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List of DYK Hooks by Date
Date # of Hooks # Verified
February 7 1
February 8 1
February 26 1
March 4 1
March 13 1 1
March 15 2
March 16 1
March 18 1
March 22 1
March 23 2
March 26 4 1
March 27 1
March 29 1
March 30 1
March 31 1
April 1 2
April 2 2 1
April 3 2
April 4 1
April 8 5 2
April 9 6 3
April 10 4
April 11 4 1
April 12 4 1
April 13 5 2
April 14 4 2
April 15 1
April 16 2 1
April 17 3 1
April 18 6 3
April 19 6
April 20 7 2
April 21 5 2
April 22 6 1
April 23 5 3
April 24 2
April 25 5 2
April 26 3
April 27 8 1
April 28 5 2
April 29 7 2
April 30 8
May 1 10 1
May 2 8 1
May 3 6 2
May 4 7 1
May 5 6 1
May 6 10 4
May 7 5 1
May 8 7
May 9 6 2
May 10 5 1
May 11 26 4
May 12 6 1
May 13 8 3
May 14 9 3
May 15 5 2
May 16 17 5
May 17 8 2
May 18 5 2
May 19 7 2
May 20 7 2
May 21 7 2
May 22 2
Total 315 76
Last updated 18:20, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
Current time is 20:19, May 22, 2015 UTC (purge)


Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e,g, "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.
Post at Template talk:Did you know.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began, not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading—​the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :*<!--Make first comment here--> showing you where you can put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote. In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
  • Paste the hook into the hook area
  • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
  • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
  • change |passed= to |passed=yes
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", and save.

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there is usually a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Leave a comment explaining that the hook was removed from the queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
    • If the day title for the section that contained the hook has been removed from this page, restore that section.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 7[edit]

Michael Potts (diplomat)

Created by Stalwart111 (talk). Self nominated at 06:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC).

  • This article was created and nominated on the same day. Prose is longer than than 1500 characters (2401). Hook is interesting, and has one incline citation. Neutrality is maintained. Symbol confirmed.svg  — ₳aron 17:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Pulled from prep: the hook is not only longer than the DYK maximum, but I find it confusingly written and less effective without the name of the country. Please come up with something more concise. When a new ALT hook has been proposed and this is reviewed again, the reviewer should check for close paraphrasing, since the original review doesn't mention it. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:22, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, which country name is missing?
How about - ALT1 ... that Michael Potts was Australian High Commissioner to PNG during the "shoe episode" and that protesters passed a petition through the High Commission's front gates demanding an apology Australia? - Stlwart111 22:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
  • "Papua New Guinea" is missing; if you want to grab people, a usage like "PNG", even if linked, is going to lessen the effect. Also, the new hook has a grammatical problem, and adding the needed word after "apology" is going to make the hook either borderline or overlong. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • As will extending "PNG" from acronym to proper title. I've edited the hook a couple of times and can't seem to get it right. What would you suggest? Stlwart111 02:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Suggesting the following, which I think still covers the salient details and comes in at 193 characters:
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Need a new reviewer to check this hook, and also do a check for close paraphrasing, which was apparently omitted during the original review. —BlueMoonset (talk) 23:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

comes in at 193 characters:

Alt3 - be brief? Victuallers (talk) 16:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Still needs check of ALT hooks, and also a check for close paraphrasing, which was apparently omitted during the original review. (Note: ALT3 is 142 characters.) BlueMoonset (talk) 16:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough, adequately referenced. No close paraphrasing seen. Page creator has more than 5 DYKs, so a QPQ is needed. However, the article seems more like a series of notes about his diplomatic career, rather than a cohesive biography. There is nothing about his birth, early life, education, or family. In fact, the very first paragraph after the lead dives into some controversy about him, although I don't understand it the way it's written. A section called "Diplomatic Career" should outline his career, not offer three soundbites. His postings to Vietnam, Brunei, Darussalam, Laos, Zambia, Spain, and Austria, mentioned in footnote 10, are inexplicably grouped under "With experience throughout the region". The writer is also making assumptions rather than paraphrasing the sources, as in a sentence cited to footnote 8: how do you know Potts was given responsibility for taking delivery – why couldn't it have been the Brigidier General who was at the ceremony? Meanwhile, ALT3 is incorrect because the protesters demanded an apology from the Prime Minister, not Potts. Yoninah (talk) 21:22, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Happy to address each of those. We simply don't have any details about his birth, education, etc., except what you might be able to find on Facebook or the like. He's not notable for his family life anyway, so I'm not sure that would be relevant. Where it is available, sure we can include it, but it certainly isn't included in his professional biographies. The "diplomatic career" section is about his career as a diplomat, prior to his appointment as an ambassador. The "controversy" in question wasn't about him, per se, but about something he had written. The controversy was that it was leaked but there is no suggestion he leaked it. We could easily change that section to "Early career" or something similar. The section prior summarises his experience in the region - East Timor, PNG, NZ - which then saw him appointed to his first ambassadorial post. Zambia, Spain and Austria are not "in that region" and that's not at all what is suggested. Australia took delivery of those vehicles and he was their representative at that ceremony, therefore he took delivery on their behalf. Happy to change the wording but there are no assumptions there. I wasn't aware I'd reached 5. I'm more than happy to review something else but I've created more than 200 articles and only now reached 5 DYKs, and most of those I was walked through very gently - I'm not particularly familiar with the DYK process. Stlwart111 01:59, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg More than two weeks have elapsed since the last review but no progress has been made with this nomination. @Stalwart111: If you're still working on this, a QPQ is required and a new hook needs to be proposed. Fuebaey (talk) 14:05, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Fuebaey. I explained the issue with regard to QPQ but I'm happy to do that. Is there somewhere with a walk-through so I don't completely ruin someone else's work? I thought ALT2 was okay and I provided responses to the last review but nothing has happened since. Stlwart111 00:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Apologies, I must have missed ALT2 while skimming through. There's a reviewing guide available that may help, and a (less confusing) reviewing checklist to refer to. Just pick an unreviewed nomination from this list and dig in. Feel free to ping me if you need more help. Fuebaey (talk) 01:13, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Superseding most recent icon so this nomination isn't accidentally closed prematurely. This is not a review of any kind (and can't be, since I proposed ALT2). BlueMoonset (talk) 23:34, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Reading the discussion above only the objection of User:Yoninah is holding back the nomination. User:Stalwart111 had responded to the objection but Yoninah hasn't replied yet. If s/he is satisfied with the explanation, and once Stalwart111's QPQ is done with, this could safely proceed. I'm still peeved though by ALT2; I suppose it could be worded more properly. –HTD 18:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I was pretty busy last week and am now coming back to this. I edited the article and added more information from the sources to make it more encyclopedic and to present his biography in chronological order. I added a tag to a sentence to ask which year this occurred; I cannot access the source behind a paywall. @Stalwart111: I am happy to "walk you through" a QPQ; please be in touch on my talk page. Regarding ALT2, I would just end the hook at "shoe episode". Yoninah (talk) 19:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 8[edit]

Borghild Project

  • ... that the Borghild Project was hailed as proof that the Third Reich was building a sex doll for its soldiers, although the existence of this project has been called into question?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nominated at 16:34, 10 February 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svgNewness: Good. Length: Good. Policy: Fine, but I really think you should more strongly emphasize the liklihood that this is a hoax in the lead and in the general tone of the article. Hook is good. QPQ is good. Just polish this and it should be fine. Abyssal (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • @Abyssal: How does it look now? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Actually, I think it should be even more explicit than in your revision. I'll edit the opening sentence. Tell me if you think it's too heavy handed. Abyssal (talk) 03:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
  • @Ktr101:I've made a few more tweaks. Let me know if you're okay with them. Abyssal (talk) 18:36, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Should be good now. Abyssal (talk) 03:59, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg I'm going to substitute one of the "not yet" ticks (I can never remember which is which, exactly) because I really think the article needs more work -- it needs to be clearer that this is a hoax. I don't usually worry too much about article quality at DYK -- it's supposed to be new content -- but this is a bit too embarrassing for WP. EEng (talk) 15:37, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
It says it's a hoax in the first sentence... Abyssal (talk) 18:30, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Actually, it says that the Borghild Project was "the subject of a hoax", as if it's a real thing about which a hoax was perpetrated. Later it says it was "called into question", as if there's some doubt. The final section is headed "Evidence for a hoax", again as if there's some question. And the hook itself uses that phrasing again, "the existence of this project has been called into question". And who "hailed" it? -- there are only two sources in the whole article, so who did the hailing?

(later...) From what I can tell after looking into this briefly is that a short comedic film was make in 2009, The Borghilde Project (note the spelling) and everything comes from that. It doesn't appear to have been a hoax, in that no one I can see was trying to fool anyone -- maybe it's a meme? I don't know, but since both the article, and the sources it uses, don't even seem aware of the film there's something seriously wrong in the presentation. I'm sorry to seem harsh but while it's OK for an article to have gaps, this really leaves the reader with a complete misimpression of the nature of this ... whatever it is. EEng (talk) 19:53, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take a look at it this weekend, as I am busy until then and barely have time to do anything other than work. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:49, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
@Ktr101:?? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
@Panyd: Oh sorry, I meant to write here that I did fix it up a bit two weeks ago, so let me know what you think! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:23, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Ktr, do you have the Ferguson book? If so, what are the cites behind footnotes 1, 2, 3, and 4 starting on page 24? EEng (talk) 23:20, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
I can see the text, but not the footnotes (nos 1,2,3,4). I'd like to know what they say. I hope you don't think I'm being troublesome, but I just want to make sure that we get straight the hoax vs. serious aspect, and if it's actually a hoax, where it came from. EEng (talk) 15:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I cannot see the book's end pages, so I wonder if we can get someone in a WikiProject who might have the book to look over it for us. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:19, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Not surprisingly, Boston Public Library has it, but unfortunately I'm going up the Amazon today and won't be back until May 15 or 20 (depending on the annual anaconda migration). EEng (talk) 13:16, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Damn, I wish I could have known this last weekend, as I was just in Boston on Sunday. Do you want to wait until then, or assume good faith? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

1965 Soviet economic reform

5x expanded by Groupuscule (talk). Self nominated at 22:17, 1 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg confirmed 5x expansion, prose size (14k characters) & article seems within policy. Hook is fine, albeit with a slightly different wording and offline source, so assuming good faith. The following might have been possible as well—
    ALT3: ... that the 1965 Soviet economic reform was not politically correct?
—which is more concise but if no one else has an opinion the primary hook is good to go. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There appears to be some copying from an online, uncited source (Glenn E. Curtis, ed. Russia: A Country Study. Washington: GPO for the Library of Congress, 1996.), from this page. The bulk of the first paragraph under "The Economy under Brezhnev" has been split up and reused in three places in this article, one of which comprises the entire "Political reorganization" section. There's no way the nomination can be allowed on the main page in its current shape. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello comrades, thanks for the comments. BlueMoonset, that's a good catch. In the spirit of collaboration I usually like to leave some of the original text of an article, even when I do a big expansion, but in this case the results were not best. (Technically it is cited and comes from a public domain source—but still it's not ideal.) Also, in this case, it would be desirable to have more information on the political reorganization which took place, a concept which I admit was murky in the available English sources. I will happily rectify this issue if you'll permit me a few days. (Would you be so kind as to highlight other problematic parts of the text beyond this sentence?)
AdamBMorgan, I am charmed by your alternative hook and think it would be fine to use. do svidaniya, groupuscule (talk) 05:29, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Groupuscule, here's a Duplication detector report that highlights all the problematic material from that source; the first four phrases are the ones that need to be dealt with, sometimes including prior or subsequent words that are not exact matches but still close paraphrasing. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:00, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Most recent changes should do the trick. groupuscule (talk) 08:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New review request to check if issues have been resolved. Fuebaey (talk) 16:12, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Those footnotes needs to be fixed. Long quotations for so many sources is just excessive, I would suggest that many of those footnotes should be removed. If you are confident about the source and its existence, then you don't need anything else. Footnotes are for emergency, I think it would be fair to keep footnote for the only the main hook. I find ALT2 to be better. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 05:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]

