Sublime with Rome

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Sublime with Rome
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Sublime with Rome performing in Noblesville, Indiana on September 11, 2010.
Background information
Origin California, United States
Genres Reggae Rock
Reggae
Alternative rock
Hip hop
Dub
Years active 2009–present
Labels Fueled by Ramen
Associated acts
Long Beach Dub Allstars
Long Beach Shortbus
Erift
Volcano
The Stiff Richards (Humboldt County)
311
Del Mar
Juice Bros.
Hogan's Heros
Website Official Website
Members Rome Ramirez
Eric Wilson
Josh Freese
Past members Bud Gaugh

Sublime with Rome is a musical collaboration between Eric Wilson (and formerly Bud Gaugh), formerly of the band Sublime, and singer and guitarist Rome Ramirez. The group chiefly performs songs by Sublime, which was fronted by Bradley Nowell until his death in 1996. The suffix "Rome" refers to the singer's first name.

Ramirez began performing with Gaugh and Wilson in 2009, where they played under the name "Sublime", until Nowell's estate issued a legal challenge to the use of the trademarked name for a venture not including Nowell. As a result, they changed their name to "Sublime with Rome" in January 2010. The group played at the 2009 Smokeout Festival and embarked on their first tour in 2010, and released their debut album, Yours Truly, on July 12, 2011.[1][2] Gaugh announced on December 10, 2011 that he had decided to leave the band.[3]

History[edit]

Pre-Sublime with Rome days (1997–2009)[edit]

In 1997 Bud Gaugh and Eric Wilson started Long Beach Dub Allstars, their first project since Bradley Nowell's death. The band played Sublime songs as well as new material. After Long Beach Dub Allstars split up in 2002, Wilson went on to form Long Beach Shortbus, while Gaugh went on to form Eyes Adrift and Volcano (which both featured Meat Puppets guitarist/vocalist Curt Kirkwood).

In February 2009 Gaugh and Wilson reunited for a show in Nevada and called themselves Sublime. They were joined by a new singer-guitarist whose identity was not announced; on March 1, 2009, Gaugh confirmed this was then-20-year-old Northern California native Rome Ramirez, who had previously collaborated with Wilson on RAWsession where he played Sublime songs such a "Saw Red" and "Boss DJ".[4] The trio played another show at Cypress Hill's Smokeout Festival on October 24, 2009 in San Bernardino, California. The festival also featured performances from Kottonmouth Kings, Slipknot, Deftones, Bad Brains and Pennywise.[5]

Lawsuit (2009–2010)[edit]

On October 23, 2009, one day before the Smokeout Festival concert took place, Nowell's family and the executors of his estate threatened Gaugh and Wilson, along with Ramirez, with a lawsuit if the reconstituted band continued to use the Sublime moniker. The statement was posted to the band's official MySpace page and read as follows:

It was recently announced that Sublime bassist Eric Wilson and Sublime drummer Floyd 'Bud' Gaugh are 'reuniting' and teaming with singer and guitarist Rome Ramirez in a band they intend to call 'Sublime.' Prior to his untimely passing, both Bud and Eric acknowledged that Brad Nowell was the sole owner of the name Sublime. It was Brad's expressed intention that no one use the name Sublime in any group that did not include him, and Brad even registered the trademark 'Sublime' under his own name.

As Brad's heirs, and with the support of his entire family, we only want to respect his wishes and therefore have not consented to Bud and Eric calling their new project 'Sublime.' We have always supported Bud and Eric's musical endeavors and their desire to continue to play Sublime's music. We wholeheartedly supported Bud, Eric and the many talented members of the Sublime posse that formed the Long Beach Dub All-Stars, soon after Brad's death, to honor him through their original recordings, live performances and Sublime music until they disbanded in 2001. But, out of respect for Brad's wishes, we have always refused to endorse any group performing as 'Sublime,' and now with great reluctance feel compelled to take the appropriate legal action to protect Brad's legacy.
Our hope is that Brad's ex-bandmates will respect his wishes and find a new name to perform under, so as to enhance the 'Sublime' legacy without the confusion and disappointment that many fans have expressed upon seeing the announcement.[6]

