Portal talk:Information technology
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|This page was nominated for deletion on 2008 January 29. The result of the discussion was keep.|
- 1 About this portal
- 2 Topics from 2005
- 3 Topics from 2006
- 4 Topics from 2007
- 5 Topics from 2008
About this portal
The "Portal:Information technology" is a collection of many special (non-article) Wikipedia pages (with prefix "Portal:") that attempt to present an organized view into hundreds of articles about the general subject of information technology. There are over 540 portals on other subjects (see general description: Wikipedia:Portal). This portal was begun in June 2005, but improvements are always welcomed, within the current structure, as it evolves. Although the portal pages are designed to help navigate into article groups, readers can still use the Wikipedia search option (at page left) to hunt articles by any words used inside an article. -Wikid77 (talk) 05:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Topics from 2005
New Computer Science Stub
hey, guys: New template: comp-sci-stub . thank you ABCD Use appropriately. I was horrified with the use of computer-stub. Thanks.
Project2501a 19:48, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
I have started a Microsoft Notice board. Anyone interested in joining in? - Ta bu shi da yu 05:28, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I hope that the only use for your notice board is "DO NOT RUN WINDOWS" Project2501a 01:10, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) :D
WikiProject Computer science
There is a link to the Technical Communication category under both Computing and Information Technology. Probably doesn't need to be listed twice.
Topics from 2006
My first contribution to en.wikipedia. Someone help me please with revising, correcting typos and grammar and finding suitable categories, backlinks and literature. --Thetawave 16:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Information Technology and Computer Science
This portal seems to combine IT and CS fairly extensively, which I think poses a real point of confusion for visitors. There are big differences between the two fields — I have a degree in CS and my brother-in-law has a degree in IT, and our areas of expertise hardly overlap at all.
If it's really supposed to be Portal:Information technology, I think it should be confined to IT; if it's going to include both IT and CS, it should be moved to a more topic-neutral location (such as Portal:Computing), or split into two portals (Portal:Computer science and Portal:Information technology). --bmills 17:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
- Computers are used for both computational purposes and informational purposes. It's confusing to use a specific title like Portal:Information technology when both types of topics are included. The same problem would also be present if it is changed to Portal:Computing. I doubt Portal:Computer even makes sense since computing goes beyond just computers with analytical engine and calculators as well as since information goes beyond just computers with telephone and search engines. On the other hand, spliting into Portal:Computer Science and Portal:Information Technology would mean that things like cryptography may not fit clearly into one or the other. 3Laws 22:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- I completely agree with bmills. This Portal needs to be change to Computing; Computer Engineering, Computer Science, Information Systems, Information Technology, and Software Engineering are all sub-disciplines. The Joint Task Force, ACM, AIS, and IEEE-CS, has laid out regarding disciplines. I would say create a portal for all 5 but not sure if there would be enough to justify. Better yet This Portal needs to be changed to Computing followed by each of the 5 sub-disciplines as categories. Refer to the following articles: Computing As A Discipline and Computing CurricularTekeek (talk) 06:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- Another reason is that if I am researching the hierarchy of anything related to technology, computers, information systems, etc. Then I expect to see it as such. Computing/Computer Engineering, Computer Science, Information Systems, Information Technology, and Software Engineering, Computing:General/Misc.Tekeek (talk) 06:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject Programming languages
Fair use image
I removed the screenshot in the selected article section, as it was a violation of Wikipedia's fair use policy. Please remember that fair use images can only be used in the article name space (the main page though is an exception)--☆TBC☆ (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 09:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Main Page Categories?
On the front page of this portal it list Turing Award under categories. shouldnt that link to Category:Turing Award laureates. Just a thought, i havent been over here for very long and do not want to change this if this is the way its intended to be. --Altrock78 04:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
well, Internet, Technology and Free software seems ok, but why Apple Macintosh? Are macs really that important? even more important than Linux and PCs? Sounds a bit as if the apple marketing department... 126.96.36.199 22:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Selected article for how long?
OpenBSD has been a "selected article" on this portal as long as I can remember.
