Karl Burns

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Karl Burns
Born 1958
Manchester, England, United Kingdom
Genres Post-punk
Occupations Musician
Instruments drums, keyboards, guitar, bass guitar, vocals
Associated acts Nuclear Angel, The Fall, Public Image Ltd., The Teardrops, Bok Bok, Thirst, Ark

Karl Burns (born 1958, Manchester, England) is a British musician best known as drummer for The Fall, featuring in many incarnations of the band between 1977 and 1998.

Although several musicians have rejoined The Fall having previously left or been sacked, Burns was rehired a record nine times. He eventually left for good, alongside longtime bassist Steve Hanley, following an on-stage altercation with group leader Mark E. Smith in New York in April 1998.

Musical career[edit]

Burns was The Fall's first permanent drummer, joining them in time for their second gig. He had previously played in a different band, Nuclear Angel, with founding Fall bassist Tony Friel. Burns is heard on the group's first two singles and their first studio album Live at the Witch Trials.

Burns left in early 1979, joining The Teardrops, with Steve Garvey of Buzzcocks, with whom he formed a brief and parallel project, Bok Bok, and remained in the band until 1981, when they broke up. He rejoined The Fall that latter year, initially as a temporary replacement for Paul Hanley who was refused a visa for a US tour due to being too young. Recordings from this tour were released as A Part of America Therein, 1981. Upon the group's return to the UK, Smith invited Burns to stay on and The Fall appeared with two drummers until Paul Hanley's departure in late 1984. Burns would also sometimes play a second bass guitar during this period; an example of this can be heard on "Lay Of The Land" from The Wonderful And Frightening World Of The Fall.

He left The Fall in early 1986 and was replaced by Simon Wolstencroft. However, he rejoined the band in 1993, playing alongside Wolstencroft in a second two-drummer line-up until the latter left in 1997. Burns also played guitar and even sang during this period. However, he was absent from several tours in the 90s, leaving and returning regularly until his final departure.

According to the 2008 book The Fallen by Dave Simpson, Burns's repeated departures from the Fall were due primarily to his open resistance to vocalist Mark E. Smith's unorthodox leadership. To coax musicians into performing as he prefers, Smith is notorious for using a variety of "moulding" methods such as insults, silent treatment, and jostling musicians onstage. Many of Burns's former Fall bandmates reported that he was most likely to retaliate against Smith -- physically if Burns deemed it necessary. Burns's clashes with Smith was perhaps most obvious at the notorious New York City concert mentioned above where Burns attacked Smith after the vocalist repeatedly and deliberately knocked one of Burns's cymbal stands to the floor. Simpson also quotes ex-Fall keyboardist Simon Rogers describing Burns as a "brilliant" drummer whose somewhat erratic temperament made him unlikely to fit in more conventional bands.

Burns played with two other bands during time out from The Fall - he formed Thirst with ex-Fall guitarist Martin Bramah in the '80s. Burns also played briefly with John Lydon's Public Image Limited (PIL) in September 1979, but left because he did not get along with other members, including guitarist Keith Levene and bass guitarist Jah Wobble, the latter of whom was long alleged to have attempted to set Burns on fire.[1] However Wobble denied this in 2007.[2]

Current whereabouts[edit]

Burns was one of few ex-members of The Fall who Dave Simpson was not able to find for his article "Excuse Me, Weren't You In The Fall?" (2006) and his book The Fallen (2008). Several ex-members feared that Burns was dead, although a rumour circulated that he lived in "the hills" in Rossendale.[3] In an interview with The Stool Pigeon (issue 10, February 2007), Mark E. Smith stated that he had recently met Burns' mother; she confirmed that he was indeed alive, advising Smith that he "lives on a farm in the hills somewhere". After the publication of The Fallen, Burns contacted Simpson by e-mail, requesting a copy of the book to a Rossendale address which he stressed was not his residence. Burns had already spoken to his former bandmate, Steve Hanley, by telephone, and told him that he was married and working.[4]

References[edit]

  1. ^ Scott M and Roekens, Karsten. "PIL People: Karl Burns". Fodderstompf. Retrieved 28 February 2007. 
  2. ^ The Times - [entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article1553269.ece]
  3. ^ Simpson, Dave (2006-01-05). "Excuse me, weren't you in the Fall?". The Guardian (UK) (London). Retrieved 28 February 2007. 
  4. ^ Simpson, Dave (2009) [2008]. The Fallen (Paperback). Canongate. pp. 315–316.