Help talk:Interlanguage links

Anyone want to interwiki talk pages?

I do! Rich Farmbrough, 08:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC).

I would support linking actual talk pages automatically to the same languages, to which the main article links.

Discussion pages, such as WP:AFD are already sometimes linked to other languages, but not very systematically. I'm trying - very slowly - to improve this using the tools described at WP:WPIW/HE. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Redlinks

Resolved

There are an awful lot of redlinks in this help page. Is that intentional? --Redrose64 (talk) 18:36, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

resolved - they're blue now. Assume some kind of server malfunction in Miami, Fla. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Particular tasks for languages

For a few languages there are pages, which try to list problems with interlanguage links to en.wp. They are mostly outdated and not updated systematically, but probably should be kept. If anything, i shall try to update them one day according to the procedure described at WP:WPIW/HE. In the meantime the links to them can be removed from the main page. Here's the section:

For a few other Wikipedia languages, there are lists of pages where links may be needed. For example, the English article may have a Spanish link, but the corresponding Spanish article might be missing a link to English. Most of these lists are outdated.

• Wikipedia:Interlanguage links/Dutch
• Wikipedia:Interlanguage links/Esperanto
• Wikipedia:Interlanguage links/French
• Wikipedia:Interlanguage links/German
• Wikipedia:Interlanguage links/Polish
• Wikipedia:Interlanguage links/Spanish

For more information on working with other language Wikipedias, see Wikipedia:Embassy and Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination.

Regards, --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki links issues

Some things that has come up in relation to Alph Bot (see User talk:Alph Bot#Problem) that I could use some clarity on:

• Are we limited to only one English language page pointing to a page in another language's Wiki?
• Is there a problem with Set Indexes that are in the format of an article pointing to dab pages?
• Is there a problem with a page pointing to a section of a page in another language where the section is the only place where the topic is covered in that language?
• Do we have any thing on other Wikis, or here for that matter, on whether redirects can be set up solely for interwiki links?

Thanks

- J Greb (talk) 22:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I think your questions are very pertinent. I came here for the same kind of reasons (see below comment). For Q 1) and 3), I would say: 1) No, I don't think it's a problem. BTW, there are already many cross-inter-language-wiki-link referencing. Example, 「透明」(= transparency) and「透明度」(= transparency level) both link to「 Transparent 」, through it's sometimes used to mean「Invisible」as in 透明人間/Invisible man (Notice the first 2 caracters are the same as 透明/Transparent). 「Invisible」is linkless and I don't where I could link it. 3) That's a good idea, I think the more there are the better. Though it would be important that the tool tip show the section title and not the page title. Can that be done? － Cy21 ➜ discuss 20:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

These things are not absolutely bad, and it's true that they already exist, but it is a nightmare to maintain them. So it's better not to use them. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

How can this be so complicated?

How the heck do I link from the Spanish Wikibooks article on soy beans to Polish Wiktionary article on dog food? What about from a commons image to Swedish wikipedia article on lung cancer? No wonder there are so few links. Please make it very simple. Thanks. 85.77.170.127 (talk) 12:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Discuss Language Interwiki choice of word?

I noticed that sometimes there were 2 articles that lead 1 article in an other language... This of course because, most of the time, for languages with distant roots, translations don't go 1=1 but more 1=0.9 OR 1=1.1 (OR a phrase)

So I was wondering if there was a page to discuss this kind of language specific problem? Is there a spacial page for each language group? (Japnese ←→ English) I've searched but haven't found any. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cy21 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC) edited － Cy21(talk)

Template:Comp

FYI, {{Comp}} has been nominated for deletion. 65.94.253.16 (talk) 06:09, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Navbox template interwiki problem

I started adding German interwiki links to some aircraft and aircraft engine manufacturer navboxes Template:Rolls-Royce aeroengines as an example (the German equivalent is 'Vorlage:Navigationsleiste Rolls-Royce Flugzeugtriebwerk') and adding the English links to the German templates. A German editor spotted a problem and asked me to stop, which I did. I could not see the problem initially but it appears that when clicking on the language link in the left side bar of an article that this directs to the company navbox template and not the article. Is there anyway around this problem or is it something that is being caused at 'the other end'?!! Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 19:36, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Same problem on wiki:it, have undone my related edits there. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 19:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

