Portland Timbers–Seattle Sounders rivalry

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Portland Timbers-Seattle Sounders Rivalry
City or region Pacific Northwest
Teams involved Portland Timbers vs. Seattle Sounders FC
(Current teams; see Rivalry section below for other historical teams in both cities)
First contested May 2, 1975 (POR 0–1 SEA)
Number of meetings 87
Most wins Seattle (45 wins)
Most recent meeting July 13, 2014 (SEA 2-0 POR)
Next meeting August 24, 2014 (POR-SEA)
All-time series 45–32–10 (Seattle)
Regular season series League: 38–26–10 (Seattle)
Open Cup: 4–1–0 (Seattle)
Other (Pre-WACS): 0-1-0 (Portland)
Postseason results 4–3–0 (Portland)
Largest victory POR 1–6 SEA (July 3, 1985)

The Portland–Seattle rivalry is a soccer rivalry between the Portland Timbers and Seattle Sounders soccer teams. The rivalry pre-dates the current teams in both cities, back to the North American Soccer League days, and has since grown into one of the largest and most bitter rivalries in American soccer.[1] The rivalry[2] has spanned across several leagues including the USL First Division, A-League, NASL, and Major League Soccer.[3] According to many players, the Seattle–Portland rivalry is one of the only true derbies that is present in American soccer.[4] Alan Hinton, a former English international and ex-Sounders coach, has compared the rivalry to those seen in the English Premier League.[5] It is considered to be one of the most intense rivalries in the United States,[6][7] along with the Atlantic Cup and California Clásico.[8][9]

Seattle and Portland have had rivalries based on various sports teams. A heated rivalry surrounded the Portland Buckaroos and Seattle Totems of the minor-league Western Hockey League in the 1960s.[10] Later, some fans supported the Thunderbirds or Winterhawks hockey teams. This rivalry "naturally translated into soccer" according to one fan.[11] The two cities also had a rivalry between the SuperSonics and Trail Blazers of the NBA, known as the "Battle of I-5", since both cities intersect on the freeway Interstate 5. The rivalry continued until the SuperSonics relocated to Oklahoma City in 2008.[3]

Rivalry[edit]

NASL era[edit]

The Seattle Sounders and Portland Timbers first played each other on May 2, 1975; in the Timbers' inaugural game. Seattle defeated Portland 1–0 in front of 8,131 at Portland Civic Stadium.[12] The return match, played on July 26, 1975 saw Portland play spoils and defeat the hosts, Seattle 2-1, in front of a crowd of 27,310. A month later, Portland knocks Seattle out of the playoffs in front of crowd of 31,000.[13]

On June 30, 1979, Seattle defeats Portland 5–1 in the Kingdome in front of a season high 34,000 spectators. Until the 1980s, it would stand as the largest victory in the derby, and to this date, is the largest victory by either side in the top tier of American soccer. In the 5–1 victory, Seattle's Derek Smethurst netted a hat trick.

At the end of the 1982 North American Soccer League season, the Portland Timbers franchise was forced to fold, once team expenditures outpaced club income. Consequently, the 1–0 Sounders victory over the Timbers on August 22, 1982 ended up being the final meeting between the two sides in the North American Soccer League. It would not be for nearly 30 years, in 2011, the two sides would meet against one another in the top flight of American soccer.[14]

WSL/WSA era[edit]

At the end of the 1983 NASL season, the original Seattle Sounders franchise terminated, with the league itself ceasing operations ahead of the 1985 season. In 1984, a Western Soccer Alliance franchise was granted to the Seattle area for a soccer club in the area that was branded as the Seattle Storm, and went under the F.C. Seattle moniker for a while.[15] The following year, a WSA franchise was also granted to the Portland area, where the rivalry continued through the late 1980s into the early 1990s.

USL[edit]

After an 11 year hiatus, the rivalry continued in 2001, when the newly incarnated Portland Timbers hosted the Seattle Sounders at PGE Park on May 11, 2001. In front of a crowd nearly 12,300, the hosts walked away with a 2–0 victory.

  • July 21, 2001, former U.S. National Team player, Brian Ching, would score the only goal in 1–0 Sounders victory over the Timbers, as over 11,000 would be in attendance in Portland.

Ahead of the 2004 season, supporters of both the Sounders, Timbers, and their rival up the I-5 corridor, the Whitecaps, created the Cascadia Cup which would be given to the winner of a three-way regular season series. Dubbed the Cascadia Cup, the trophy would be awarded to the supporters whose team had a stronger record against the two sides. The first ever formal Cascadia Cup match between the two resulted in a Timbers victory, defeating the Sounders 2–0 on May 1, 2004. During the four regular season meetings during that season, the Sounders lost thrice, and had one victory over Portland. However, in the 2004 USL First Division Playoffs, their first playoff meeting since 1975, the Sounders won 3–2 on aggregate over Portland, posting a 2–0 home victory in the second leg.

On September 18, 2005, Seattle knocks Portland out of the playoffs for a second straight year, as Sounders defeat the Timbers 2–0 in Seattle.

