Category talk:Non-fiction
 | This category was nominated for renaming on 24 January 2023. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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| This category was nominated for deletion on 7 May 2006. The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. |
--JLaTondre 23:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Category:Non-fiction books and its sub-cats[edit]
Category:Canadian non-fiction books
Category:Non-fictional British literature
Category:Non-fictional French literature
Category:Non-fictional Greek literature
Category:Non-fictional Irish literature
Category:Non-fictional Portuguese literature
Category:Non-fictional Spanish literature
Category:Non-fictional Swedish literature
This proposal is twofold.
- Some of the sub-cats of Category:Non-fiction books use non-fictional [country] literature and some use non-fictional [country] books. (And then there's Canada.) Literature would be more inclusive (i.e. encompassing short fiction, essays, etc.), while to me books means, well, books only. I propose the cats be
re-namedreorganized accordingly, i.e. Category:Non-fiction books would berenamed toa sub-cat of Category:Non-fiction literature.
- There's been some discussion over the use of "non-fiction" vs "non-fictional". Can we get a consensus on a decent naming convention? Maybe: Category:Non-fictional British literature→Category:British non-fiction literature
See also:
Respectfully submitted, ♥ Her Pegship♥ 22:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - see what you mean by "whole new can of worms". There are number of different issues here. (I do dislike combined discussions! difficult to unravel!). Firstly the natural, logical heirarchy would be xxxx literature with sub cats of xxxx books, xxxx magazines, xxxx comics, xxxx pamphlets, xxxx newspapers, xxxx booklets, xxxx manuals, etc. (although you might argue some of those). The next has more to do with content than form. So also below, xxxx literature we can have xxxx novels, xxxx novellas, xxxx plays, xxxx poetry, xxxx short stories, xxxx essay, etc.
Secondly, "fictional xxxx" should in my view never be used it is far too ambiguous. Similarly "non-fictional xxxx" should never be used as it is just cumbersome and an almost unused English construction. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC) So my vote below is:
- Oppose - rename of Category:Non-fiction books to Category:Non-fiction literature, Logically Category:Non-fiction books should be a subcategory of Category:Non-fiction literature. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support - almost anything that gets us away from the current use of "Fictional". Current suggestions I would support are the terms "Imaginary" or "Fictitious". Neither of which should be seen anywhere near the clause "Non-". :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- You're absolutely right. I have revised the proposal accordingly. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 14:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Opposed speedy move request[edit]
- Category:Non-fiction to Category:Nonfiction – C2D. Οἶδα (talk) 05:51, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as not uncontroversial. Even though the article move was back in 2019, it was done boldly without discussion. As there was consensus for the current name at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_3#Category:Nonfiction, a full discussion would be needed. – Fayenatic London 07:01, 10 May 2021 (UTC)