If you put the interwiki links within the <noinclude> ... </noinclude> then they should only appear on the template's page, and not pages which utilize the template. See Wikipedia:Template documentation for more info. I've done this for Template:Rolls-Royce aeroengines so you can take a look at that for an example. TDL (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I will try it later. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 18:27, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Old English

I don't know if this is the right place for this query. I have noticed that interlanguage links at the left side of an article seem to have each language named in its own language (Deutsch, Français, Polski, etc.) except for Old English, where it says "Anglo-Saxon". (See, for example, the interlanguage links at the left side of Beowulf.) The language was called "Anglo-Saxon" a hundred years ago. Scholars tend to call it "Old English" now. Regardless, if the Wikipedia practice is to have "Deutch" rather than "German" for the linked word that takes us to a particular article in German, and "Français" rather than "French" for us to click on to take us to a particular article in French, then putting ang at the bottom of an article should give us the word "Englisc" to click on, not "Anglo-Saxon".

How can this be fixed? Girlwithgreeneyes (talk) 22:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

You should probably enter a new bug on Wikimedia Bugzilla and wait until someone fixes it... --Filemon (talk) 07:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I have done that. Girlwithgreeneyes (talk) 10:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Interlanguage Bots

If bots automatically handle interlanguage links (like if A connects to B and B connects to C, then A connects to C), then is there a way for those bots to sort alphabetically by the two-letter language code? It would make navigating between languages a lot easier. InMooseWeTrust (talk) 13:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:Iw

FYI, {{Iw}} has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.210.155 (talk) 04:16, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Interlanguage bots do not recognize deliberate human removal of errors

I recently worked on Merope (mythology), which was very sloppily linked to a lot of interlanguage articles, most of which correspond to Merope or Merope (Pleiades). I carefully removed the interlanguage links that do not belong, but three different bots have come along and re-added them.

My question: Shouldn't these bots have to analyze and understand that if human editors are removing and reverting interlanguage additions, they must not be re-added?

I know I could go into all of those sister Wikipedias and correct the problem by hand, but, in principle, it is galling that I would have to go to such lengths to defend a correct edit to English Wikipedia against an onslaught of bots programmed to reintroduce the error. Wareh (talk) 13:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

{{Bots|deny=…}} is your friend. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I had no idea of this tool. Admittedly a blunt instrument, but anyone who dislikes its kludginess can always fix the problem! Wareh (talk) 14:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

interlanguage links to Commons

I was looking for the information on how to add interlanguage links from wikipedias to commons. For example, I just moved Template:Str sub to commons: I added interlanguage link "[[en:Template:Str sub]]" to commons:Template:Str sub but would like to also add an interlanguage link pointing from Template:Str sub to commons. What is the correct syntax? --Jarekt (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

There isn't one. Commons isn't a different language - it's a separate project. See the lead section of H:ILL, para. 2 "The interlanguage link feature works also on Commons, and produces links to the Wikipedias. This is not reciprocal: a link from a Wikipedia to Commons is an in-page link.". You could put it in a "see also" section:

See also

• commons:Template:Str sub

--Redrose64 (talk) 14:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Do you know if this is a bug or a feature? In other words, was that a decision to allow links only in one direction, or the reason is that nobody thought yet about allowing that? I realize that I can use "see also" but that is not where I look for interlanguage links. --Jarekt (talk) 21:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I've just suggested the feature be enabled at WP:VPR.  An optimist on the run! 09:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Template:MultiLink

Template:MultiLink seems broken to me. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beta_Negative_Decay.svg All it is producing is red links wether referenced in wikipedia or the commons. I'm clueless about this sort if stuff, my apologies if I'm pointing out something irrelevant. TimL (talk) 17:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

As far as I can see, it produces two links: one on commons (red in your example) and one on the English Wikipedia, under the blue superscripted string "en". I think it's pointless and recommend the conventional [[:en:Feynman diagram|Feynman diagram]] giving Feynman diagram. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Alphabetization

It appears that the Wikipedia standard is to alphabetize the interlanguage links. But how to alphabetize? Is German alphabetized as German or Deutsch? Is Hebrew alphabetized as Hebrew or Ivrit? The answer to this question should be on the this article page, and in other appropriate locations in the manual of style. —Anomalocaris (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