On November 3, 2009, a Los Angeles judge shut down an effort by the new lineup of Sublime to perform under the name. Jeremiah Reynolds, who represents the estate of original Sublime singer Bradley Nowell commented on the case:

The point we tried to make is that we encourage these gentlemen to go out and play. We think they're great musicians. We just don't think it's appropriate to call a group that doesn't have Bradley [Nowell] and has a new lead singer Sublime. It's consistent with Brad’s intentions that we seek to protect the name. The court agreed that Bud and Eric and the new lead singer didn't have the right to go out and call themselves Sublime.[7]

As part of the preliminary injunction, the new lineup are said to be unable to perform or record under the name Sublime without approval and permission from the Nowell estate. A spokesman for Gaugh and Wilson declined to comment. Thomas Brackey, who represents the surviving Sublime members, did not return calls. The injunction is dependent upon a bond of $125,000 being posted in the event it is later determined that the defendants – the surviving Sublime members – suffered damages as a result of the ruling. Reynolds said the bond would be posted. Gaugh and Wilson issued the following statement:

Our goal continues to be sharing the music and message of Sublime with all of our fans around the world. We intend to take the court's advice and work on a business solution to this issue. We hope the estate follows suit so the music of Sublime can live on and be accessible to everyone.

In January 2010, the case was dismissed and it was finally announced that the new lineup of Ramirez, Wilson and Gaugh would perform together under Sublime with Rome.[8]

Subsequent touring and Yours Truly (2010–2011)[edit]

Asked in October 2009 about the future of the project, Gaugh replied:

It'd be great to get back into the studio and make some new music. It'd be great to tour again. But we're taking it a step at a time and as long as each step feels good, then we'll keep on going. One major project under development that we're psyched about is code-named "Brad's House." The idea is to provide free addiction recovery service to underprivileged teens in Brad's honor. The entire Sublime family was devastated by Brad's loss and we would like to help prevent that from happening to others. The band has agreed to allocate proceeds to get this started. We'll begin with one facility but our hope is that we can get other bands and organizations to join us and we can eventually scale it all across the country.[9]

In February 2010, the band confirmed numerous North American dates, as well as plans to tour Europe in May.[10] However, as of June 2010, a European tour in May never came to fruition. Sublime with Rome live shows include Todd Forman on sax and keyboards; Forman was the original sax player on past Sublime studio albums.

Gaugh told Billboard.com that new material from Sublime with Rome was in the cards.[clarification needed] The trio wrote three new songs when it first started playing together in February 2009, including one, "Panic", that was performed at all three shows they had done so far. He explained, "We're gonna continue working on material as we're on the road. It's not without question to have a studio in one of the buses while we're on tour. We do a lot of our best creativity on stage, so we'll be trying out new stuff for the fans, even before we go into the studio."

In May 2010, Gaugh revealed to Billboard.com that Sublime with Rome would enter the studio in June for a week "and nail down some of the more worked-out songs, and possibly even finish one or two of them for a late summer radio release". The band was expected to have the album out in 2011.[1] On February 5, 2011, Sublime with Rome announced on their official website that they were planning to enter the studio in March to begin recording their debut album, with Butthole Surfers guitarist Paul Leary producing.[11] Ramirez had said several collaborations were being considered. "There will be special guests and some collaborations as well, like one with Aimee Allen."[12]

On February 21, 2011 (which happened to be Eric Wilson's 41st birthday), the band posted a statement on their Facebook page saying that they had begun recording the album and would be posting "mad videos" to "let everyone know where to go for a behind the scenes look at the Sublime with Rome process."[13] On April 14, 2011, Ramirez posted an update on Sublime with Rome's official website saying that the album was almost finished and projected a summer release. During the summer 2010 tour, Sublime with Rome performed their first new song "Panic" on Jimmy Kimmel Live!.[14] It was also announced that Sublime with Rome officially signed to record label Fueled by Ramen and released their debut album Yours Truly on July 12, 2011.[15]