Nautical fiction

Created by Sadads (talk), User:Rwood128, and User:Mad Hatter. Self nominated at 12:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This looks promising and seems technically ok but I'm not liking either of the hooks. The first hook makes a strong claim for The Pilot which just seems to be the opinion of particular critics while the second makes some fuzzy claims for sub-genres which also seem too opinionated. Please see English/British Naval History to 1815: A Guide to the Literature which has a long chapter about nautical fiction and which summarises several analyses such as The Sea in English Literature and which says "Many have placed the famous Anglo-Saxon poem as an early sea story". Perhaps the comment about there being at least twenty Nelson clones – Bolitho, Hornblower, & co. – might make a hook? More anon. Andrew D. (talk) 13:20, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks for the additional source @Andrew D:: unfortunately, I am having to put a hold on developing this article until this summer; I am overloaded with several work, life, and Wikimedia work. In part, I am trying to distinguish between the scope of this article (which is exclusively looking at prose-based fiction that developed as a distinct focus on nautical experience/topics) as opposed to the more general Sea in culture which discusses how the theme of oceanic travel is found throught literary record (the A-S poetry for instance). In part I am wading into a debate, but its a debate where everyone agrees that the conventional definition of nautical fication is the "sea novel" from the Marryat-Cooper, Moby Dick-Conrad, Forestor/O'Brian line of fiction, but then each scholar tries to expand the definition to include a much wider set of material for individual studies without any of these further definitions really agreeing. For a Wikipedia article, I think the conventional scope is enough, with a larger "Sea in literature" article relevant as an intermediary between the Sea and Culture and Nautical fiction article in scope. I would appreciate if you tried working in the material to the articles! Sadads (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment I would have tried.., Did you know that Nautical fiction goes back thousands of years to works such as Homers Odyssey, but is considered in modern times to have begun with James Fenimore Coopers, The Pilot..? But there aren't references. My computer time is limited so I can only make the suggestion and leave it to ye're selves. @Andrew Davidson, Sadads, Rwood128, and Mad Hatter: ~ R.T.G 14:01, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @RTG: I will take care of this next week, been traveling alot for GLAM-Wiki 2015 and other TWL activities. I have some time this next week (hopefully) to follow up on this. Sadads (talk) 02:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment Hope you don't mind that I just disambiguated "The Pilot" in the original hook in case some version of it should be used. Also Moby Dick is spelled Moby-Dick in the WP article, and the links to the other titles are to redirected pages. Shouldn't links in a DYK be direct (or piped) when possible? w.carter-Talk 20:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
ALT2:... that some of the most popular nautical fiction works, including those about Horatio Hornblower and Jack Aubrey, were based upon the real adventures of the "sea wolf" – Lord Cochrane?
@Andrew Davidson: I like the alt! Definitely fits our scope, and does a good job; I did a few small tweaks from "classic nautical fiction" to "popular nautical fiction": some people would argue that the idea of a "classic of a genre" is misleading, in that infers some type of cannonical value in literature more generally (as if modelling it). O'Brian is creeping his way into the literary canon because of his style, themes, and the intertextual referenciality (its very post-modern thematically and representationally, despite the Austen-like prose) , but I would be very surprised if we ever see a consensus on Hornblower as a "classic". Thanks for the patience and the williness to help find a hook/sourcesSadads (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • What! Hornblower not a classic? My world just shattered. w.carter-Talk 18:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @W.carter: Hahaha! Indeed! The hornblower novels tend to be used as evidence for popularity, and changes in the genre, but rarely treat them as more than "popular reads"; on the other hand O'Brian and most of the other authors in the article (except, perhaps Marryatt) often get additional analysis outside of the cultural studies/pop culture context. Its kind of how I would love to be able to call David Edding's Belgariad as "classic" fantasy, in that I have met a number of people who love it, found it a very accessable introduction to the genre, and its one of their favorite recommendations for people, but you will never see it listed on the "best fantasy lists" alongside Discworld, Wheel of Time or Lord of the Rings, and hardly ever see it included in the critical discussions of fantasy fiction. Sadads (talk) 18:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed; since Andrew D. provided ALT2, he can't also review it. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I like the ALT2 hook. I'm assuming it refers to information in the second paragraph under "masculinity and heroism", which has an inline citation. However, I couldn't see where Thomas Cochrane was referred to as Lord Cochrane or the "sea wolf" in the text. Would those need to be included for this hook to comply? SojoQ (talk) 00:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

A new reviewer has arrived Symbol voting keep.svg

I will be reviewing this article according to WP:WIADYK
New  Pass
a) Article created 18:11, 26 January 2015. Given the nomination date of 7 March, it fails this sub-criteria. Green tickY As shown by Fuebaey article was a draft and moved to mainspace on 3 March, article falls within this category.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
b) As a non-new article the article must be expanded fivefold within seven days of the date listed as nominated, therefore I have to evaluate the change in the article for a seven day period, in this case from 7 March (per the nominators claimed start date of expansion on 7 March per

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began, not the date on which you make the nomination.

to 14 March.
(Honestly it appears that expansion actually began on 3 March with this edit which would have made the evaluation period between 3 and 10 March.)
Given this 7 to 14 March period, the article began at 17123 characters of prose (embedded list do not count for expansion purposes) and was expanded to 21871 characters of prose, meaning that the article was expanded by 27%.
c) YesY Article was not an unsourced BLP
d) YesY Article was not worked on exclusively in the talk page, or at article for creation, or in a draft namespace Green tickY Article was in draft space from between 26 January to 3 March 2015. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
e) YesY Article does not appear to have been on the main page on "in the news" or "on this day" sections.
f) YesY Article does not appear to have been translated from another wiki
g) YesY Article is not a Good Article, nor was it promoted within the past seven days of the nomination
-pause/break in review- --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:05, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Long enough  Pass
a) Green tickY Article is greater than 1500 characters of prose.
b) Green tickY Content as of 14 March does not appear to have any public domain content
c) Green tickY Not a primarily list article
ALT 1 Cited hook  No pass
a) Green tickY Although the hook elements are through out the article
b) Not all elements are cited in the 14 March version of this article
ALT 2 Cited hook  Pass
a) Green tickY Hook contained within the running sentence

However, as the genre has developed, models of masculinity and the nature of male heroism in sea novels vary greatly: the Marryat's heroes focus on gentleman-liness modeled off ideal captains like Thomas Cochrane and Horatio Nelson; Forester's Hornblower is a model hero, presenting bravery, but inadequate at life ashore and beyond the navy and with limited emotional complexity; while O'Brian's Jack Aubrey and Stephen Maturin model complex masculinities built around their friendship, a tension between naval life and shore life, and complex passions and character flaws.

b) Green tickY Hook cited to a reference "Susan Bassnett "Cabin'd Yet Unconfined: Heroic Masculinity in English Seafaring Novels" in Klein 'Fictions of the Sea"; while it is preferred that a source be readily available for a reader to be online, there is no requirement for a reliable source to be online.
Within policy yellow tickY Partly done No apparent copyright violations observed, no major verifiability issues apparent, except for a sentence in the "Women and the sea" section and a paragraph in the definition section ("For the sake of this article..."). Article does not have any neutrality issues that I have observed, or that have been brought up.  Pass Parts of article not provided proper citations were either given citations, or removed, and citations were added to the article scope paragraph per WP:BURDEN.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Review requirement (QPQ)  Pass Initial editor did review another article as stated, see diff
Hook ALT 1  Pass
Article is bolded, has an asterisk, is 182 characters, is not based on a non-English source.
Hook appears to be relevant, neutral, not negative to a living person, not about an election candidate, is not about a fictional character.
Hook ALT 2  Pass
Article is bolded, has an asterisk, is 185 characters, and is not based on a non-English souce. However, the nickname "Sea Wolf" for Lord Cochrane is not included in this article directly referring to Lord Cochrane. "Sea Wolf" nickname added on 11 May.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hook appears to be relevant, neutral, not negative to a living person, not about an election candidate, is not about a fictional character.
Images No images provided. YesY
As the article being nominated, for the period which it was nominated from does not meet the fivefold criteria, I cannot pass this nomination. Better luck next time.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:56, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
@RightCowLeftCoast: Please note that this article was moved to mainspace on the 4 March and nominated three days later. Fuebaey (talk) 01:54, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm also frankly puzzled by the references to the state of the article or hooks as of March 14. Although a nomination must be made within seven days of an article's creation in mainspace or expansion there, content, sourcing, and so on should reflect the current state of the article. What matters is whether the article is neutral and free of copyvio/close paraphrasing now, not its state nearly two months ago. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
@Fuebaey: I did not notice that, as it was marked as a minor edit. I have updated that section of the criteria evaluation above.
@BlueMoonset: Even looking at the current article, the current article does not refer to Lord Cochrane as his nickname anywhere in the article, therefore either ALT 2 needs to be edited, or that content added to the article. Furthermore those verifiability issues remain as mentioned above. The following almost entire paragraph is uncited:

Hanley's novel takes place mainly at sea, unlike Conrad's. The Sea Road by Margaret Elphinstone is a sea novel by a woman and her protagonist is also a woman. The Sea Road tells the story of the Viking discovery of North America, around 1000 A.D., from a woman's point of view. Star-Crossed by Linda Collison, published by Alfred A. Knopf in 2006, tells the story of a young English woman who becomes a surgeon's mate at sea during the Seven Years' War. The New York Public Library chose Star-Crossed to be among the "Books for the Teen Age" in 2007. New Zealand maritime historian and novelist Joan Druett has written extensively about women at sea in nonfiction works like Hen Frigates, Wives of Merchant Captains Under Sail (1998), Petticoat Whalers: Whaling Wives at Sea (1991) and Eleanor's Odyssey (2014). She has also written a nautical, historical crime fiction series called "Wiki Coffin" , which is set during the United States Navy's United States Exploring Expedition through the Pacific Ocean 1838–1842. Female authors Margaret Muir, Susan Keogh, Eva Ulett, Ann Victoria Roberts, are also noted for their historical fiction set at sea.

The following are not cited, who says those are "important British novelist":

Another important British novelist who wrote about life at sea was William Golding (1911–1993). He served in the Royal Navy during World War II and his novel Pincher Martin (1956) records the delusions experienced by a drowning sailor in his last moments. Golding's trilogy To the Ends of the Earth is about sea voyages to Australia in the early nineteenth century.

  1. When do Wikipedians get to define the scope of subjects without using pre-defined scopes based on reliable sources?

    For the sake of this article, and to limit its scope this article opts not to include the broader definitions of sea or maritime literature, which frequently accompanies more thematic discussions of nautical topics in culture. Instead, the focus is on the more limited sea/nautical novel and the fiction that grows out of that set of generic expectations. In so doing, we highlight what most critics describe as the more conventional definition for the genre.

Fix those things and the nomination should be good to go. Until then, I will upgrade my overall tag, but this has not yet passed muster IMHO.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

@RightCowLeftCoast:I have responded above in line, I think that should fix everything (including the cochrane "Sea Wolf" citation). Let me know if there is anything elseSadads (talk) 23:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

@Sadads: Please do not respond in-line, as a non-involved editor may have difficulty seeing where the responses begin, and where my reply ends. Please provide diffs to show the changes made to the article to remedy this issues I brought up in this review. Looking forward to a response. Thanks in advance.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:29, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
@RightCowLeftCoast: Moved responses to items, and number them in your comment so we know what we are talking about:
  1. Fixed That was added since I nominated, definitely not useful, IMHO. Sadads (talk) 23:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  2. Fixed These are uncontroversial summaries of the novels, but have added references for the sake of this review.Sadads (talk) 23:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  3. Because we are using the least common denominator: the bit that every scholar starts with, and then tries to expand into a broader definition. I have added citations to the authors which I am drawing the consensus from (there are others, but I don't have the time to pull them right now). Its meta-commentary, that normally would go in a footnote if there were a longer definition of the scope of the article; limiting scope makes sense, especially when there is another article Sea in culture which discusses the broader scope these other authors are talking about in some detail.Sadads (talk) 23:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
@RightCowLeftCoast:Can we pass this DYK review? As far as I understand WP:WIADYK none of these should have prevented the article from going to DYK: they are small cleanup items, due in the long term, not something to prevent meeting Criteria #4, Sadads (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg I have updated my review above. I am still concerned about the following sentence in the article:

For the sake of this article, and to limit its scope this article opts not to include the broader definitions of sea or maritime literature, which frequently accompanies more thematic discussions of nautical topics in culture. Instead, the focus is on the more limited sea/nautical novel and the fiction that grows out of that set of generic expectations. In so doing, we highlight what most critic describe as the more conventional definition for the genre.

It makes it appear that the definition of the scope is being defined by wikipedia, and not by what reliable sources state. That being said all other issues I have brought up have been resolved.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry @RightCowLeftCoast: I have been really busy IRL, and with WP:TWL: completely missed the response.
I made a change to focus on consensus in the language to clear up the issue of explicit decision making above; in part, there has to be metacritical discussion about this definition like that paragraph, because as encyclopedists, attempting to summarize the field, even when relying on the opinions of the different voices, requires a small series of weight of opinion decisions that should be transparent. For this genre, everyone in the scholarship is trying to redefine the genre, name of the genre or what works are included in it, even though they agree on the consensus assumptions/understandings described in the first paragraph of that section. Its absolutely bizarre and largely a matter of semantics used to start academic conversations (and this is the problem of working with broad scope articles: assuming that anything below a Featured article, can actually objectively cover the topic).
However, it would be unfair to the Wikipedia readers, if that disclaimer wasn't in the article: because a consensus on how big the definition should grow or if it should grow doesn't seem to exist, beyond that initial set of assumptions. Unfortunately, with cultural subjects like this about a genre, that doesn't have a well defined scholarly conversation (there are a few books, but they take it in several different directions, rather than respond to eachother), the need for some decision making happens, but needs to be highlighted in the article itself, so that we aren't pulling the wool over our reader's eyes. If there were a definitive work defining the genre, I would most certainly be using it; but as of yet, I haven't found one :P Maybe, if I go back for a PhD in a few years, I will make it a dissertation topic, Sadads (talk) 13:52, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for attempting to clear that up Sadads. As I am not as familiar with with genre definitions in this field of knowledge, I will take your word on it (as it is still clear as mud to me) but perhaps someone for WP:LIT, can comment on this, as they are the subject matter experts.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
@RightCowLeftCoast: Thank you for your thoughtfulness, but I am pretty sure myself, and the other few people working on the article are going to be your most knowledgeable members of Lit, WP:Novels or WP:Children's lit for this particular topic (and we have briefly discussed this issue on Talk:Nautical fiction) When/if I get up to GA review or something similar, yes that should prevent passing; but for DYK: this shouldn't slow the nomination; I don't see how it prevents the nomination/article from meeting that criteria. Its been more than 3 months since nomination, and over 2 months since initial review. Can we please just end the review? You already mentioned that it doesn't prevent meeting the DYK requirements: thus it should pass! Having the article in the DYK section would be a brilliant way to solicit comments (its part of the reason we encourage new articles to go through DYK: to get more eyes on them). The last couple DYK's I have submitted or helped submit have had a very disappointing review process: its been extended over minor details in the article, when 2 years ago, they would have passed, and the reviewer would have started a discussion on the talk page which the DYK on the front page would have brought more viewers. I recently was alarmed by the graph at File:Wikipedia_account_age_of_average_edit_by_registered_user.png; I think this slowing in DYKs is a partial contributor to the decline in new users becoming strong long-term editors: I used to co-nominate articles from new users with reasonably good work to DYK, because it was a low-scrutiny/high return way to get initial feedback, visibilty of the article, and some minor editing and talkpage feedback from other users. Anyway: again I am going to highlight my main concern: this is not preventing passing DYK criteria, can we please just wrap it up? Sadads (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Please see this diff. As stated above, I marked my review above with DYKtickAGF, even though I have my concern about that paragraph. Therefore, even with my concern it passes almost all of DYK criteria. Thus, I believe that the energy displayed above is misdirected.
I am sorry if there is frustration with DYK, compared to others who review DYK, when I do reviews, I believe anyone can see that I go in-depth with the process, and take it seriously. It is my view that my review length is not wrong, but shows how much time I am willing to devote to a proper review.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)