It is, see H:ILL#Sorting. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I found the answer while you were replying. A further question: Does Wikipedia have bots that automatically re-alphabetize the links, or is this maintained by human effort? —Anomalocaris (talk) 18:27, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

There are lots of bots that maintain interlanguage links, and most of these will add new ILLs at suitable places, as here. Some of them will also sort existing ILLs into what they consider the proper order when adding another ILL, as here, but I don't know of any bots that sort the ILLs when there are no actual changes being made to the ILLs. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I've now found one which sorts when modifying an existing ILL - see here. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Nearly equivalent

What exactly is meant by "nearly equivalent", as mentioned in this Help article? A firmer definition may be required. A discussion is taking place at Talk:Kosovo#Interwikis which hinges on this point - please contribute. Regards, Bazonka (talk) 08:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Help

I think this tool is very limited, has recently an article of Mount Teide in urdu language, yet does not bind to the other languages ​​though below copy the links in other languages. I mean, in the article in English, Spanish or Chinese (for example) do not see the link to the article in Urdu. Please if anyone can help me would give a million thanks.--79.152.179.236 (talk) 19:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Done. Added ur:ٹیڈ to Teide. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Michael, but still missing the urdu language link in all other languages ​​(French, Portuguese, Catalan, Chinese, Japanese ... etc). How do I automatically appears in all languages​​?. Thank you very much.--79.152.179.236 (talk) 08:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Normally, several bots go around and fill these links. It may take a while; see Help:Interlanguage links, User talk:Yurik/Interwiki Bot FAQ, Wikipedia:Bots/Status. You could visit the other-language Wikipedias and add the Urdu link yourself. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

No interlanguage links in mobile Wikipedia version

See subject. BPK (talk) 12:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

How do I link completely outside of a languages?

How do I link completely outside of a language? For instance, how would I link to [1] from another page on Wikisource? Banaticus (talk) 10:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

The same as you do within a language Wikipedia. To link: [[:Template:TopTenCircle]], to transclude a template: {{TopTenCircle}}. Why do you ask? Doesn't that work for you? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Do interlanguage bots work in template namespace?

I have added a number of langlinks to templates (notably {{ATC code A}}, {{ATC code B}} etc.) four days ago and hoped that a bot would add the backlinks from the foreign-language templates, but nothing has happened so far. Don't the bots work in template namespace? It would be rather tedious to do by hand. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

They do, but as with articles that have never previously had ILLs, it can take days or even weeks for the bots to notice that the template now has some ILLs. You might find it easier to check that you have a Unified login, then go to those other Wikipedias and edit the templates yourself. Bear in mind that when a template has a documentation page, the ILLs should be added to that (within <includeonly>...</includeonly>, like this), and not to the main template. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm not in a hurry. I'd rather wait than having to add links to 50+ pages. After all, the links have been missing for months or years ;-) --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

IW's in redirects?

What is our policy re. IW's in redirected pages? I've seen this done several places for good effect, but expect that it's not s.t. we'd want too much of. Or, since we say 'articles' in the plural, should we have both IW's on the same WP-en page?

There are a few cases I think it might be useful, but for all I know there's already agreement not to do this:

• We have an article 'history of (country) X from 1600–1700', while in language X the articles are 'history of X from 1600–1650' and 'history of X from 1650–1700'. Neither is closer than the other, so here maybe we want two IW's to WP-X.
• Article A in WP-A corresponds closely to article B in WP-B, and that in turn corresponds well to article C in WP-C, but A and C are not matches, and if we link from WP-A to WP-C, bots will start adding all sorts of inappropriate IW's. This might be a case where putting the IW's in a RD would help.
• Two related topics rd to our article, and for now readers in other WP's should be directed to it, but we might develop the RD's into articles. We could also place the IW's in the dab page.

— kwami (talk) 03:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

spans on iw links?

• reverted
• User talk:Wehwalt#IW links
• User talk:Hgrosser#spans on iw links?

I don't think this is appropriate. I also don't think it being inflicted on other wikis will be appreciated. Something to talk about *first*. Alarbus (talk) 02:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)