still I'm agnostic on the issue, if you want to remove Orwell feel free.--T. Anthony 00:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this?[edit]

Hi there. Does this category actually mean anything, given that it includes George H. W. Bush, Jimmy Carter, Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, Joseph McCarthy, Pope John Paul II, Ayn Rand and Lech Wałęsa?! Is an anti-communist somebody who opposes the ideology, or somebody who opposes a regime calling itself communist? I would nominate this category for deletion on the grounds of Overcategorization as it groups people by their opinions, but I realize there are dozens of subcategories and I'm not sure how to go about things... Any thoughts anybody? Davidelit 06:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These categories are based on political orientation and action. Just as there are communists categories, so there are anti-communists categories. Same difference. Hmains 03:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not the same. That someone is a communist is fairly straight forward and is fine as a category - no problems there. But that someone is not a communist or that they don't like communism does not mean that they are "an anti-communist". I would suggest a more accurate description for the people above would be "non-communist", but this would make an equally lousy category. --Merbabu 09:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd definitely support deletion of this and the sub-categories. We shouldn't be categorizing people based on what they are not.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 01:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. Say I'm a Marxist and I'm against Stalin's or Pol Pot's regimes. Does that make me an anti-communist? No way! I AM a communist! If I had an article in Wikipedia, I'd be on the communist AND anti-communist categories, then? Would Leon Trotsky be an anti-communist?! This category doesn't make sense. --Agusk7 (talk) 21:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2024 deletion[edit]

Problems mentioned in this paragraph are still actual in 2024. There are many fighters against communist regimes troughout history, who strictly refuse anti-communism. Anti-communism is distinct ideology, not just someone who disagrees with communism. I propose deletion of this categorization. --ThecentreCZ (talk) 17:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]