Articles created/expanded on March 13[edit]

Nina Starr Braunwald

Dr Nina Starr Braunwald in 1962

Created by ChandniJP (talk). Nominated by Hildabast (talk) at 02:41, 19 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Hook is good, sourced from [1]. Old enough; nominated 6 days after creation. Long enough, conservatively 1600+ characters of non-public-domain readable prose. The article is generally well sourced with sufficent inline citations. QPQ not required, as neither nominator nor author have had previous DYKs. Image is public domain. I'm not sure how to check "rollover text" on the image. However, I'm not seeing attribution for public domain source. Provide attribution, and perhaps provide "rollover text" (I have no idea what that is so don't know how to check) and you're good to go in my book. This is my first review, so it'd be appreciated if an experienced reviewer could check my work. --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 22:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Great - thanks, so much for your time! This is my first time at this too. I don't see anything about attribution or the source in the rollover text of the other images including DYK currently on Wikipedia. Is it necessary? It's the image on the page, so you can see all that by clicking through to Wikimedia Commons in the usual way.Hildabast (talk) 22:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
The source is given in the Commons page, so that should be in order. There aren't any requirements for rollover text that I could find. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 22:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
  • @Hildabast and Antony-22:(edit conflict) As in, the page itself uses lots of public domain content in the prose and that needs attribution. If you want to drop the image, you won't need to provide rollover text; "rollover text" is required for nominations with images per DYK guide. --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 22:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I see. Well, it has rollover text. You're saying you want me to edit the whole text to remove any close paraphrasing? I'll hunt through to find the bits that are affected then. Hildabast (talk) 22:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
You don't need to change anything—you just need to add the appropriate template from Category:United States government attribution templates. I think it would be Template:NLM content in this case. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 22:45, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
That's great! Thank you very much! Yes, it was NLM. I've done that.Hildabast (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Attribution has been added. Hook is good, sourced from [2]. Old enough; nominated 6 days after creation. Long enough, conservatively 1600+ characters of non-public-domain readable prose. The article is generally well sourced with sufficent inline citations. QPQ not required, as neither nominator nor author have had previous DYKs. Image is public domain. I'm not sure how to check "rollover text" on the image. Again, though, could another DYK reviewer sanity-check this review, as it is my first? Cheers, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 23:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Some of the phrasing in this article is too close to the source, and should be either quoted directly or rephrased. For example, "to provide salary and direct experimental support for women cardiac surgical trainees who wish to acquire investigational skills" is quite close to "to provide salary and/or direct experimental support for women cardiac surgical trainees who wish to acquire investigational skills". Nikkimaria (talk) 14:35, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Isn't that what the public domain attribution is for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hildabast (talkcontribs) 15:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
The public domain attribution applies only to sources in the public domain, like the National Library of Medicine website; other sources in the article (like this one from which the quote above is taken) are copyrighted and so are not covered by that attribution. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:34, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I've fixed the (mostly minor) instances of close paraphrasing from all the online, non-paywalled sources. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 21:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
@ChandniJP: This is such a great hook, I'm tempted to approve it on good faith based on the previous comments, but the original author is the one who has access to the paywall sources, so (personally) I'd need to hear from them that they've done a double-check. --Rosekelleher (talk) 21:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I checked all of the sources except for these two that I could not access: It will work: the first successful mitral valve replacement and Use of tissue culture techniques to evaluate new materials developed to serve as artificial heart linings. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 20:59, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg I reckon this DYK nomination is now OK. I removed the single lengthy sentence cited to the second source queried above because it very much duplicated the previous sentence, referenced to a different source. The image is in the public domain and I think all the other DYK requirements are now met. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)












Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]

Magnus Sinus

The 11th Asian regional map from Ptolemy's Geography (Harleian MS 7182).

  • ALT1:... that European cartographers initially considered the Pacific Ocean to be Ptolemy's Great Gulf?
  • ALT2:... that Roman geographers knew of the Great Gulf thanks to a Greek merchant who traveled to East Asia and back again?
  • Reviewed: Will do. Gimme a sec. Car dooring

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self nominated at 14:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Have you got better source than this? OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 07:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
@LlywelynII:? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:09, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I have notified on UTP, many editors have disabled notification that are made through userlinks. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 04:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)



Froberg mutiny

Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Self nominated at 23:57, 19 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nice start, but it fails to cite sources with inline citations. I'll contact you on your talk page to see if you can address this. Viriditas (talk) 19:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Something cited to the timesofmalta.com reference, rather than a book, would make it easier for us to verify. Subjectively, IMHO a more interesting hook would be the five mutineers forced by the British to hang five other mutineers, or that the fort is threatened by coastal erosion. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, and long enough, but the referencing needs a lot of work. Many long paragraphs have no cites whatsoever and there is close paraphrasing. A hook such as ALT2: ... that the Froberg mutiny has been considered as the most serious mutiny during the Napoleonic Wars? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 23:26, 16 May 2015 (UTC)












Articles created/expanded on March 16[edit]

Osorkon IV

Improved to Good Article status by Khruner (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 20:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article promoted to GA status on 16 March 2015. Every paragraph is sourced. QPQ was performed. The only problem is that content of the hook is not cited to a reliable source within the article. In the article it states, "Shortly after, Osorkon IV and his dynasty vanished into obscurity", but no source is present to verify this. NORTH AMERICA1000 01:41, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Look at the end of the next sentence, I assume.  — ₳aron 09:04, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi Calvin999: Per WP:WIADYK, section 3B, to qualify, "Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact" (underline emphasis mine). Since these are the rules, I can't buck them. NORTH AMERICA1000 09:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello, I was summoned here, sorry for the delay. The source is at the end of the next sentence, but I dare to suggest a different hook. I mean, "vanished into obscurity" as a hook seems vague to me; Osorkon IV did not literally vanished into obscurity (obviously) and anyhow, he was not famous for that (he was not famous at all). I don't know... May I suggest something other, like "...Osorkon IV saved his kingdom with a dozen horses?" Khruner (talk) 18:23, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that Osorkon IV saved his kingdom with a dozen horses?
(posted per the comment directly above). NORTH AMERICA1000 22:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on March 18[edit]

Raghunath Temple

Raghunath Temple in Jammu

  • ... that the Raghunath Temple (pictured), in Jammu, was attacked twice in 2002 by suicide bombers causing death of security forces and devotees offering worship, as well as many injuries?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nominated at 03:48, 19 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: Subsequent to posting on DYK it has been promoted to GA.
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This is a fivefold expansion and also qualifies for DYK as a newly promoted GA. It is long enough and new enough and the image is in the public domain. I added an extra inline citation for one of the hook facts. The article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:36, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Claim that the attacks were by "suicide bombers" unsupported by any of the cited sources. The only source for the first attack calls the attackers "militants" and says that "hurled grenades and sprayed bullets on security personnel and bystanders". The terms used for the attackers and descriptions of their actions is inconsistent with a claim of a suicide attack. Sources for the second attack show the same problem with the attackers being described as terrorists and militants. The closest thing to a source supporting the suicide bomber claim for teh second attack is this news article which refers to the event as a "fidayeen attacks on two temples" while calling the attackers themselves "militants". Wikipedia's article on fedayeen also does not support an interpretation of suicide attacker, indicating "assassin" and "freedom fighter" as being equally valid English equivalents. --Allen3 talk 13:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  • An additional reference was introduced in between the other references during the DYK approval stage to verify the hook. However, I had used the Fedayeen word as it was used in the Times of India reference, the best news paper reference in India. In the Tribune news paper reference, the Director-General of Police, Mr A.K. Suri, had said the militants belonged to a suicide squad of the Pakistan-based militant outfit Lashkar-e-Toiba. I had also verified the Wikipage on Fedayeen, under section "origin" which mentions "dāʼīyīn as the plural of fidāʼī, which means "sacrifice."It is widely understood in the Arab world to mean those willing to sacrifice themselves for God." I was not aware that English usage for "suicide attacker is not as "assassin" and "freedom fighter". I stand corrected. In view of your opinion I have now made changes in the text in the article by removing the objectionable words of Fedayeen and suicide bombers. I have modified the hook as

ALT1 ... that the Raghunath Temple (pictured), in Jammu, was attacked twice in 2002 by terrorists causing death of security forces and devotees offering worship, as well as many injuries?

I hope you will now find it in order. Thanks.--Nvvchar. 01:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on March 22[edit]

Game larder

Game larder at Uppark, West Sussex, designed by Humphry Repton

  • ... that Humphry Repton's game larder (pictured) at Uppark, described as "a mannered grotesque advertisement for the pleasures of the chase and the table", is decorated with deer vertebrae?
  • ALT1:... that Humphry Repton's game larder (pictured) at Uppark is decorated with deer vertebrae?
  • ALT2:... that Humphry Repton's game larder (pictured) at Uppark has been described as "a mannered grotesque advertisement for the pleasures of the chase and the table"?
  • Reviewed: To come
  • Comment: I prefer the composite version, but two shorter alternatives are offered if this is deemed too long.

Created by Espresso Addict (talk). Self nominated at 01:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Espresso Addict: This well-written article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts have an inline citation to a book source and are accepted in good faith. Any of the hooks could be used. The image is appropriately licensed but looks better enlarged than it does at thumbnail size. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues, so we are just waiting for the QPQ to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2015 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on March 23[edit]

Casey Abrams (album)

Reinhart (left) and Abrams (right) performing at a concert together in 2014.

  • Comment: Article created in my userspace on December 19, 2014, moved to the mainspace on March 23, 2015.

Moved to mainspace by Jpcase (talk). Self nominated at 14:35, 24 March 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg On Writing and recording you have presented just too many views of Casey Abrams, it almost reads like we are reading about him. You may want to cleanup some of the quotes. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 06:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)





Early 35 kDa protein

  • ... that the viral Early 35 kDa protein is a universal inhibitor of programmed cell death or apoptosis?

Created by Shinryuu (talk). Self nominated at 21:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New and long enough. Clinical significance section needs a ref, otherwise within policy. QPQ not needed. Spot checks reveal no close paraphrasing. Hook is boring; I think one about its potential use in gene therapy would be more interesting. Just needs the extra ref and a new hook to pass. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 20:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: I've added an in-line citation to the section about apoptosis. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:11, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
  • That's not what I meant; the second paragraph from the bottom needs a reference. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 20:32, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm currently on vacation but will address these issues as soon as I'm back. Thanks for reviewing! Shinryuu (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on March 26[edit]

Alan Clark (businessman)

5x expanded by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:31, 2 April 2015 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - The "second largest" part of the hook is not referenced in the article.
  • Interesting: Green tickY

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg Interesting article; hopefully the issue can be cleared up so we can feature this. --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:08, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

  • I was previously advised that Earwig's Copyvio Detector had been deprecated for this purpose. Anyway, I've compared the article to the Bloomberg source and can't see any issues. QPQ now done. Source added. Edwardx (talk) 12:41, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
    Its a tool, just like any other - human judgement is required. And in my judgement, I am uncomfortable with the level of similarity between our article and bloomberg and bdlive. As an example:
Source (bdlive): He recalls being intimidated by Mr Mackay and the large interview panel but was attracted by the "very enquiring" minds at the company.
Our article: Clark remembers being intimidated by Mackay and the large panel but was drawn by their "very enquiring" minds. H
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Changing a few words to synonyms is within the definition of close paraphrasing. None-the-less, I will ask a third party to take a look in case I am mistaken. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
I agree that the highlighted phrasing is a bit too close, but beyond that there are few problems (just FN5), so this should be fairly easy to fix. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:15, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Close paraphrasing, now identified by two reviewers, needs to be taken care of. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I believe the close paraphrasing has been dealt with now. Edwardx (talk) 23:39, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your work so far, though perhaps a bit more distance would be appropriate - one way to achieve this would be to integrate sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:08, 13 May 2015 (UTC)


In silico clinical trials

  • ... that in the future virtual pharmaceuticals may be tested on virtual patients in In silico clinical trials before the real drugs are tested on real people in real clinical trials?

Created by MattAtAvicenna (talk). Self nominated at 12:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg There isn't a specific sentence that can be pointed to for the hook - it is basically the entire idea of the article, but am inclined to let it pass... In addition to the above comment, try to avoid using language like "if we could..." - an article should not be written in the first person. --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

  • @MattAtAvicenna: - without a response soon this is closing time. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Panyd: - I think the article is no longer new enough for a did you know nomination anyway. Am I right? I assume that is why the comments are on this page?

Bitch Better Have My Money

Created by Tomica (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 20:48, 28 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Well this one's been sitting for some time. New (26th), long enough, neutral, no copyvio found via spot check, QPQ done. Hook checks out in its immediate ref. Other thoughts: "according to Deputy, that's the time when he knew what the name of the song is gonna be" should be written in encyclopedic style. Her first single from the album is overlinked. And quotations are used to excess—many can/should be paraphrased. czar  13:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I copy-edited/removed some of the quotations and fixed the overlinking. There are enough quotes in my opinion now tbh. — Tom(T2ME) 12:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
As long as it's under discussion, the quotes used towards the end of the article are almost all candidates for paraphrase. If it can be paraphrased without losing the meaning of a sentence, WP requires reduction of non-free content. – czar 15:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)




I Am Wrath

Created by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self nominated at 11:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC).