Gaugh's departure and beyond (2011–present)[edit]

On December 10, 2011, at the KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas, the band announced that it would be the last performance with drummer Bud Gaugh, who would be leaving the group to spend more time with his family as he was expecting a child. Josh Freese filled in for some performances on a temporary basis, before officially joining the band. On January 12, 2012, in an interview posted on budztv.com,[16] Gaugh expressed regrets about touring and recording with Sublime with Rome stating:

In hindsight I would not have used the name. I didn't want to in the first place, I was talked into it and I would like to apologize to certain people and the fans for trying to justify or talk them into it as well. The recording was awkward, It felt rushed, felt like I was playing someone else's parts/songs. Other than "Panic", "Paper Cuts", and "Safe and Sound", it pretty much was. Some of the parts that were added after the fact really ruined some of the songs for me, for my liking. I also never agreed to do extensive touring for three years straight so that soured me on this thing.[16]

When asked if he saw the band reuniting in the future Gaugh replied, "No, I am done with SWR. I would be into playing music with Eric Wilson, however."[16] When asked how it felt to play Sublime songs again, Gaugh said, "It was really good for the first few months, after that, it just felt wrong. Not playing the songs but playing them with the name Sublime, without Brad."[16]

Despite this, Sublime with Rome continue to tour, with Josh Freese taking Gaugh's place.

Sublime with Rome expects to be back in the studio recording their second album by the end of 2013.[17]

Members[edit]

Current members
Former members
  • Bud Gaugh – drums, percussion (2009–2011)

Tours[edit]

  • Sublime with Rome Tour (2010)
  • 311 Unity Tour (2011)
  • Sublime with Rome/Cypress Hill/Pepper Tour (2012)

Discography[edit]

Albums[edit]

Singles[edit]

Year Title US
Alt

[18]
CAN
Alt

[19]
Album
2011 "Panic" 4 11 Yours Truly
"Take It or Leave It" 23

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b "Sublime, "Born Again, With Rome"". Billboard.com. September 14, 2009. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  2. ^ "[WORLD PREMIERE] Sublime with Rome Release First New Single "Panic"". Kroq.radio.com. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  3. ^ Blackout (December 10, 2011). "Breaking News: Sublime with Rome Drummer Bud Gaugh Leaving Band to Focus on Family – Almost Acoustic Christmas To Be Band's Final Performance". KROQ.com. Retrieved December 11, 2011. 
  4. ^ Del Mar & Sublime. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
  5. ^ Sublime To Reunite For Cypress Hill's Smokeout Fest. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
  6. ^ Sublime Reunion Show Sparks Controversy. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
  7. ^ Judge's ruling could put a damper on a Sublime reunion. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
  8. ^ BREAKING: Sublime Lawsuit Settled; Showdates Planned. Last accessed February 12, 2010.
  9. ^ A Q&A with Sublime founding member/drummer Bud Gaugh[dead link]. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
  10. ^ "Sublime Settles on New Band Name, Plots Tour". Billboard.com. September 14, 2009. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  11. ^ "Sublime with Rome". Sublime with Rome. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  12. ^ "Interview with Rome Ramirez". Music Emissions. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  13. ^ "Niet compatibele browser". Facebook. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  14. ^ "SUBLIME WITH ROME Debut New Song "Panic" on Jimmy Kimmel Live « News «". Puregrainaudio.com. Retrieved September 28, 2011. 
  15. ^ "Sublime with Rome Signs to Fueled by Ramen". Sublime with Rome. Retrieved March 20, 2011. 
  16. ^ a b c d "Bud Gaugh Exclusive Interview by Erik Schaefer of SWRfans.com". budztv.com. Retrieved January 12, 2012. 
  17. ^ "Musical Riot". ieweekly.com. 2013-06-03. Retrieved 2013-06-03. 
  18. ^ "Sublime with Rome Billboard Singles". Allmusic. Retrieved October 23, 2011. 
  19. ^ "Canadian Active Rock & Alt Rock Chart Archive: Alternative Rock - June 21, 2011". America's Music Charts. Retrieved June 21, 2011. 

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