Mercedes-Benz W08

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Mercedes-Benz W 08
Mercedes Benz W 08 Sportroadster front 20110611.jpg
Mercedes-Benz W08 Sport Roadster (1929)
Overview
Manufacturer Mercedes-Benz
Also called 1928-33: Mercedes-Benz Typ Nürburg 460
:Mercedes-Benz 18/80 PS
1931-32: Mercedes-Benz Typ Nürburg 500
:Mercedes-Benz 19/100 PS
1932-39: Mercedes-Benz Typ 500
Production 1928–1939
3,824 units
Assembly Stuttgart, Germany
Body and chassis
Class Large luxury car
Body style Torpedo bodied 6 seater “Tourenwagen”
6-seater Pullman-Limousine
Roadster
2 & 4-door Cabriolets (various)
Layout FR layout
Powertrain
Engine 1928-33: 4,622cc Inline-eight engine
1931-39: 4,918cc Inline-eight engine
Dimensions
Wheelbase standard chassis 1928 – 39:
3,670 mm (144 in)
short chassis 1931-33:
3,430 mm (135 in)
Length 5,140 mm (202 in) -
5,380 mm (212 in)
Width 1928-29: 1,760 mm (69 in)
1929-39: 1,820 mm (72 in)
Height 1928-29: 1,900 mm (75 in)
1929-39: 1,820 mm (72 in)

The Mercedes-Benz Nürburg 460 was introduced in Autumn 1928,[1] Mercedes-Benz's first eight cylinder passenger car. Designated model W 08 was by the factory,[2] it remained in production with various modifications and upgrades until the later summer of 1939, the longest lived Mercedes-Benz model of the 1920s and 30s.

Typ Nürburg 460 1928–1929[edit]

The car was developed by Ferdinand Porsche, who had transferred to Daimler from the firm’s Austrian affiliate in 1923. Porsche was the board member with responsibility for new product development. The company’s objective with the new eight cylinder Mercedes-Benz was to come up with a serious competitor to the Horch 8,[3] and Porsche’s work on the new car appears to have been very rushed.[4] The result was a car with a traditional “overslung” (“Hochbett”) chassis with the longitudinal chassis members directly above the axles, at a time when newer designs increasingly favored “underslung” (“Tiefbett”) chassis layouts on which the axles sat directly above the load bearing chassis beams. The 1928 Mercedes-Benz W08 therefore looked unfashionably tall even at the time of its launch.

The engine was a 4,622cc straight-8 side-valve unit for which maximum output was given as 80 PS (59 kW; 79 hp) at 3,400 rpm which translated into a top speed of 100 km/h (63 mph). The wheels were suspended from rigid axles supported by semi-elliptical leaf springs at the front and at the back. Braking applied on all four wheels using a mechanical linkage supported by a Bosch-Dewandre vacuum suction device.[5]

The car was close in size to the Horch 8 which had effectively been benchmarked for its design. The 1928 “Pullman-Limousine” bodied version of the Horch came with an overall length of 5,000 mm (200 in) and a weight of 2,100 kg (bare chassis weight 1400 kg). The 1928 “Pullman-Limousine” bodied version of the Mercedes-Benz Nürburg 460 was 4,890 mm (193 in) long which increased to 5,200 mm (200 in) when the detachable rear boot/trunk was added: the Mercedes weighed in at 2,150 kg (bare chassis weight 1550 kg).[6] Both cars had an imposing height in this standard bodied form of 1,900 mm (75 in) even though the Horch had since its 1926 launch incorporated an “underlung” chassis. The cars’ respective widths were 1,765 mm (69.5 in) and 1,760 mm (69 in).[7]

In addition to the “Pullman-Limousine” bodied car, priced by Mercedes-Benz at 15,000 Marks, buyers of the 1928 W08 could choose a Torpedo bodied 6 seater “Tourenwagen” for 14,000 Marks or a 4-door “Cabriolet D” for 17,500 Marks.[8] There is also mention of a reduced wheelbase 2-door cabriolet, although it is not clear whether any of these were produced based on the 1928 W 08.

The big old fashioned and very expensive Mercedes-Benz W08 of 1928 found few customers, and had to be replaced the next year with a more stylish version, now using an “underslung” chassis. Technical Director Porsche’s contract was not renewed at the end of 1928 which was followed by two years of acrimonious litigation between the company and its former Technical Director, while there are reports that it took six years for Mercedes-Benz to sell off, at discounted prices, the already accumulated inventory of 1928 model Nürburg 460s.

Typ Nürburg 460 1929–1932[edit]

For 1929 the company’s first eight cylinder model was extensively reworked by the newly appointed Technical Director Hans Nibel.[9] The result was a car with a modern “underslung” chassis whereby the longitudinal chassis beams were located below axel height. This made it easier for people to step into the car as well as allowing for a range of lower and more elegant car bodies to be fitted. The 3,670 mm (144 in) wheelbase was unchanged, however.[10]

The engine and most other technical details were carried over unchanged from the 1928 car including the ratios chosen for the four speed manual transmission. Synchromesh was not included at this stage. A newly available transmission option for 1929 was an additional “overdrive” ratio.[11]