  • When "Captain Assassin" creates "I am Wrath", we all better watch out. EEng (talk) 17:50, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I always like running into you, C.A. EEng (talk) 15:09, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
You should be more careful then, I'm an Assassin. Remember? Don't force me to do something wrong with you. I've so many hidden ways. Face-grin.svg --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
  • spelling niggle how about "after his wife's murder?" or "after his wife is murdered"
(first attempt at doing a review, so I beg everybody's forbearance) the is article new, hook is under 200 words, the fact that Travolta's wife in the film is murdered is supported by an inline refererence, however the reference only says that Travolta's character seeks revenge, would be nice if a reference can be found with the line "I am Wrath" Directly tied to the character.--KTo288 (talk) 19:19, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Since the idea of April 1st is to mislead how about ... that, because of his wife's murder, John Travolta has become Wrath? --KTo288 (talk) 20:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
@KTo288: I've rephrased the hook to a better shape now. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 14:33, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Like it. EEng (talk) 15:09, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Checking through the sources, and so far everything seems to be okay, dupe detector shows up occurances of matching words, but I am convinced this is innocent, it is impossible for anyone to write about film without using some of the technical terms of the industry. Facts stated in the article match those in sources. All sources use words along the lines of "Travolta seeks revenge after corrupt cops fail to catch his wife's murderer." and it probably comes from a press release by the production company, that will probably be used as its tagline. Rather than paraphrasing like mad to try and avoid using the same words, it may be better to try and find the original release (company website?) quoting it verbatim and attributing it as a quote.--KTo288 (talk) 12:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
@KTo288: I would say, better leave the quote. Just proceed it without that. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:12, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
No problem , what they did have on the one company website I found was far too long to be used.--KTo288 (talk) 17:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
@KTo288: Are you passing it then or is there a problem? --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 18:21, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Chickening out of passing, I'm new to this and would appreciate a more experienced pair of eyes to go over it and see if I've missed anything.--KTo288 (talk) 19:27, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Needs a full review, first reviewer is new here. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:40, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've stuck the hook, which might or might not have been okay for April Fool's Day, but is clearly not acceptable for regular DYK. Also, a QPQ review will have to be supplied for this nomination to proceed further. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Captain Assassin!, since Travolta's wife has not been murdered, the hook is unacceptable; it's why I struck it in the first place. (You might be able to get away with conflating Travolta's real and fictional wife on April Fool's, but not otherwise.) You will need to supply a new, different hook. There can't be a review without a hook. (If you meant to above, I don't see anything new.) BlueMoonset (talk) 23:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that the development of the upcoming film I Am Wrath was halted in February 2013 and begin again right after two years?
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed for ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 19:20, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The ALT2 hook facts have inline citations, the article is neutral and it is within policy. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]

Roberto Firmino

Firmino in 2014

5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self nominated at 07:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Thanks for improving this article. Unfortunately, it's a tad bit short for DYK - the previous revision was 1023 chars but the current revision is only 4366 chars long. For 5x, 5115 chars will be required. If you manage to expand this within the next 7 days, ping me and I'll take another gander. Fuebaey (talk) 12:34, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Also it's a really un-interesting fact. GiantSnowman 15:48, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Now it is as long as the requirement, @Fuebaey:. @GiantSnowman: And I would like to change the hook to

RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 09:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Sorry for the late response, been away this past week. I've made a copyedit pass to add some minor details and address some redundancy. With that I'm afraid, I can no longer review this nomination. Best of luck nonetheless. There's scope for expansion in his 13/14 season if you need more length. Fuebaey (talk) 19:33, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg QPQ has not been supplied, and must be for this nomination to continue. Please supply a QPQ at your earliest convenience. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
@Panyd: See Template:Did you know nominations/Deepika Padukone filmography. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 16:05, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Royroydeb, Please be sure to do a different QPQ for Badshahi Mosque, then, since you've also listed this QPQ there. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I didnt notice. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:14, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Just popping by to say another editor has gutted most of this article. Needs an extensive rewrite to appear on DYK. Fuebaey (talk) 06:22, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article had 1023 prose characters before expansion; currently, after a great deal of material was removed by GiantSnowman as "trivial and unencyclopedic" (according to the GA review, which closed as unsuccessful), it's at 2210 prose characters, barely a 2x expansion. Unless a great deal of new, non-trivial material can be added in the next week or so, the nomination won't be able to survive. Perhaps the thing to do is to work on the article gradually until it does successfully become a good article, and then renominate for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on March 29[edit]

Fossil fuel divestment

Students at Tufts University "marched forth on March 4th" coinciding with dozens of student-led rallies around the United States. The marches had the objective of pressuring universities to reduce and eventually eliminate investments in fossil-fuel related ventures.

Created by Mrjohncummings (talk). Self-nominated at 16:59, 9 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. Note that this is a first-time nominator, and that the article was nominated four days late (March 29 creation; April 9 nomination), which is typically in the WP:IAR range for someone new to the DYK process. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg I do not think this is ready for the front page. The lead says "Fossil fuel divestment is the removal of investment assets ... from companies involved in extracting fossil fuels". Disinvestment is in fact the sale of shares in these companies by one investor to other investors. The article does not explain how these sales affect financing costs for fossil fuel companies, and thus consumer prices. It is just a jumble of assertions, statistics and statements by TV personalities. Bianca Jagger? The subject is important and deserves an article that gives an informed and balanced view. This version reads like an incoherent polemic. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)










Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]

Band on the Run (song)

Improved to Good Article status by Beatleswhobeachboys (talk). Self-nominated at 16:40, 8 April 2015 (UTC).

  • The article meets the criteria but I just don't think it's interesting at all, and the context isn't clear, because the comment isn't in the hook. It's not particular attention grabbing and it doesn't teach me anything. The hook isn't focused enough either, because the lyric isn't included and neither is Harrison's comment. I think an alternate hook, or a more focused hook of the same idea, is needed. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  — ₳aron 17:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Based on the above comment, a new reviewer isn't needed, but a new hook from the nominator. Leaving a note on the nominator's page in the hopes that a new hook will be offered. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I changed the hook. Beatleswhobeachboys (talk) 13:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Since the initial comments make no sense without the original hook still there, I've restored it and labeled the new hook as ALT1, which is typical DYK labeling for additional/alternate hooks. ₳aron, can you please review the ALT1, and also be more specific about which criteria you checked? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:05, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I will, but I'm currently on holiday with limited Wi-Fi, so I will do it as soon as I can.  — Calvin999 12:56, 10 May 2015 (UTC)













Articles created/expanded on March 31[edit]

The Big Short (film)

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self nominated at 17:13, 31 March 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article is new enough, but far less than 1500 characters. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:09, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Also, the hook seems a bit dry and bland, but maybe I'm missing something (I'm not really what you would call a movie buff). --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Article remains too short at 1055 prose characters, and no QPQ has been supplied. However, since the nominator's talk page wasn't pinged, I'm going to do so now. Action will be needed within a week on these issues. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Article is expanded and QPQ is given. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 23:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
  • And the hook? What about ALT2: ... that The Big Short is a drama about a crisis? The first two sentences in the lead would have to be cited for that. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg I prefer the re-wording of alt3 but alt2 is the same meaning. The Main hook is also cited but the phrasing was odd - I fixed it. Alt1 is OK too. QPQ done, length OK, well cited, no image. I think it may be a bit short, so could you add 100 chars at least or find someone with the correct tool to hand .... it doesn't have to be exactly 1500 chars but not a character less please? Victuallers (talk) 14:48, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
@Victuallers: Article's expanded now. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:01, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I also like ALT3, but the part about it being a drama is not in the source. The source just says "it's not a comedy". Yoninah (talk) 22:57, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I think you don't understand. Victuallers accepted the ALT1 not ALT3. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 02:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]

Daniel Brustlein

  • ... that Daniel Brustlein was the magazine illustrator and cartoonist whose work appeared frequently in the The New Yorker from the 1930s to the 1960s?
  • ALT1:... that using his pen name, "Alain," Daniel Brustlein illustrated the book Farewell to Model T which was written by E.B. White with help from Richard Lee Strout using the collective pseudonym Lee Strout White?
  • Comment: "Nominating Daniel Brustlein for DYK"

Created by Delabrede (talk). Self-nominated at 12:40, 5 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment only This is not a review. Very good article, however the main hook act isn't mentioned in the ref given (that I could see). Actually the ref is to the painters web site where he is the one of the "foremost painters" in America. A 3rd party site might help. I also tried to find the "collective" pseudonym mention in the alt hook and the collective phrase isn't used in the article. I would have added it but there were three refs offered and I wasn't sure which one would mention this aspect. The article as a whole is well on its way to GA. I havent marked this as a review as I didnt want to deter another. Well done Victuallers (talk) 15:34, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Interesting person, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF. Article: please write more of a summary in the lead! Hook: the first mentions only one aspect, the second with all these names bores me. Please word something mentioning the cover art, yes, but also that (perhaps even more so) he was a serious artist. - I support that this article will be a GA before long ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)



The Machine Question

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nominated at 01:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Length and history verified; ref accepted in good faith since the webpage returns an internal server error. Daniel Case (talk) 17:32, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Addendum: Found some links and removed orphan tag. Daniel Case (talk) 17:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Only one link is not working,[4] but the editor has linked to doi. Some of the quotes at Critical reception are too big and should be shortened. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 07:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
I have notified the nominator. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 16:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
@Daniel Case:, @OccultZone:, @Panyd:, I have fixed the one ref link, it should be working properly now. But I disagree on the Critical Reception quote lengths. And that has nothing to do with the DYK review process anyways (since you're not supposed to include quotes in word count as it is). SilverserenC 21:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I would still ask you to rewrite some of them in your words. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 16:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)










Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]

Agriculture in the Republic of the Congo, Niari Valley

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:41, 5 April 2015 (UTC).

Review of "Niari Valley"
  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new and long enough. The hook is of appropriate length, and the information in the hook is referenced by footnote 1 of the article. — SMUconlaw (talk) 16:38, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
  • For the avoidance of doubt, I've mentioned that the article is new enough, but I'm not sure what you want me to say about the article being "within policy", or about the content of the hook which seems fine to me. — SMUconlaw (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • It's important to check the article for neutrality and close paraphrasing. What you said about the hook is fine. Yoninah (talk) 19:54, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Oh, I see. Well, it didn't look copied from the reference, so I think it should be OK. — SMUconlaw (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • That's useful. Thanks. — SMUconlaw (talk) 21:53, 17 May 2015 (UTC)




May God have mercy upon your soul

  • ... that when passing a death sentence in England, judges would say "May God have mercy upon your soul" because they felt that they didn't have authority to destroy souls and that only God did?

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 11:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough. AGF on published source and QPQ done. However, the hook starts in the past tense and ends in the present. On the understanding that its formal use is in the UK, where the death penalty is abolished, should it all be in the past tense? Or if we include its unofficial use in the USA, should it all be written in the present tense?
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Looking good. Assume good faith and good to go '''tAD''' (talk) 08:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm afraid I need to step in to cancel the approval. The hook's assertion, while interesting and plausible, seems to be sourced to an 86-page ebook. Something like this needs high-quality, scholarly source, something like the Rogers cite, which for some reason isn't used for this, which worries me -- if it's true, why doesn't Rogers say it? EEng (talk) 22:33, 4 April 2015 (UTC) P.S. Beyond that, we can't say that judges said such-and-such because of what they thought (which we cannot know), but rather "to indicate" something or "in deference" to God, or whatever.
    • @EEng: Are you sure you've got the right source? The claim in the article is sourced to source 5 which is a book about law and religion by Clarence Darrow, the defense attorney in the Scopes Trial. I'm fairly sure that that would be considered a high quality scholarly source. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:12, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Oops, you're right -- I was looking at the (similar) statement "The phrase originated in Beth din courts in the Kingdom of Israel as a way to attribute God as the highest authority in law". Nonetheless, with all respect to Darrow (and I mean that) he was far from a scholar or historian. This sounds like something he might have said to the Loeb-Leopold jury, not the fruit of long hours comparing the Dead Sea Scrolls to the Commentaries of Maimonedes (which would have been difficult anyway since the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered after he dies). Can you quote what this source (Darrow himself, I guess) says, and does it cite anything? If we can't find a better source for this flat statement, the hook can always say, "...that legendary American defense attorney Clarence Darrow said that when imposing a sentence of death, judges intone etc etc etc", which might be a better hook anyway. EEng (talk) 11:46, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
@EEng: Might be a bit POV to call Darrow "legendary". From the source, "In the pronouncement of the death penalty now, the judge adds "May God have mercy on your soul". Probably this is true, because the judge does not know how to destroy the victim's soul himself and the lawmakers, as a rule, consider this beyond their jurisdiction." Obviously if the lawmakers can't make a law regarding souls, then neither can a judge have the authority to destroy them for he has no law to enforce. I suspect that, at least in Christian context, it comes from James 4:12 and Matthew 10:28 where it says only God has the authority to destroy souls. There is another source I have found by Jean Calvin which I have added to the article. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I very much want to save this but it's gonna take some work. First of all, Hunsuck isn't a reliable source for anything -- he's just some evangelist with a self-published book. [5] Everything cited to him is going to have to be switched to [citation needed] for now. Calvin and Darrow have legitimacy in their spheres of activity (theology and the practice of American criminal law), and could be used in the hook as quote-sources ("according to John Calvin", "according to "Clarence Darrow"). But to say flatly that the phrase means this or that, or was used for this or that reason, will take a modern, scholarly, completely comprehensive source on English law back to ... I don't know, William the Conqueror or something -- and the answer for something this old is unlikely to be simple. This won't be easy for such a common phrase -- which BTW seems was used a lot outside the judicial context, which means we may never find a specific judicial origin for it at all. Can you put on your thinking cap and see what other sources you can come up with? EEng (talk) 17:29, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Darrow was considered one of the greatest scholars of jurisprudence, which is really what this phrase is connected to, in history. I think the fact that he as well as another expert in another field in Calvin at different times in history both came to the same answer as to the meaning of the phrase is sufficient for scholarly sources. either one on their own would not but together the concurrence to me suggests that this is the scholarly correct meaning of it. I have added another source but if you disagree I'll reword it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 19:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
You do know that I'm not the Chief All-Powerful DYK Approval Guy, right? But I appreciate your respecting my opinion on this, and I'm quite certain none of the sources now in the article is enough for a flat statement of the phrase's true origin and meaning. Darrow was a great lawyer and civil rights/labor advocate, but he was no kind of scholar (of jurisprudence or anything else). And Calvin was a zealot who interpreted things according to his own lights. But let me suggest this:
ALT1 ... that Clarence Darrow said that death sentences include "May God have mercy upon your soul" because the judge "does not know how to destroy the victim's soul himself"?
ALT2 ... that Clarence Darrow said death sentences include "May God have mercy upon your soul" because even lawmakers consider destroying souls "beyond their jurisdiction"?
See, once you look closely at what Darrow wrote it's clear he's not at all pretending to give the "real answer" -- he making a commentary on judicial and legislative arrogance or indifference. And that makes a pretty good hook. EEng (talk) 20:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Why did you cancel the original approval then? Anyway, if we have to have an alt, I wpould prefer to have something similar to the original and maybe focus on Calvin too.
ALT3... that according to John Calvin, judges would say when passing a death sentence "May God have mercy upon your soul" because they felt they didn't have authority to destroy souls and that only God did? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I cancelled the approval of ALT0 because it states, as straight fact, that the meaning of the phrase is [etc etc etc], and none of the sources we have are in a position to say that. What's the full quote from Calvin? (I couldn't find it -- too many editions.) EEng (talk) 22:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Its in two parts. "HE who has authority over the soul is the arbiter of life and death ..... It follows therefore that God ougt to be acknowledged as the only king of souls who alone has the power to save and to destroy or in the language of Isaiah as King, judge, legislator and saviour." and "it is not lawful to transfer to man what God appropriates solely to himself." The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:12, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Where's the bit about judges and death sentences? EEng (talk) 12:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Very eell, I'll use Darrow in the hook as it is more obvious in the sources. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:23, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
ALT4... that Clarence Darrow claimed judges would say, when passing a death sentence, "May God have mercy upon your soul" because they felt they didn't have authority to destroy souls and that only God did?