  • In Seattle, Sounders defeats the Timbers 3–1 on July 22, 2006, in a hotly contested match that accumulated eight yellow cards, and one red.
  • May 10, 2008, in front of over 10,000 at Qwest Field, Seattle and Portland play to a 0–0 draw in the final match the two teams would play each other in Seattle in the USL-1.
  • August 7, 2008, the Timbers and Sounders play each other for a final time in the Division 2 league, USL-1. Seattle defeats Portland 1–0 on the historic night,[16] in front of a rambunctious 12,332 fans. The high intensity match also includea a total of six cards handed out, and one ejection.

MLS era[edit]

On July 1, 2009, Seattle eliminates Portland 2–1 before a sold out PGE Park crowd in the US Open Cup. Roger Levesque — a player Portland fans have had a particular dislike for — scored Seattle's first goal within the opening minute.[5][17] Levesque completed a goal celebration, in which he stood still at the top of the Timbers penalty area while Nate Jaqua pretended to chop him down like a tree, ending with Levesque falling flat on his back.[18]

A cold and rainy night on March 11, 2010, Portland defeats Seattle 1–0 in a preseason community shield charity match. The crowd of 18,606 in attendance that night at Qwest Field, is one of the largest crowds to attend a preseason game between two U.S. teams in American soccer history.

In hoping to stoke the rivalry for the future 2011 Major League Soccer season — when the Timbers would be joining the Sounders in MLS — Portland unveil a billboard displaying a Timbers crest and the words Portland, Oregon and Soccer City USA less than a mile from Qwest Field in Seattle.[19] The billboard was broadcast to a nationwide audience on ESPN2 during halftime of the Sounders home match versus Real Salt Lake that evening.[20]

In March 2011, the Timbers defeated the Sounders 2-0 in the Preseason Cascadia Summit, a round robin game event involving the two teams and their Canadian rival, the Vancouver Whitecaps. In their first match as both MLS sides, and the first time since 1982 the two played in top division American soccer the Timbers and the Sounders battle to a draw at a rain soaked Qwest Field in front of 36,593 in the highly anticipated MLS debut of the three way Cascadia Derby. This was a stadium record crowd to see a regular season MLS match, and included more than 500 traveling Portland fans. The return match, on July 10, 2011 saw Seattle earn a 3–2 road victory.

October 7, 2012, The second largest stand alone crowd in MLS history (66,452) and the largest since 1996 watched Portland play Seattle at CenturyLink Field. Portland brought more than 1500 fans. The Timbers had their second chance of the year to clinch their first Cascadia Cup contested by all three sides, but lost 3-0 to the host Sounders.[21]

Supporter groups[edit]

The Timbers' Army, pictured in 2009.

A bitter rivalry between the two team's supporter groups exists. The Portland Timbers are supported by the Timbers Army, and Seattle Sounders by the Emerald City Supporters. The spirited groups have always showed a deep amount of resentment toward each other throughout the years.[11][22] With the close proximity of the two cities, traveling fans of both sides witness hostile environments while visiting the opposing stadium. A rare moment of violence broke out in March 2010 after a preseason Timbers win in Seattle, when, three Sounders fans (who were supposedly not associated with any Sounders supporters group) assaulted a Timbers fan, choking and dragging him with his team scarf.[23]

Emerald City Supporter's "Build a Bonfire" tifo at the Sounders FC v. Timbers FC in 2013.

On March 20, 2009, at the Portland MLS expansion rally, League Commissioner Don Garber mentioned how great of a region the Pacific Northwest is for soccer, and gave an example by the success of the new MLS team Seattle Sounders. However, his comment was met with heavy boos, and jeers coming from the Timbers Army surrounding him. Portland mayor, Sam Adams, then offered a challenge to the Seattle mayor, for when the Timbers and Sounders meet in 2011.[24]

Players and transfers[edit]

A large portion of the Sounders-Timbers rivalry can be seen on the soccer pitch itself. Before Seattle made the jump to MLS, many onfield rivalries between the players existed. As the years progressed, this would only enhance the level of competition, and intensify the matches. An example of this was the notable rivalry between Timbers defender Scot Thompson, and Sounders striker, Roger Levesque. Levesque, now with MLS's Seattle Sounders, has played in Seattle for several years, while Thompson has played in Portland since 2004.