A shorter, if still substantial 3,430 mm (135 in) wheelbase version was available from 1931 for two door cabriolet body work, although as far as is known Mercedes-Benz themselves offered no “standard Sindelfingen built" body of their own for this shorter chassis.[12] The standard bodies offered for the standard wheelbase 1929 cars covered the same possibilities as the 1928 body range.[13] It is clear from surviving examples that many customers preferred to buy the car in base chassis form and have a bespoke body added by an independent coachbuilder, however.[14]

Despite the extensive makeover applied in 1929 the Mercedes-Benz W08 was still comfortably outsold by the Horch 8 which evidently was well entrenched at the top end of the German passenger car market at this time, and which in most body configurations was a little less overwhelmingly expensive than the eight cylinder contender from Mercedes-Benz. On the other hand, with this model Mercedes were able to ensure that the market place dominance of the big Horch was no longer completely unchallenged.[15]

A Mercedes-Benz Nürburg 460 was gifted to the Pope in 1930.[citation needed]

Typ Nürburg 500 1931–1933[edit]

In 1931 the 3,670 mm (144 in) wheelbase car became available with an enlarged 4,918cc engine which now also featured a twin downdraft carburettor. Maximum output was now listed as 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) at 3,100 rpm and claimed top speed increased to 110 km/h (69 mph). A wider range of standard bodies was also now listed including a six-seater “Pullman-Cabriolet F” priced at 21,800 Marks, along with two and four door “Cabriolet C” and “Cabriolet D” models.[16]

Typ 500 (1932–1936)[edit]

In 1932 the W08 lost the “Nürburg” name, being sold simply as the Mercedes-Benz Typ 500. The 4,918cc 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) side-valve engine with its twin downdraft carburettor was unchanged, as were the four speed optional overdrive transmission, wheelbase, and list of standard body types.[17] Styling was changed slightly, the most obvious aspect of which was a slight raking of both radiator grill and windscreen.[18]

Despite the same stated maximum output of 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) engine compression ratio was slightly raised, as were transmission gear ratios and maximum torque. With slightly larger wheels the Typ 500 could reach 120 km/h (75 mph).[19]

Typ 500 (1936–1939)[edit]

1936 saw an increase in claimed maximum output from the engine to 110 PS (81 kW; 108 hp) at 3,300 rpm. The cylinder capacity at 4,918cc was unchanged, but there was a marginal raising of the compression ratio. The claimed top speed was now raised further to 123 km/h (76 mph).[20] Visually the 1936 cars can be differentiated from the increased rake of the front grill and windscreen.

By this time the rival from Horch, the Horch 8, had disappeared from the scene (in 1935) and Mercedes-Benz production of their own 8 cylinder cars had slowed to a trickle. Between 1931 and 1935 the annual volume of passenger car sales in Germany more than tripled,[21] but these very large cars did not share in the general auto-market expansion of the 1930s. The W 08 remained in production till 1939, annual production volumes for 1936, 1937, 1938 and 1939 falling to 87, 54, 50 and 51 cars.[22] The model was discontinued in 1939 without any immediate successor, twenty-four years passing before the next 8-cylinder engined Mercedes-Benz appeared, the (Mercedes-Benz 600) in 1963. During its final years the W 08 was the only model in the manufacturer's range still featuring rigid axles and wooden wheels.

The Mercedes-Benz W08 was never intended or expected to sell in massive volumes, and production totaled 3,824 cars during its eleven-year run between 1928 and 1939. Its less expensive and exclusive rival, the Zwickau built Horch 8, sold approximately 12,000 cars between 1926 and 1934.

Sources and further reading[edit]

  • Oswald, Werner (2001). Deutsche Autos 1920-1945, Band (vol) 2 (in German). Motorbuch Verlag. ISBN 3-613-02170-6. 
  1. ^ "MERCEDES-BENZ AT THE 2008 PARIS MOTOR SHOW" Mercedes-Benz. Retrieved 2013-11-20.
  2. ^ Oswald, pp 231 & 262
  3. ^ Oswald, pp 214: That Horch was the manufacturer's principal competitor in the German big car market was not without irony, since the Horch 8 was the car that Paul Daimler, son of the Daimler founder, had wanted to develop as a Daimler. Paul had been over-ruled and left the company in acrimonious circumstances to work for Horch, while new product development for the newly merged Daimler-Benz company was taken over by Ferdinand Porsche who transferred from Austro-Daimler.
  4. ^ Oswald, p 231
  5. ^ Oswald, p 233
  6. ^ Oswald, pp 163 & 233
  7. ^ Oswald, pp 163 & 233
  8. ^ Oswald, p 233
  9. ^ Nibel had been Technical Director with Benz in 1926 when economic pressures had enforced the fusion of Benz with Daimler. Porsche had come from the Daimler side of the merger, and when his contract was not renewed in 1928, Nibel was his natural successor
  10. ^ Oswald, pp 231 & 233
  11. ^ Oswald, p 233
  12. ^ Oswald, p 231
  13. ^ Oswald, p 233
  14. ^ Oswald, p 232 & 233
  15. ^ Oswald, pp 163, 231 & 233
  16. ^ Oswald, p 233
  17. ^ Oswald, pp 260, 262 & 263
  18. ^ Oswald, p 260
  19. ^ Oswald, p 263
  20. ^ Oswald, p 263
  21. ^ Oswald, p 531
  22. ^ Oswald, pp 206 & 207

This entry incorporates information from the equivalent German Wikipedia entry.

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