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Look, I'm not trying to be difficult, but your quote from Darrow (hope you don't mind -- I've bolded it in your post) doesn't say anything about God -- he was, famously, an agnostic -- and we can't just interpolate that into what he said. EEng (talk) 11:51, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

But it is in the other sources. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
No, it's not in the other sources that Darrow said anything about God, yet you're sticking it in the hook anyway. You keep borrowing things from a source talking about A and making it seem like the source said it about B. BlueMoonset, can you help us out here?
Beyond the need to find a hook that actually follows the source(s), there are still serious problems in the article itself with non-RS at least, and probably SYNTH. Again, I think this is a really interesting subject but we can't be importing our personal beliefs, beautiful and inspiring though they may be, into the article and the hook. EEng (talk) 18:43, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
In the absence of @BlueMoonset:, I'll propose this hook which should be acceptable as it doesn't mention the power of God over souls.
ALT5... that Clarence Darrow claimed judges would say, when passing a death sentence, "May God have mercy upon your soul" because they felt they didn't have the authority to destroy souls?
The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I think that's fine. I've struck all the others -- hope that's OK with you. We now have to face some problems in the article itself. For reasons explained above I've tagged everything cited to Hunsucker as [citation needed], because I don't believe he can be considered a RS. Also, the statement that "MGHMUYS was often followed by 'Amen'" is cited to the transcript of a single trial, and that hardly supports what "often" happens. There may be other issues but I'll leave that to the reviewer. (I think we need a new one since the first reviewer seems to have missed a great deal.) EEng (talk) 11:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on April 3[edit]

Palmiry massacre

Polish women led to mass execution in a forest near Palmiry

Created by Dreamcatcher25 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:48, 14 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The page was started on April 3, and I am willing to accept the extra 4 days (it's now a 7-day limit) on the nomination. The article is long enough, neutrally written, and well referenced with Polish-language sources, although I added an English-language cite just for confirmation in my language. QPQ not needed. Image is public domain. The only problem is that the first hook does not have an inline cite, and the ALT1 hook fact doesn't appear in the article at all. You must provide a source for calling it "one of the greatest Nazi crimes in Poland", and I think that the designation of "notorious" in the sentence The most notorious and the best documented of these massacres should be removed as POV. I added a few "citation needed" tags to paragraphs that lack them, per DYK rules. Yoninah (talk) 21:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I removed the “notorius” and I added some new sources. Now both hooks are supported by text and sources. I also find some Polish sources for the paragraphs which need citation as well as for the sentence about “one of the greatest Nazi crimes in Poland/one of the most famous sites of the Nazi crimes in Poland” (I treated both statements as equal). Regarding the last - there’s also a website in English but I’m not sure if this source is proper for Wikipedia[6].Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 09:23, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, the first hook is still not sourced; it is a sweeping statement that appears in the lead (and should be sourced if it stays). What IS sourced is:
  • ALT2: ... that a forest glade near the village of Palmiry (pictured) is one of the most famous sites of Nazi war crimes in Poland?
  • The ALT1 hook fact is sourced to a foreign-language source and is fine. Yoninah (talk) 10:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • But ALT3 is not sourced in the article. Yoninah (talk) 13:15, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
"one of the most famous sites of Nazi crimes in Poland" and "one of the best known Nazi crimes in Poland" is not the same?Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 13:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • No. A "site" is not a "crime". Please choose ALT1 or ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • OK then, I prefer ALT2. I think it will be more understandable for non-Polish readers. However I think that in this hook we should change the current link to the words: "Nazi war crimes in Poland". War crimes of the Wehrmacht is a not proper link because Wehrmacht has nothing to do with Palmiry massacre (it was SS and OrPO crime). It would be better to replace it with Nazi crimes against the Polish nation or simply Nazi crime.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 16:16, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK. The reason I added that link to the Wehrmacht is because that's what came up when I clicked on your link in the lead for Nazi war crimes. I see that you changed the link in the lead, and I have amended ALT2 per your suggestion. Thank you for your patience so far. Since DYK rules preclude me from approving my own hook, I call on another reviewer to approve ALT2 and complete this nomination. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 18:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@Yoninah and Dreamcatcher25: I think that the original hook, mentioning Katyn, was quite interesting. How about ALT3 proposed below? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg @Piotrus: I think it's interesting to you because you're familiar with Poland, but "Katyn" could also be sufficiently mysterious for Westerners to click on. But the part about being "best-known" is not sourced, as I mentioned above. Yoninah (talk) 10:16, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I must agree with Yoninah. It's very interesting proposal but I really can't find the source which explicitly quote that "Palmiry is one of the best-known Nazi crimes in Poland". It's usually said that Palmiry is one of the most famous/best known site of Nazi crimes in Poland.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 16:13, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed for ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 12:13, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I've taken the liberty of revising the relevant line in the article (with the addition of a new source), which should hopefully avoid some of the problems cited above. "Notorious" seems to me to be more apposite than "famous", so I'd suggest the following hook, which is sourced to citation 55 in the article (Lukas). Prioryman (talk) 17:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT4: ... that the Palmiry massacre made a forest near Palmiry in Poland one of the country's "most notorious places of mass executions"?
  • Thanks for finding that source, @Prioryman:. The new hook works for me, but way you wrote it in the article, "one of the most notorious places of mass execution", is word-for-word from the source. Yoninah (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
  • That's easily resolved, it just needs to be cast as a direct quote from the source. I've modified the hook and article accordingly. Prioryman (talk) 22:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK, you could do it that way (I was thinking more of paraphrasing). I changed the quote to "executions" per the source. Hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:24, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Personaly I still prefer the ALT2. The phrase "most notorious places of mass executions..." suggests that Plamiry was the Polish equivalent of Tyburn or Sing Sing. I think it should be clearly noted that Palmiry was a Nazi crime.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 09:40, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I don't think "famous" really works in the context of a crime - in English, "famous" tends to have a fairly positive connotation, whereas negative acts or places with bad reputations tend to be described as infamous or notorious. Thus Sing Sing is a notorious prison, Tyburn is an infamous place of execution, etc. However, I take your point about noting that it was a Nazi crime, so how about a reworded hook along the following lines? Prioryman (talk) 11:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK, great. A reviewer will still need to sign off the hook and article though. Prioryman (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Tweaked hook to reflect the fact that massacres took place there over a period of 2 years. Yoninah (talk) 14:40, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── You know, we could satisfy Dreamcatcher25's preference for ALT2 by merely changing one word. If you like this, @Dreamcatcher25:, I could go ahead and approve it. Otherwise, someone else will have to approve ALT6, because I had a hand in writing it.

ALT7: ... that a forest glade near the village of Palmiry (pictured) is one of the most notorious sites of Nazi war crimes in Poland? Yoninah (talk) 14:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Problem is, that's not what the source says - Lukas describes it as one of the most notorious sites of mass executions, not of Nazi war crimes. (Don't forget that the Soviets also carried out mass executions in Poland.) I think that proposal would fail source verification, unfortunately. Prioryman (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK. New reviewer needed for ALT6. Yoninah (talk) 15:33, 17 May 2015 (UTC)










Say Uncle (Steven Universe); Steven Universe: Attack the Light!

Created by 23W (talk), Sandstein (talk), and Wonchop (talk). Nominated by 23W (talk) at 01:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg These two articles are new enough and long enough. The hook facts are suitably sourced, the articles are neutral and I saw no evidence of close paraphrasing. Either hook could be used. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg In Uncle Grandpa, the last line under History needs a cite. Additionally, while the Plot section is usually exempt, the Characters section, which takes up most of the character count, is completely unsourced. The chart of Episodes also needs sourcing. Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]

Gender roles in non-heterosexual communities

Created/expanded by Zumoarirodoka (talk). Nominated by Timtrent (talk) at 08:51, 5 April 2015 (UTC).

  • It was moved to mainspace on a previous day before the nomination. I moved this nomination accordingly. George Ho (talk) 05:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)






Articles created/expanded on April 8[edit]

Elizabeth Handley-Seymour

Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother in her Coronation gown, 1937


Mrs. Patrick Campbell as Eliza Doolittle

Created by Mabalu (talk). Self-nominated at 10:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: File:Mrs Patrick Campbell as Eliza Doolittle.png is the image for the second hook. It doesn't look too bad at the thumbnail size either. I know the proposed image is actually a cropped version of the image in the article, which I think ought to be permissible...
  • Comment - Maybe the first hook could go up on 12th May as the Coronation took place that day in 1937? Frustratingly I've just realised I NARROWLY missed the 101th anniversary of the UK premiere of Pygmalion (11 April!) for the second hook! Mabalu (talk) 10:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Any ideas how to modify the hook so that readers aren't confused into thinking that the current queen was inaugurated in 1937 (and, trust me, plenty of readers will be so confused). EEng (talk) 04:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. Maybe:

Mabalu (talk) 09:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

The problem is that she wasn't the QM at the time, so I don't know what to say. EEng (talk) 12:41, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I did ponder that too. It's an article I am very pleased with so I really want it to have credit. I think anyone who clicks through, if they hadn't realised already, will swiftly realise it's not THAT Queen Elizabeth - especially as it's specified in the lede as the 1937 Coronation, and not the 1953 one. Mabalu (talk) 14:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, but I'm still interested in seeing if anyone has a clever way of indicating her shifting title succinctly. EEng (talk) 14:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm sure User:DrKiernan could help here. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like a job for Martinevans123. EEng (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm sure User:DrKiernan could help here. (He's an expert in royal stuff, unlike me). Martinevans123 (talk) 14:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I think we're forced to use "Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother" because any alternative is likely to be either confusing or distracting. In 1923, she had two names: Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon before the wedding and the Duchess of York after it. In 1937, she was Queen Elizabeth, but she had become that in 1936. DrKiernan (talk) 15:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
on the principle that QEtheQM is the title most readers are familiar with, as well as her title at death, I think that's the right choice. Thanks to you an to ME123. EEng (talk) 06:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you from me too. Mabalu (talk) 13:57, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including thoughts on an ALT2 revision. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:34, 9 May 2015 (UTC)







Shooting of Walter Scott

Converted to an article by Wnt (talk), WWGB (talk), and Mandruss (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 01:01, 9 April 2015 (UTC).

  • This wasn't a shootout, so ALTs 1 and 2 really don't make sense. They're too awkward for me to fix at the moment. Anyway I think the straightforward ALT0 is best. EEng (talk) 16:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Fine with me. EEng (talk) 11:50, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I feel like these humdrum hooks miss the most interesting part of the whole story. The witness actually waited from April 6 to the 8th, I think, because he was afraid of retribution if he shared the video - he even considered erasing it. [7] But then he contacted Black Lives Matter after seeing the police report didn't match with what happened. I remember one source saying there was even a full day during which he and the family had the video but still didn't release it, and only after the cop's lawyer gave a song and dance about Scott wrestling for control of the taser did they decide to release it. There ought to be a way to show people some of that dramatic tension, but one problem is that I'm afraid we didn't update the article with all these things. Wnt (talk) 02:30, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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  1. I don't know anything about DYK, so I don't know whether this is relevant here. But the appropriate weight to give to the races in this article is a matter of controversy. Including the races in a brief DYK statement would seem at least as controversial as mentioning them in the first para of the article, which is the subject of an open RfC. However, in an article like this one, it might be difficult to identify a factoid that's both non-trivial and non-controversial. Maybe the fact that the shooting was caught on video by an eyewitness?
  2. According to the revision history statistics for this article, user Cwobeel is #2 in edit count and #1 in total text added, so he seems conspicuously absent from the credits. ―Mandruss  02:43, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
In response, I credited Cwobeel. George Ho (talk) 05:56, 15 May 2015 (UTC)




Lindy Creek

  • ... that near its headwaters, the gradient of Lindy Creek is on the order of 400 feet per mile (76 m/km), but in its lower reaches, the gradient is only on the order of 40 feet per mile (7.6 m/km)?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed of nomination as made; merger is not happening. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:48, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. The hook, though, is too statistical. Maybe you could write something about the ice pond, or about the flooding in 1936? QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I had a look and I don't think there's anything else terribly fascinating that can be pulled from the rest of the article. I suppose we could cut the statistics and just say:
  • ALT1: ... that near its headwaters, the gradient of Lindy Creek is about ten times higher than it is in its lower reaches? -- Come to think of it, that's more succinct and more likely to draw in readers. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I agree. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


