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Table Overflows Into Right Margin[edit]

In the Safari browser on an iPad in the Cladograms section a table overflows to the right edge of the right margin and pushes the right edge of the margin to the right, expanding the right margin to nearly half the page. The entire text of the article is squeezed into the left half of the page.

I see this effect in other articles, e.g., a table in the Vocabulary comparison section of the Romance Languages article, but don't know how to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.72.170.69 (talkcontribs) 15:50, 4 December 2011‎

Clean up table of contents // Restructure[edit]

This help page has too many unordered information in it. I'd suggest a massive clean-up. If you dont want to delete whole sections, just improve nesting of headlines. Check these headlines - very hard to understand IMHO (sections 9-16):

9 Other table syntax
     9.1 Comparison of table syntax
 10 Pipe syntax in terms of the HTML produced
     10.1 Tables
     10.2 Rows
     10.3 Cells
     10.4 Headers
     10.5 Captions
     10.6 Summaries
 11 Square monitors
 12 Vertically oriented column headers
 13 Wikitable as image gallery
     13.1 Shifting/centering
 14 Generate a chart with a table
 15 Converting spreadsheet to wikitable format
 16 Tables and WYSIWYG -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesus Presley  (talkcontribs) 19:31, 25 November 2012

Cleanup[edit]

I am seeing instances of <span style="color: #a63;">'''|'''</span> which renders as |n which really is not distinctive. Instances such as <span style="color: #a63;">'''|Cell A'''</span>|Cell A do stand out better. --  Gadget850 talk 17:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Wrong cell data in example?[edit]

The example table in Mélange contains a cell having the data of a non-breaking space entity. Shouldn't it be "upper right"?

Why wouldn't it be a good idea to apply permanent identifying numbers in comments to examples (in this case tables) in a page, that by its very nature would be filled with examples? Then instead of describing a table that has an issue, one can simply say "Table ck11141628"? (As an example, the previous number was generated by initials and the date and time of creation of the number, but anything likely to generate IDs unique to a page would do.) Or is there already some method of this kind of reference? -- CampKohler (talk) 00:43, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Changed it to 'upper middle'.NAmed examples would have my preference too, when they are not directluy connected with the text (inline, same table row, same table column). -DePiep (talk) 10:36, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Centering a column[edit]

Maybe I'm just overlooking this...when I center a column, I go through the table rows and align the text to be centered in the column I want centered. Is there a way to center a column that's easier? --hmich176 09:21, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

@Hmich176: Judging by Help talk:Table/Archive 5#Centered Text in One Column Only, no. HTML does provide such means (the <colgroup>...</colgroup> and <col /> elements) but these are not permitted in Wiki markup. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:43, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
@Redrose64: That's what I suspected. Can anyone answer the technical reason why Wiki markup doesn't have the ability to do this? I'm curious to see an answer. Thanks! --hmich176 14:47, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Those HTML elements are not whitelisted in Sanitizer.php. --  Gadget850 talk 17:22, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
An interesting question is why they are not been sanitized. I can't see any particular logic in the decision, but perhaps there is. --Mrjulesd (talk) 20:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I understand that it's not whitelisted, and I'm sure there's some logical reason for that. I would like to understand the technical reasoning. --hmich176 09:18, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
It may just be that the matter has never been considered. A better solution, if there are any developers interested, would presumably be to incorporate such an option into the wiki table syntax (which generally doesn't use HTML tags on the surface). W. P. Uzer (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

improve example on table row linking[edit]

Hi, i just came here to learn how to set up a table row anchor and link to it. It worked for me in setting up link to List of museums in Florida#Table row MuseumOfSpeed. Thank you to past editors here.

But, in the section Help:Table#Section link or map link to a row anchor, the map example is a bit confusing, and is less than perfect example of practice in some ways. Specifically it gives example of link for Slovenia to jump to table row 11. The reader (me) is confused whether a) the link is literally going to count its way to the 11th row appearing in the table, or b) the link will jump to the number 11 in the possibly very important first column of the table, or c) the link will jump to whichever row is anchor-named as "table row 11". C is apparently the answer. The example need not introduce that confusion. And it is poor table-row-naming practice, IMO, to use the hard-coded number "11" in the anchor-name rather than using "Slovenia". If another row is inserted into the table, or if a future editor chooses to re-organize the table into a different order of entries, it would mess up correspondence of anchor-names to re-numbered row numbers to be displayed in the table. Updating all links within the article holding the map and table, and all links from other articles to the table rows, in order to restore a clear correspondence, would be a nightmare possibly. It would be far better for the anchor-name to be "table row Slovenia" than "table row 11".

I am inclined to edit the example to use "table row Slovenia" and the like, but will pause for comments. I'm a newbie here, would be happy to receive comments or suggestions. --doncram 23:05, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Question on sorting[edit]

Letter Number
A 4
6
B 1
5
C 3
2

In a sortable table like the above one, when you click on the second any column's header to sort by that column's contents the contents of the cells of the first column will be split and doubled. Is there any way to code such a table that it only splits if you sort on the second column and that if you sort back on the first column after having sorted on the second column the cells that were split in two are merged again to their original state? Tvx1 02:20, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

@Tvx1: No. You would need to file a feature request at phab:. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
@Redrose64:, could you give me some advice on how to file such a request in a good manner? Tvx1 00:16, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
If you follow that link, you should find near the top a box titled "Getting Things Done", containing two links, "Report a Problem" and "Phabricator Help". I would start there. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I can find how to report a bug, but I can't find any information regarding requesting a feature. Tvx1 00:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
"Report a Problem" is also used for feature requests. See more at mw:How to report a bug#Reporting a new bug or feature request (the method there reaches the same link as "Report a Problem"). Sorting issues are better discussed at Help talk:Sorting than here at Help talk:Table. I don't know whether your issue has been discussed before. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:56, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Putting image and table into a single line[edit]

When a table is not very wide, it takes up a lot of vertical space for not much material. I am wondering if it is possible to place a table inline, so that text flows around it (without turning it into an image), or else to share a single line between a table and an image. I can do the latter through nested tables, but these are discouraged.

Is there any other way to do either of these things? Here is the table:

Recognized independent Waldorf schools by continent
Continent Schools Countries
Africa 22 5
Asia 58 12
Europe 692 34
North America 150 3
Oceania 52 2
South America 67 6

And here is the image it could share a line with:HGilbert (talk) 13:06, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Growth of Waldorf schools
Growth in the number of accredited Waldorf schools in the world from 1919 to 2012



Recognized independent Waldorf schools by continent
Continent Schools Countries
Africa 22 5
Asia 58 12
Europe 692 34
North America 150 3
Oceania 52 2
South America 67 6
Growth of Waldorf schools
Growth in the number of accredited Waldorf schools in the world from 1919 to 2012


Try style="float:left;".
Look at the source. --Mrjulesd (talk) 13:26, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Perfect; thanks! HGilbert (talk) 13:49, 30 March 2015 (UTC)