Topics from 2007
List of computer hardware companies
Does anyone actively participate in this portal? /Blaxthos 05:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- I check it often, but dont feel my english skills is good enough to do any editing :( - Espenan 01:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Topics from 2008
Retrofit topic headers
16-March-2008: There hasn't been much discussion here over the past year, so I just grouped the older topics using level-1 headers as "Topics from 2005" (etc.) to emphasize age of topics. Older topics might still apply, but using the tactic of yearly headers to note the age helps avoid rehashing old news, without archiving any ongoing issues. -Wikid77 (talk) 05:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
About: About this portal
16-March-2008: I have retrofit the short topic "About this portal" near the top of the discussion to orient new readers to the concept of the portal (in case they miss "What is a portal?" on the overview page). That orientation blurb precedes the long discussion topics, and it alerts readers that hundreds of articles have been linked from these information-technology portal pages, to give readers some idea of how many related pages they face. -Wikid77 (talk) 05:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear all. I am a professional translator and use the internet a lot for reference. I have found Wikipedia to be a generally superior source of information for me on most subjects. That's invariably where I go first. My work is not generally computer related, but of course I need to understand computer related issues in order to be able to work on a computer and manage it professionally, even if most of what I do is word processing, and we do use some somewhat sophisticated software. So this is a letter from someone who is not a bottom floor computer illiterate, but also has no great understanding of computers. I know this is all written by volunteers, and appreciate this, but I have to say: Practically every wikipedia page on computer issues I have been to, I did not understand anything. Seriously: I did not understand anything. For instance I went and looked up VM - at least I got it defined as virtual machine, but beyond that, the definitions and examples went completely over my head. This appears to be a problem specific to the computer world that people who are really knowledgeable about computers are so far into it and so far removed from ordinary language and modes of thought that they can not write so that a lay person or someone with limited understanding of the issues can understand it. These articles are written by computer wizards for computer wizards. One relatively simple piece of software that we translators use is called Trados workbench. This was developed relatively early on by a german company, and here again the only information they supplied was a 400 page manual written by wizards, for wizards. Everybody who was not a wizard had trouble getting started. There was no startup manual. There was a CD with a tutorial on how to run it, but it was missing a number of important pieces of information on how to START, which may have been too self evident to the makers of the material to include. I eventually manipulated my way into the inner sanctum of tech support and guilt-tripped one of the folks there into getting me started, it took all of 20 minutes. After this I realized that the only one who could truly understand what the novice is facing would be another novice, and he would be the only one truly qualified to write a startup manual. And so within 2 weeks I did and put it out on the internet. I think it is about 5 pages. This was around 1999, and I have gotten hundreds of thank you letters since then. This all not to congratulate myself, but just to illustrate the problem. Somehow the computer/software articles on wikipedia need to be translated for the common person. the best way to do this is probably to include a section in each article which explains things in common language. And probably evaluations/comparisons would be good, too. I know PC world and others do this sort of thing, and do it halfway well, but I do not understand why we have to have a situation where for everything else we can go to wikipedia, but for computer stuff we have to go everywhere else searching - other than of course, the articles are written by volunteers, and they only do their best.
I translate a lot of medical material, and yet I can not understand a lot of what my urologist tells me, because he has not learned to speak anything other than medical language. He can not explain anything in ordinary language. And I'm even intelligent and educated. This is the problem with wikipedia's computer articles. Obviously an explanation which the recipient does not understand is no better than no explanation.
I would not be adverse to getting involved in such a project myself. I could see a section of each article called "At a glance:" where for instance VM was explained in ordinary human terms. I have never been involved with wikipedia before, and so do not know where to start, but maybe someone could approach me to discuss it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- Dear reader!
- I think you are right Virtual machine is not very good article, and I do hope it will be improved in the nearest future. However there are many good and readable computer related pages. For example, please, see Pascal (programming language), Intel Corporation, LaTeX. Have you any serious problem to understand these noted articles? With best wishes, --Tim32 (talk) 14:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Source code vs pseudocode
Please, see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (mathematics)#Source code and pseudocode -- very important for future IT articles development -- a consensus needs to be reached.--Tim32 (talk) 14:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Rename portal to portal:Computing?
The scope of this portal is the whole of computing, which includes the subfield of IT, so I think the page name should be given the broader page name of portal:Computing (although the portal description would remain as "Computing and IT portal"). (I believe this was actually the original name for this portal.) Any comments? 184.108.40.206 (talk) 23:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)