Keyser Creek

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is highly similar to other articles, Lindy Creek and Lucky Run, also nominated for DYK. Is merger possible? George Ho (talk) 21:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @George Ho: The three hooks are completely different from each other. This one is about history, Lindy Creek is about geography, and Lucky Run is about hydrology. A merger would also require that hook facts from each article to appear in the other two, where such information would be irrelevant. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 21:33, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Regardless, look at the patterns and layouts among all three. George Ho (talk) 21:35, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It doesn't matter unless they're in the same set. Another review? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 21:39, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Why not describe three topics in one hook then? George Ho (talk) 22:01, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • George Ho, this article and others on this page are part of a series Jakob is doing on small bodies of water in the same geographical area, which he has also nominated for GA. There are others who write multiple articles on their particular field of interest and follow the same patterns and layouts when they do - lots and lots of DYK nominations like that. I don't see anything in the DYK rules that requires anyone to merge their articles - or to put them all in one multi-nomination. If it bothers you, just move on and review something else. — Maile (talk) 23:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed. — Maile (talk) 23:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Very nice job, Jakob. This is longer than other articles by you that I've reviewed, and very factual and well-sourced. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref is verified and cited inline. I expanded the link to Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania to place the creek on the map for readers. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)




Ed Miliband bacon sandwich photograph

  • Reviewed: Siege of Sparta
  • Comment: This CAN NOT be featured until at least 8 May, due to rules regarding hooks on electoral candidates

Created by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 01:27, 8 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svgFacepalm3.svg Facepalm Why did I not think of writing this? Article is brand new and has been all over the news more than him looking like Wallace. However, the hook is misleading, all The Guardian actually says is Nigel Farage is better at eating sandwiches, with the roll / slice comment being ancillary. So let's go with ALT1 ... that The Guardian thinks Nigel Farage is better at eating a bacon sandwich than Ed Miliband? Paging @EEng: as he'll doubtless want to lob in an ALT once he gets hold of this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Ritchie333 why not ALT2 ... that according to The Independent, David Cameron might eat hot dogs with a knife and fork to avoid resembling an awkward photograph of Ed Miliband eating a bacon sandwich? This suggestion has also been touted by Sky News and the Express among others, but I used the Independent cite in the article as the other two are generally seen as Conservative-leaning, at least moreso than the Independent. I did take care when writing the article to avoid the most partisan sources within context. '''tAD''' (talk) 18:06, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Well, let's wait until the election's over, then whoever puts together the prep can pick the funniest! And if you can wean this or this or this into the article, even better. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Now now, less of the personal attacks, young man. Anyway, to recap, I can't remember why I forgot to say the article was long enough at 3493 bytes of prose, and putting it into Earwig's tool did not report any copyvios - but it was and it didn't. The article since then has had stability problems. Recapping, the original hook is in the article and sourced but it's not really "hooky" enough to grab attention on the main page in my view. Nobody else has proposed any other hooks and the article is now out of date since Ed Miliband has resigned as Labour Leader and is keeping a low profile. So it's all out of date and I'd suggest we drop the whole thing, take a deep breath, and look at something else instead. Who's for sausage rolls? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]

Akeem Dodson

Created by IgnorantArmies (talk). Self-nominated at 09:02, 14 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Tournament has now commenced, so ALT1 needs to be used… IgnorantArmies (talk) 05:12, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Locusta migratoria migratorioides

Solitary male African migratory locust

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref verified and cited inline. Image is freely licensed and awesome! (Wish I could take such a good picture.) QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


The Trial of Elizabeth Gadge

Created by J Milburn (talk) and Mamalovesmambo (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 21:33, 12 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. However, the Plot section, which is unsourced (that's ok), takes up 61 percent of the article (3908 characters for the Plot section, compared to 2500 characters for the rest of the article). Could you shorten it, please? Hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 20:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review. I've trimmed the plot section a little. I will be giving the article some more attention in the coming weeks with an aim to nominate it at GAC soonish. Josh Milburn (talk) 19:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

U.S. Route 33 in Michigan

  • ... that for its first 25 years of existence in Michigan, US Highway 33 did not have an independent routing?

Created by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:51, 11 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Expanded significantly in last week, long enough, plenty of references, neutral, no copyright vio, hook is reasonably interesting and has 2 citations. QPQ is done. Good to go. Hughesdarren (talk) 07:20, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
  • And the missing tick - sorry for an inconvenience.Symbol confirmed.svg Hughesdarren (talk) 09:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


Lalitgiri, Udayagiri

A skeletal image of Buddha

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 11 April 2015 (UTC).

5X expansion on both articles checks out. Dates are good. Ran copyvio checks on three online sources, only found short phrases repeated but looks good for paraphrasing. The hook is a bit unwieldy. Propose ALT 1:
  • @The Interior: Thanks for the review. I agree with the proposed ALT 1 hook. --Nvvchar. 02:06, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check previous reviewer's ALT1 hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)






Christiana Abiodun Emanuel

Created by Bosstopher (talk). Self-nominated at 13:39, 9 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Congratulations on your first article, Bosstopher! For DYK purposes, the article is new enough, long enough, adequately referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. As most of the sources are offline, I did a Google search to find out more about her and immediately came up with this article from the Dictionary of African Christian Biography, which contradicts numerous facts stated in your article, such the spelling of her last name, her birthplace, and amount of time spent unconscious. Other online sources that may be used to double-check/expand the article are Holy People of the World: A Cross-cultural Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia of New Religious Movements, and West African Christianity: The Religious Impact. The hook could use more ummph; maybe you could source the information about her trance and visions and come up with something hooky from that? No QPQ necessary for first-time nominator. Yoninah (talk) 00:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
@Yoninah:Thank you for the review. I accessed most of the sources used for writing this through JSTOR, so they are readable online if you want to check them. I've double checked and I dont think I've misrepresented any of the sources. One of the main problems I had with writing this article is that every source I read seemed to contradict all the others. Especially with regards to why the Cherubim and Serphim schism happened. WRT to spelling I'm more prone to lean towards that of the DAB which seems to be slightly more academic in nature than the DACB (which is partially written by clerics). I'll remove the length of the trance and the place of birth though. Thank you for the new sources those will be useful in expanding the article. As for a hook would "...that Yoruba religious leader Christiana Abiodun claimed angels had visited her during a trance and taken her to heaven?" work? Bosstopher (talk) 20:15, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on April 10[edit]

Political positions of Lincoln Chafee

  • ... that Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee refused a court order to transfer a state prisoner to the U.S. government, because the transfer could have made the prisoner eligible for capital punishment?

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 17:35, 11 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Article is new and long enough. No QPQ, but I belive this editor may have less than 5 DYKS. Article is inline sourced to a variety of sources; spotchecks did not not reveal close paraphrasing problems. As a thumb of rule, each paragraph in a DYK article is to have at least one inline source; and the paragraph on Parks and Preservations lacks this, so that should be added. I also think the info regarding NARAL in the abortion section should be sourced (and preferably precised as to which years/lifetime he received the degree/s for). I will add that the article is somewhat thin on domestic issues (thinner than the mother article, which isn't good for a spin-off article) and it has many one, two, three sentences paragraphs, so I would prefer that the domestic issues section was turned into fewer sub-sections. As for the hook, it is interesting, just about short enough and basically correct. However, the independent source (NYTimes) doesn't explicitly say he refused to follow a court order; it says he refused to hand the suspect over and regarding court decisions "The federal government got one ruling in its favor, and one against, from a three-judge appeals panel", so the hook may need some slight tweaking or an addition of a ref that more directly back up the hook fact "refused a court order". - Pinging LavaBaron - Iselilja (talk) 00:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the source, but possibly saying he "resisted a court order" or "resisted transferring" the prisoner vaugue-ifies it appropriately. EEng (talk) 01:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't quite get the difference between "refused" and "resisted", but that may be because English is not my first language. Might be better to add a ref. that more directly uses the phrase "resisted court order". Or your second alterative leaving out court order might be an alternative; allthough this case ended by a transfer (after a plea bargain and guarantee of no death penalty). It might be an idea to add the last fact to the article; even if it's more a practical matter and not a political position. Iselilja (talk) 17:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
"Refused" carries the implication he was actually in a position to block the transfer, and did so at least temporarily. "Resisted" is a somewhat vague term which includes temporary, futile footdragging. Since there seems to be some doubt as to what actually happened, "resisted" is safe. EEng (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Pan Celtic Festival

5x expanded by Wesley Mouse (talk). Self-nominated at 01:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I de-italicized the link to the outbreak article. Also, the article has been expanded but not in a fivefold. Previous revision was 1,009 bytes/characters. Current revision is 2,761 B. A few more sections can help expansion become a fivefold. --George Ho (talk) 06:46, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
@George Ho: You've confused me now. Where have you got 2,761 bytes? The revision history shows 10,735 bytes. Wes Mouse | T@lk 10:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
The 10,000+ bytes thing includes reference codes, headings, tables, lists, and infobox. WP:DYK rules count only non-list prose. Still confused? George Ho (talk) 11:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
@George Ho:. I've expanded even further now, I think that is five-fold. Original version before my major expansion was at 1,009 - five-fold would make a target of 5,045 bytes. Its current status is 6,069 bytes. However, the DYK check tool still says it hasn't expanded five-fol. Is there a glitch with that tool lately? Make that 6,260 bytes. Wes Mouse | T@lk 15:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Impressive, but I hope the article is not bloated with unnecessary information. Of course, someone else might disagree. George Ho (talk) 20:04, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Palmer E. Pierce

Palmer Eddy Pierce in 1919.

Created by Tomandjerry211 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:31, 10 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Note: The QPQ was incomplete; however, the user has less than 5 DYKs, so he is exempt from the requirement for this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 10:53, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This is a good start-article for DYK; however, it needs more work to bring it up to general Wikipedia standards. I restructured and copyedited the presentation, noting in several places the need for a date rather than just saying "later". Since FindaGrave and Ancestry.com are not reliable sources, I deleted them, and now there are several paragraphs that require reliable sourcing. Perhaps there is a biography about him in a military encyclopedia or website?Yes check.svg Done
  • Regarding the hooks: ALT1 is pretty standard for a military personality. The first hook has potential, but would be even better if you first identified him according to his military status.Yes check.svg Done
  • Since the image in the article is public domain, you may want to submit it with this nomination. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)Yes check.svg Done
  • Symbol question.svg Thank you for your edits. The new source that you added for his biography does not mention some of the material that it supposedly cites, so I removed the cites. I found and added some more references, although I can't find a definitive biography listing. All paragraphs have at least one cite now.
  • I tweaked the hook to add his military designation, which I think adds to the hookiness. The image is public domain. The only lingering issue is that there is no inline citation for the fact that he founded the NCAA. All I see in the sources you provided is that he was the first president of the organization. Either way, a cite is needed. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I have removed the claim and replaced more simply with He was became the first President of the NCAA in 1904. -- Tomandjerry211 (Let's have a chat) 23:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, but please add a citation right after that sentence. Yoninah (talk) 07:21, 20 May 2015 (UTC)



Erik Lima

  • ... that Brazilian footballer Erik Lima won the best newcomer of Serie A award at the end of the 2014 season?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 18:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg For links and distinguishing it from the Italian Serie A, I would suggest ALT1: ... that Erik Lima won the best newcomer award at the end of the 2014 season of Brazilian football's Série A? '''tAD''' (talk) 11:27, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Article had one source before expansion, so needed to be expanded fivefold, that it was. Reliable source for an interesting hook which is obviously not overtly negative. Personally, I believe User:MYS77 deserves a joint credit for this article. '''tAD''' (talk) 11:27, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Royroydeb: QPQ required. Added MYS77 per the above suggestion. How about we avoid the league confusion altogether:
ALT1: ... that footballer Erik Lima won the best newcomer award at the end of the 2014 Brasileirão season? Fuebaey (talk) 06:48, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 11[edit]

Marga Schiml

Marga Schiml in 2012

Created by CookieMonster755 (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:27, 16 April 2015 (UTC).




Veerabhadra Temple, Lepakshi

Carving of a multi-hooded serpent shading the Linga in the Veerabhadra Temple, Lepakshi

  • ... that in the backdrop of the Veerabhadra Temple, Lepakshi, on its eastern side, there is a granite boulder which has a carving of a coiled multi-hooded serpent (pictured) providing shade over a Linga?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg At first sight I thought that the article has used an unreliable source for the hook, at the same time I found that it has also used a reliable source. It is good to go. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 18:05, 21 May 2015 (UTC)



Cross Road Blues

  • Reviewed: Third self-nominated DYK (QPQ not required)

Improved to Good Article status by Ojorojo (talk). Self-nominated at 19:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Suggesting an ALT1 in a way that doesn't repeat Johnson's name. w.carter-Talk 22:20, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Recently promoted to GA status, within policy, no close paraphrasing detected, and ALT1 is well. But QPQ is required even it's self nominated or not, as nominator has more than five DYKs. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:59, 25 April 2015 (UTC)



Moneycontrol.com

5x expanded by Skr15081997 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:12, 11 April 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 12[edit]

Tommy Hendricks

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:05, 15 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough expansion (from 356 characters to 3,257 characters by my unscientific count, good for 9.14x expansion), recent enough (all within seven days), and free of any major policy issues (the article is neutral, well cited, and free of any detected copyright issues). The hook is short enough, interesting, neutral, and is properly cited. Also, QPQ has been done. Everything looks good to go to me. Nice work! Michael Barera (talk) 00:09, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Abdoulaye Demba

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 11:33, 12 April 2015 (UTC).

  • (Not eligible for the 2x BLP exception, but it easily meets the normal 5x expansion requirement.) MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Major Lazer (TV series)

Created by 23W (talk). Self-nominated at 00:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC).


Tomb of Ali Mardan Khan

Tomb of Ali Mardan Khan

  • ... that though Ali Mardan Khan was not a saint but a Mughal noble his tomb (pictured) is considered as a shrine by the locals?