Another reason the rivalry intensified was the transfer of star players between the two teams. While many players transferred to the other rival city from when the Timbers resumed play in 2001, the most memorable was the signing of Portland's all time assist leader, and fan favorite Hugo Alcaraz-Cuellar[25] to Seattle in 2007. That same season, Seattle star Andrew Gregor signed with Portland, thus creating tensions on the field, as the players became familiar with each other. While playing for the Sounders in 2003, Gregor had said "A lot of the guys, we know each other from years back, and we don't get along and stuff. It's always exciting."[3]

NASL and USL matches between the teams were intense and more physical than other teams in the leagues. Sigi Schmid has said that Seattle, Portland, and Vancouver playing in the same league again will be "something that's going to be one of the key features of MLS".[5] The first of these was Seattle fan favorite Mike Fucito who came to Portland via the Montreal Impact on April 20, 2012.[26]

Seattle, then Portland[edit]

Name Pos Seattle Portland
Career Apps Goals Career Apps Goals
United States Roger Goldingay FW 1974 1975–76 15 0
United States Hank Liotart MF 1974–76 45 2 1976–77 28 2
England David Butler FW 1974–78 97 34 1979 20 6
Scotland John Bain MF 1983 24 2 1989–90
United States Peter Hattrup FW 1984–89 1990
United States Daryl Green DF 1986–89 1990
United States Billy Crook DF 1988 1990
Scotland Ian MacLean DF 1989 1 1 1990
United States Scott Benedetti FW 1990 2001–05 96 6
United States Chugger Adair FW 1997 19 5 2002 20 2
United States Mark Baena FW 1998–99 44 41 2001 24 13
United States Greg Howes MF 2000 27 17 2001–02 40 12
United States Darren Sawatzky FW 2000 28 16 2001 22 5
United States Rees Bettinger FW 2001 23 5 2002 5 0
United States Scott Bower MF 2001 1 0 2002 4 0
United States Andrew Gregor MF 2002 46 16 2004 13 2
United States Alex Bengard MF 2003 23 3 2004 24 5
United States Andrew Gregor MF 2005–06 39 8 2007–08 37 8
United States Stephen Keel DF 2006 10 1 2009–10 52 1
United States Kevin Forrest FW 2008–09 9 0 2009 10 0
United States Mike Fucito FW 2009–11 23 3 2012 12 0
Democratic Republic of the Congo Steve Zakuani FW 2009–13 80 17 2014– 4 0
United States Andrew Weber GK 2012–13 6 0 2014– 3 0

Portland, then Seattle[edit]

Name Pos Portland Seattle
Career Apps Goals Career Apps Goals
Scotland John Bain MF 1978–82 148 45 1983 24 2
England David Butler FW 1979 20 6 1983 1 0
United States Grant Gibbs DF 1985–87 1988–90
United States Todd Strobeck GK 1985–90 1993–95
United States Brent Goulet FW 1986–87 9 1987 5 2
United States Scott Benedetti FW 1986–89 1990
United States Joey Leonetti FW 1988 1996
United States Dick McCormick MF 1988–90 1994–96 52 6
United States Kasey Keller GK 1989 10 0 2009–11 93 0
United States Garrett Smith DF 1989 1990
United States Wade Webber DF 1989 1990
United States Billy Crook DF 1990 1994–96
United States Peter Hattrup FW 1990 1994–95
United States Shawn Medved FW 1990 10 1994–95 7
United States Darren Sawatzky FW 2001 22 5 2002–04 67 22
United States Greg Howes MF 2001–02 40 12 2007 21 5
United States Ben Somoza MF 2002 21 1 2003–06 60 2
United States Jake Sagare MF 2002–04 72 5 2005–06 29 0
Mexico Hugo Alcaraz-Cuellar MF 2002–06 131 10 2007–08 41 3
United States Andrew Gregor MF 2004 13 2 2005–06 39 8
Scotland Adam Moffat MF 2011 4 0 2013 6 0
United States Kenny Cooper FW 2011 34 8 2014- 14 6

Cups[edit]

Between 2004 and 2008, the USL Seattle Sounders, Portland Timbers, and Vancouver Whitecaps competed for the supporter created Cascadia Cup, to be awarded to the club who finished with the best record in each season series between the three teams. The Cascadia Cup was created to celebrate the strong rivalries between each of the three clubs. Seattle won the Cascadia Cup twice in this five-year period while Portland never won. Seattle was not involved in the 2009 or 2010 competitions, both of which were won by Portland. While both Seattle and Portland consider Vancouver to be a rival, both of the U.S. fanbases consider their rivalries with Vancouver more cordial than with one another.[5] In a 2011 story on the rivalry by Sports Illustrated writer Grant Wahl, one Timbers Army member said about Vancouver fans, "It's hard to dislike them because they're so nice," and an Emerald City Supporters member added, "They're like the nice cousin that's never going to offend anyone at a party."[27] The MLS versions of the Whitecaps, Sounders and Timbers resumed contesting the Cascadia Cup, beginning with the 2011 season.

Results[edit]

Home team is listed on the left, away team is listed on the right. Home team's score is listed first.

      Sounders Win       Timbers Win       Draw

League[edit]

North American Soccer League[edit]

PRE-Western Alliance Challenge Series[edit]

Western Alliance Challenge Series[edit]

Western Soccer Alliance[edit]

Western Soccer League[edit]

American Professional Soccer League[edit]

A-League[edit]

USL First Division[edit]

Major League Soccer[edit]

Playoffs[edit]

North American Soccer League[edit]

A-League[edit]

USL First Division[edit]

Major League Soccer[edit]

U.S. Open Cup[edit]

Notable friendlies[edit]

Footnotes[edit]

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