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 14:25, 12 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New and long enough. NPOV. Hook fact checks out. AGF on offline sources. QPQ has been done. However, the article needs to be rewritten in order to distant it from this source.--Skr15081997 (talk) 09:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
"in order to distant it" - cant understand it. @Skr15081997: RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 09:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I mean that there's a great deal of close paraphrasing b/w the 2. Rewrite accordingly. Image is appropriately licensed.--Skr15081997 (talk) 09:07, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
@Skr15081997:, Done, have a check. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 09:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
This isn't sufficient. More work is needed.--Skr15081997 (talk) 09:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Then please tell me which paras to work on. Already some phrases are quoted which are taken from the source. I dont know if much is still required. @Skr15081997: RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 15:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Article: kiosks on angular points which stands on an eight-sided podium each of which measure 58 feet
Source: kiosks on angular points and standing on an eight sided podium, each side measuring 58 ft.
Article: The tomb stood in the middle of a "paradisiacal garden" which was the favourite theme of Mughal emperor Jahangir.
Source: The tomb once stood at the centre of a paradisiacal garden, a favourite theme as evidenced in the sepulcher of Jahangir.
Article: The grave is located in a subterranean chamber is accessed through a descending flight of steps which is decorated in the way they are decorated in a saint shrine
Source: The grave which is in the subterranean chamber, and accessed through a descending flight of steps, is decorated in the manner of a saint’s shrine.
Article: The extent to which the garden extended is understood by the double storey gateway doors in the north of the garden.
Source: The extent of Ali Mardan garden can be gauged by the double-storey gateway in the north mentioned above.

--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Skr15081997: Done. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 07:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I can't approve this in current state. 1 advice I can give you is this; instead of typing the facts as soon as you read them, think about them. Give yourself the time to change the style and wording. Anyway, I request a new reviewer to check whether the close paraphrasing issue is resolved or not. Regards, --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:04, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree with Skr15081997 that this article still contains significant close paraphrasing (as well as some very clumsy English that sort-of hides the paraphrasing). Even more importantly, the hook is virtually word-for-word from the source and so is a copyright violation in itself. So I agree that this is currently ineligible for DYK. Relentlessly (talk) 09:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Royroydeb, this article clearly needs a good copyedit by someone with the skills to identify and avoid close paraphrasing. I strongly suggest you request such a copyedit at the Guild of Copy Editors; without it, it seems clear that this DYK will not succeed. You will also need to supply a new hook that does not violate copyright; I have struck the current one per Relentlessly's analysis. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Pretty much rewritten, from the same source. should be ok now. Johnbod (talk) 03:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that though Ali Mardan Khan was a successful engineer and administrator his tomb in Lahore (pictured) is considered as a shrine by the locals?

Johnbod (talk) 03:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The hook is nice ! @Johnbod: RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 20:49, 5 May 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]

William G. Whittaker

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svgThis is good to go - Newly written (rare example of a British person whose article had to be translated from a foreign wiki!) and nominated in good time. Hook is short and intriguing and verified in the source. Long enough, well sourced, neutral and checked for copyvios. QPQ is all good.--Jackyd101 (talk) 21:56, 21 May 2015 (UTC)



Sam Sword

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:36, 15 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5× expansion was nominated in a timely fashion, and article is long enough. Article is neutral, generally sufficiently cited, and no paraphrasing concerns. I can't figure out how to verify that he was the leading tackler in 1997 based on the inline source, which provides the player's raw stats but seem to be missing ranking relative to other teammates. Also, I'm concerned about the sourcing for the statement "His 265 solo tackle ranks third in Michigan history". The citation points to a stats site which says "Defensive does not start until 1965 season" and also says "Please check back on a regular basis since we are continually inputting missing data." It is not clear if data prior to 1965 does not exist anywhere, or it exists but this site does not provide them yet. I'd feel more comfortable if a reliable source stated this in prose. Otherwise, this particular stats sites limitation seem to require some original research on how to interpret its limitations (if any).—Bagumba (talk) 06:42, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


Rajinikanth: The Definitive Biography

Rajinikanth at the audio release of Kochadaiiyaan (2014)

Created by Skr15081997 (talk) and Kailash29792 (talk). Nominated by Skr15081997 (talk) at 11:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC).

  • I prefer ALT2, but you can reference Naman Ramachandran. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go with ALT2. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 18:05, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Abby Martin

Photo of Abby Martin on RT America

Improved to Good Article status by Viriditas (talk). Nominated by CookieMonster755 (talk) at 01:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC).

ALT1:

  • Symbol question.svg Recently promoted GA. NPOV. No plagiarism detected. She's a former journalist and the hook should be changed accordingly. Nominator is exempt from QPQ. How about mentioning "looks like a model and acts like a punk."?--Skr15081997 (talk) 08:34, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

ALT2:

Skr15081997 - I created an alternate one according to your suggestions. I feel like this fact is not neutral and has a focus unduly on negative aspects of Abby. What do you think? Cheers. CookieMonster755 (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I have struck ALT2 in case someone objects to it. Image is appropriately licensed. Does she still works for RT America?--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Skr15081997 - Abby no longer works for RT America. She has her own media website. CookieMonster755 (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg I have added "former" to the original hook. Good to go.--Skr15081997 (talk) 04:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Skr15081997! Face-smile.svg CookieMonster755 (talk) 06:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There's at least one reference that's a bare URL, and must be filled out, since bare URLs are not allowed in DYK submissions. Also, while Breaking the Set ended a couple of months ago, the article does not specifically state nor cite that she has left RT America, and it needs to for this fact to be used in the two remaining hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:16, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check that remaining hooks are sufficiently backed up by sources. Viriditas, your edits hadn't quite done the trick, so I added specific wording that she left the network (not just the show) and also used one of the existing sources as an inline citation at the end of the sentence in question. Unfortunately, this means that someone else will have to check to be sure I've done a proper job of it. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
  • It's not a hook I would have written, but I think you're reading it in a much different way than I am. As the sources make clear, Abby Martin is a journalist and former host of Breaking the Set on RT America. That clearly makes her a former journalist for RT America, however, if I had written the hook, I would not have said that. I think your original objection, that the article did not explicitly say she had left RT America, misses the point. The sources say she no longer works as a host of Breaking the Set, therefore, she no longer works for RT America. It's pretty clear and unambiguous, however, like I said, it's not my hook and I would not have written it that way. Viriditas (talk) 04:25, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

ALT3:


Capital City Fire/Rescue

Created by Michaelh2001 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:04, 16 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough and long enough. Hook fact checks out. Creator not known to have issues with plagiarism. Article is neutral. Mjroots (talk) 05:36, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
*QPQ not needed as only 5th DYK. Mjroots (talk) 17:30, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Michaelh2001, I'm afraid that a QPQ will be required. Mjroots, as Michaelh2001's talk page clearly shows five prior DYK articles being posted on the main page—all you have to do is look and see all five messages—he has to supply a QPQ. Tools like the one you used aren't always accurate in counting all the DYKs. Generally, if it shows at least five, you know that a QPQ is required; if it shows fewer, it's best to check the talk page for confirmation. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
  • OK, comment struck. Mjroots (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Comment I will be happy to provide a QPQ here, but for future reference, isn't that required for the sixth? The first five being freebies? Juneau Mike (talk) 01:56, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Juneau Mike, precisely. There is no QPQ required for the first five articles to be approved for the main page (though we always welcome reviews). As this is your sixth article, a QPQ is required. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:57, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
I dropped the ball here. Waited too long for QPQ, and had to move the page in the meantime. Recommend my nom be turned down. I'll do better next time. :/ Juneau Mike (talk) 06:52, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
@Michaelh2001: Without looking at the article, it looks like the nom just needs a QPQ. Would you care to complete one so this can move on? Fuebaey (talk) 06:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 14[edit]

Omen (Antestor album)

Lars Stokstad of Antestor

  • ... that while on tour in Brazil to promote its new album Omen, the band Antestor (guitarist Lars Stokstad pictured) was attacked by Satanist black metal fans angered by the Christian beliefs of the band members?

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:10, 16 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg No copyvio, no dead links, and the hook is also supported by numerous other websites such as metal archive. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 18:14, 22 May 2015 (UTC)




María Luisa Elío

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Ipigott (talk), and SusunW (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:42, 16 April 2015 (UTC).


2015 Wootton Bassett SPAD incident

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self-nominated at 15:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC).

  • I won't review this as I've had involvement in the article, but I think the hook should read ... temporarily banned ... as the suspension has now been lifted. Optimist on the run (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I disagree, temporarily or not, the fact stands that WCRC were banned. No need to amend the hook IMHO. Mjroots (talk) 21:18, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


Raphael Rossi Branco

5x expanded by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 21:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expansion recent enough, long enough (207 to 1,840 characters, good for 8.88x expansion), and free of any major policy issues (the article is well written, well cited, neutral, and free of any apparent copyright issues). The hook is short enough, interesting, and properly cited in the article. Also, QPQ has been done. It looks good to go to me. Nice work! Michael Barera (talk) 00:51, 22 May 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on April 15[edit]

Charles R. Adrian

Moved to mainspace by Chris troutman (talk). Self-nominated at 23:46, 15 April 2015 (UTC).



Articles created/expanded on April 16[edit]

Homaro Cantu

Rotary evaporator at Moto

  • Reviewed: Surin Elephant Round-up
  • Comment: A couple pictures of the man exist too, but I thought the gadget picture most interestingly captures the theme of science-cooking

5x expanded by ThaddeusB (talk). Self-nominated at 17:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed and the hook facts are well-sourced. The article is neutral and I noticed no close paraphrasing or other copyright problems. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:38, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review. If I may, I would like to make an appeal to the promoter to use the picture. It has been a long time since I had a picture slot and I think this one really adds something to the hook above and beyond simple visual interest that most pictures add. Thanks. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:17, 21 May 2015 (UTC)




Joachim Wtewael

Two figures on a bed, with several others around and above them

  • ... that erotic sections of two drawings by Joachim Wtewael for his paintings of Mars and Venus Surprised by the Gods (a version pictured) were cut out by later collectors?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 14:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

  • expanded from 2180 to over 11,500 characters (13,216 by 19 April). Adding caption text seems to blow the whole thing up - "Two figures on a bed, with several other around and above them" could be used. Hook ref link is p. 21 here, current ref # 24 in the article. Johnbod (talk) 14:04, 18 April 2015 (UTC)








Articles created/expanded on April 17[edit]

Ashley Everett

* ... that Ashley Everett decided against attending the Juilliard School, despite already being accepted and enrolled, so she could continue touring with Beyoncé?

  • ALT1:... that Ashley Everett was asked to dye her hair red by Beyoncé in 2009, and now won't change it back because of how popular it is with her fans?
  • Comment: Personally much prefer ALT1

Created by ThirdWard (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svgThe article is new enough, being created on the date it was nominated on (Apr. 17). It has not been featured on the main page and its readable prose is long enough. The subject is dealt with in a neutral manner and there are no dispute templates and does not contain plagiarism. The user does not have to complete a QPQ because they have nominated less than five articles.
The resource cited for the first DYK does not mention Juilliard School so it cannot be used. In ALT1, the section about not changing it back because of how popular it is with her fans is not technically true. The citation says she wouldn't change it back because she "thinks people will miss it." I wouldn't be comfortable having that appear on the Main Page. Besides, a shorter hook is more likely to catch a reader's attention. I propose:
ALT2:... that Ashley Everett was asked to dye her hair red by Beyoncé?
If you like ALT2 please respond below. Otherwise let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Z1720 (talk) 04:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
@Z1720: ALT2 is fine! Appreciate you reviewing this after it has been waiting for so long too ThirdWard (talk) 08:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, further edit. I have fixed the ref with the original Juilliard School hook. Before your copyedit, there was two VIBE articles. I just noticed one of the articles had the title to the Juilliard School reference, but the link to the unrelated, other, VIBE article. I have now fixed this, and the hook is cited in the first page of the VIBE article. If possible, I would prefer ALT1, as I think it has more depth to it than just a fact about hair colour. But it is up to you, as I see how ALT2 is shorter, snappier, and tempts the reader to find out more. ThirdWard (talk) 17:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
@ThirdWard: I've taken a look at the new Julliard citation and it's within Wikipedia policy. I agree with you that the ALT hook is better, so I think we should focus on that for the DYK.
I am still uncomfortable with ALT1 because the second half of the hook is not what is stated in the cited article or on the Wikipedia page. Also, the DYK instruction page says hooks should be "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article." I think ALT2 fulfills that criteria more effectively than ALT1.
If you want we can bring in another editor to review the hooks and bring another perspective.Z1720 (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

La Promenade (1870 Renoir)

A man and a woman hold hands while walking through a woodland

Moved to mainspace by Viriditas (talk). Self-nominated at 12:23, 23 April 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Nice article on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF. Hook: to me it looks more like playing with Rococo themes than "influenced", - I don't know what the sources say? - I don't know what exactly "high-key palette" is supposed to mean nor is it in the article. If the wording is from a source, please quote it in the article and use quotation marks in the hook, but I would prefer a simpler wording. I added (pictured). Is the painter intentionally not mentioned? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: It's all sourced in the article. Search for the following:

Influenced by the rococo revival style during the Second Empire...Throughout this decade, the eighteenth-century rococo art movement was back in style and Renoir embraced it...The image of lovers walking through a woodland is based on a popular rococo theme...Loyrette notes the influence of Monet in La Promenade and the change in Renoir's style since Les Fiancés (1868). The Impressionist influence on Renoir, Perrin Stein writes, led to his increasing use of the high-key palette. Renoir's "lightness and delicacy of touch" here is, according to John House, reminiscent of rococo artist Jean-Honoré Fragonard (1732–1806)...

To directly answer your question, Renoir was not "playing" with Rococo themes, he was directly influenced by them here for two reasons: 1) they were extremely popular and in fashion at the time and, 2) Renoir had a lifelong interest and devotion to the eighteenth-century style, "a model of an ideal existence in which art and craft thrived without the competition of industrialization and the growing rift between city and country". As the cited critics note, the painting depicts the older, but popular rococo theme of lovers walking through a woodland. The brushwork here is also reminiscent of rococo painter Fragonard. While Renoir had one foot in the past, he also had one foot in the future. The influence of the newer high-key palette of Impressionism on this work was due to several historical factors, including the recent technological innovations in pigments which allowed artists to closely duplicate the effects of sunlight on objects. This innovation, combined with Monet's influence on Renoir the year before this work was produced ("In 1869, Renoir and Monet spent time painting together at La Grenouillere") changed Renoir's approach to painting. His darker colors became significantly lighter. Per the sources, La Promenade is an example of this influence. To summarize, the hook illustrates the two competing visions of art found in this work: the themes made popular by the older rococo revival style during the Second Empire (when this was painted), and the newer Impressionist high-key palette made possible by recent technological developments in pigment production and the influence of Monet's style on Renoir. There's nothing controversial or disputed here. Viriditas (talk) 22:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict, response to first half of your comment:) Thank you for the exact sources, which I had no doubt existed, just I had no access to the wording. - We still have the term "high-key palette" which I don't understand. If you tell me that's my limited language and others will know what that means, fine. Otherwise think of a link or a simpler term. - I would prefer using "rococo revival" to "influence of rococo", - what do you think? - To second half: There is nothing "disputable", the question is how best to address the simple readers of the Main page - like me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: a link to rococo revival is probably OK, so no objection to that change. As for "high-key palette", that is the appropriate, albeit technical term for the Impressionist choice of color. You can read more about it at high key (which could also be linked). One of the reasons this is so important to the hook is the fact that this is one of Renoir's earliest Impressionist paintings, and the high-key palette is indicative of this style. To learn more about the high-key style, please see the following links:[8], [9]. Viriditas (talk) 02:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Gerda, per the above, I've changed the hook. Please review.[10] Viriditas (talk) 03:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the changes, but please, don't change a hook that has caused a discussion, because the discussion gets incomprehensible then. Write an ALT, - I do it this time:
ALT1: ... that La Promenade (pictured) shows the influence of the rococo revival and the high-key palette of Impressionism?
Symbol voting keep.svg I learned something new! - Consider to drop the link to Impressionism ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)






2011 Hot Lotto fraud scandal

Created by ViperSnake151 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I have my doubts whether this article qualifies for DYK. It seems to have been split out from the article Hot Lotto on 16th April, at which time it was 3358 B in length. It is now 5856 B, so not even double its original size. Have I missed something here? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:37, 16 May 2015 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on April 18[edit]

High Orbit Ion Cannon

  • ALT1:... that more than 27,000 volunteers joined Anonymous to attack the FBI and the US Department of Justice websites using the High Orbit Ion Cannon?
  • Comment: due to lack of DYK credits I am unable to review anything, I will grovel at someone's talk page (who does have such credits) so that they review this

Created by FreeatlastChitchat (talk). Self-nominated at 03:30, 20 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've started a review of the HOIC article. It's within the required date range, and is certainly long enough, and I don't see any issues with your hooks. However there are other problems.
The first are potential Copyvio issues that you should address. There are several instances of non-trivial identical wording between your article the sources it references:
Secondly, I started reviewing your citations with regard to the content they supported and found several issues in just the first few paragraphs. In the lead paragraph, "written in BASIC" and "Low Orbit Ion Cannon which was developed by Praetox Technologies" not supported by sources referenced. Additionally, "the security advisory for the HOIC was released by Praetox Technologies in February 2012" is not supported in sources referenced either. Did you mean "Prolexic Technologies" in that sentence?
You write "The HOIC was developed during the conclusion of Operation Payback by the hacktivist group Anonymous". However your source says "was popularized in recent years by the “hacktivist” group Anonymous", which is not the same thing at all. The statement "subsequently this part of the group launched Operation Leakspin" is not supported by the references source either, as the Boing Boing article does not identify the operation by name.
I didn't go farther in my review, as it was clear that the HOIC article could not pass DYK in its current form. I would suggest carefully checking all your factual statements versus the cited sources, fixing the possible copyvio issues, and additionally taking a look at your citations, as I noticed two were duplicates of each other ("Threat: High Orbit Ion Cannon" and "High Orbits and Slowlorises: understanding the Anonymous attack tools"). However, it is an interesting article, and I'm confident a revised version can pass.
(Please note that this is my first attempt at a DYK review. I may have gotten something wrong. Please alert me if I have. I am under no illusions as to my perfection!) Carl Henderson (talk) 06:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Prozess gegen die Juden von Trient

  • ... that Lessing J. Rosenwald demanded his literary agent spend any amount of money necessary to stop Prozess gegen die Juden von Trient falling into the hands of the Nazis?

Created by Ironholds (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is long and good enough, no copyvio and other problems. Good to go! Angelo6397 (talk) 11:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Pennsylvania State Game Lands Number 115

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 00:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - The provided reference ([11]) doesn't seem to back the fact. It certainly isn't in the text & I couldn't find it on the map either.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Mostly good to go, just need a clarification of the hook fact. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@ThaddeusB: It's on the map, pretty close to the center of the game lands. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 21:08, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


Lake Run

  • ... that the source of Lake Run is in Henry Lake, despite also being in Eagle Lake?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 00:32, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Although the proposed hook is not inaccurate, I would like to propose ALT1 as being more hooky?
  • ALT1 ... that the source of Lake Run is in both Henry Lake and Eagle Lake? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:32, 19 May 2015 (UTC)



Roaring Brook (Lackawanna River)

Nay Aug Falls on Roaring Brook

  • ... that Roaring Brook (pictured) flows through the Nay Aug Gorge, which is listed on the National Register of Geologic Landmarks?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 00:15, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This substantial article is new enough and long enough. Either hook could be used as both have inline citations. The image is in the public domain, the article is neutral and I observed no close paraphrasing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:22, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Qila-i-Kuhna Mosque

The mosque

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 10:36, 18 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough and long enough, and well-sourced from books throughout. The hook is interesting, and I assume good faith as the citation is from a book not available online. QPQ done. Image is free and will have appropriate detail when condensed to a small size. '''tAD''' (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg QPQ was not adequately done: newness, length, and hook citation is far from complete. Royroydeb, please either cover the rest of the criteria on the Rainwater review, or submit another one that does. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:52, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I have done it, have a look. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 08:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Royroydeb, two major components are close paraphrasing and neutrality, yet I see no mention of them in the new review. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:56, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: , Now check this Template:Did you know nominations/Bass Maltings, Sleaford. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svgThis is clearly good to go per The Almightey Drill, although i would add the article is neutral. Checked QPQ and it was updated accurately and the article was promoted.Blethering Scot 20:50, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on April 19[edit]

List of crossings of Rock Creek, K Street Bridge, L Street Bridge, Pennsylvania Avenue Bridge, M Street Bridge, Rock Creek and Potomac Parkway Bridge near P Street, Shoreham Hill Bridge

Several crossings of Rock Creek in 1973

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Note: I'm not sure if anything like this has been done before, but while making articles about unimaginatively-named and often closely-spaced bridges over Rock Creek, I noticed there was a rare opportunity to have five hooks referencing the same photograph. I've added two more to make a complete set. If possible I'd like this to go up on June 4, the 79th anniversary of the completion of the Rock Creek Parkway. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 04:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
  • That's an interesting submission. I am with you on trying out this innovative structure for the five articles that use the picture. I am not convinced to make a boring-bridges-only hook set, though. I think it would be best to split off Rock Creek and Potomac Parkway Bridge near P Street and Shoreham Hill Bridge and treat them as one or two separate nominations. I also think that the 'pictured' in the hooks should be more specific, e.g. pictured, centre for L Street Bridge. I also think that the DYK rule "picture must occur in the article" has to be fulfilled for all five articles in the hook set. Please let me know what you think. So far I have checked:
    1. Symbol question.svg K Street Bridge created on April 19, sufficiently long, picture does not occur in the article. Further, the picture does not depict the original version of that bridge, as the hook suggests, but a much more recent one. It should thus be reflected in the hook what exactly is pictured here. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
    2. Symbol question.svg L Street Bridge created 20 April, sufficiently long, picture is in the article. Hook should be changed to (pictured, centre) or something like this. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
    3. Symbol question.svg M Street Bridge 5x expanded on 23 April, sufficiently long. The picture does not occur in the article. Please also clarify if indeed the vicinity of M street is pictured here, or a fraction of M Street itself. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
    4. Symbol question.svg List of crossings of Rock Creek created 23 April, sufficiently long. Picture does not occur in the article. It should be stated in brackets which of the streets is the Rock Creek and Potomac Parkway that is supposed to be in the picture. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
    5. Symbol question.svg Pennsylvania Avenue Bridge 5x expanded on April 24, sufficiently long. Picture does not occur in this article. Also here should be stated in brackets which of the streets in the aerial picture it is. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
    6. Symbol possible vote.svg Rock Creek and Potomac Parkway Bridge near P Street I don't think this should be part of the hook set, as it does not relate to the picture. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
    7. Symbol possible vote.svg Shoreham Hill Bridge I don't think this should be part of the hook set, as it does not relate to the picture. --Pgallert (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the extensive comments. I thought it might be odd to have five hooks on the same topic and then have the last two or three be different, so I wanted to have the option of just having an all-bridge set. If consensus is to split the last two hooks off I'm open to that. Also, I think that under these circumstances it doesn't make sense to have the same image in all five articles; it's already in two. I actually went back and forth on whether to add (pictured, top) etc. so I've added them back. I've also switched out the K Street hook for another one about the current bridge. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 20:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • As someone who's been around DYK for a while, I can assure you that the proposed set is never going to happen. See WP:DYKSG#Rules of thumb for preparing updates, rules J2, J3, and J4. We only do sets of a single topic for special occasions such as Christmas or International Women's Day, and even then, the "topic" is broad enough that there are still hooks covering quite a variety of subjects. (And, no, the 79th anniversary of the completion of the Rock Creek Parkway is not such a special occasion.) We should generally not have any set containing more than one hook about bridges, and certainly never a set composed entirely or mostly of such hooks. You can make one or more multi-article hook(s); otherwise, the single-article hooks should run with just one in any given set. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 09:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • However, this really is a special case. For one, a multi-article hook does not work here because it would have to contain the word pictured five times. Further, I think there is no rule preventing a picture from reappearing at DYK, so what you are asking is to run the same picture five times, over a period of possibly several weeks. Would it then not really be better to sacrifice hook set diversity one single time? --Pgallert (talk) 10:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • No, I am most definitely not asking to run the same picture five times. Although pictures can appear more than once on DYK, there should be a reasonable period of time between such appearances, and it would be a lot longer than several weeks. If these hooks run individually in separate sets, at most one would be a picture hook. I would have no objection to a multi-article hook having more than one different (pictured), as long as it fit within the multi-article hook length limit. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

James W. Fifield Jr.

Created by Iselilja (talk). Self-nominated at 23:56, 26 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The reference used for this statement neither gives the date 1935 nor mentions the organization "Spiritual Mobilization". I suggest you propose a different hook or find a different source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


Sorapiss

Sorapiss

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 01:27, 26 April 2015 (UTC).

  • I love this kind of stuff Dr. Blofeld. I wonder if it would have more EV if the hook mentioned what cultural tradition and/or indigenous peoples the legend originates and if there is information on the precise monarch? But, this is really interesting...and no, I did not know.--Mark Miller (talk) 20:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Mark Miller: Thanks for the review. Searched for more information on the cultural tradition and also about which monarch. Could not find any more to add.--Nvvchar. 07:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)



Bug River property

Created by Altenmann (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC).

Military Working Dog Teams National Monument

Military Working Dog Teams National Monument

Created by Akjayintx (talk). Self-nominated at 08:06, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough (moved to mainspace 4/19) and long enough. Created by a brand new editor, so no QPQ is required. Hook is short enough, interesting enough and supported by an in-line citation to a reliable source. However, the reference list includes bare urls that need to be improved before this can appear on the main page. Also, the photograph has an appropriate license, but it is unclear whether the license covers the photograph, the sculpture depicted, or both. Note that the sculptor is Paula Slater and the photo upload is from a user named PBSlater28. Cbl62 (talk) 17:05, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm happy to make adjustments to the article, however please be patient as I'm quite new to this. Which bare URLs are you referring to that need editing, and what in particular is wrong with them? Also, the photo in the DYK was produced by the U.S. Air Force therefore no license is required. The sculptures depicted in the monument would be the property of the US government, so is a license required for the actual sculptures? The photo in the article by PBSlater28 is her own work and released. Apologies if I sound confused. Akjayintx (talk) 07:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
  • The last four sources listed in the "References" section consist of bare urls. These need to be placed into correct citation format. The other references are in good shape, so this should not be too difficult. As for the image, the Air Force may own the statue, but that may or may not include the artist's copyright. Do you know for certain that the image uploader is the artist? Cbl62 (talk) 16:19, 27 April 2015 (UTC)








Askam Borehole

  • ... that the Askam Borehole, which was built by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection, discharges thousands of gallons of acid mine drainage into Nanticoke Creek every minute?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 01:46, 19 April 2015 (UTC).


Articles created/expanded on April 20[edit]

Shang Yue

Shang Yue

  • ... that North Korean leader Kim Il Sung credited his Chinese teacher Shang Yue (pictured) with having influenced him?
  • Reviewed: Kek Lok Si
  • Comment: moved to mainspace on April 20

Created by Ceosad (talk) and Finnusertop (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 19:11, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

I'd really like to see some of that imported into the article nominated here, so that that hook can say something specific. EEng (talk) 20:14, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Done. It's a good suggestion; I've spelled out those influences now. There's a lot more from where this came from, as Kim devotes an entire section to this in With the Century. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 05:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)



Siganus doliatus

Scribbled rabbitfish

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:35, 25 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing. Both hook facts are cited to an offline article but its abstract confirms both facts. Personally I think ALT1 is more interesting and likely to attract clicks. Image is free and QPQ is done. 97198 (talk) 08:35, 26 April 2015 (UTC)



1991 All-Big Ten Conference football team

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, nominated in timely fashion, long enough, and no content issues with neutrality, verifiability, or close paraphrasing. Hook is verifiable and interesting and is an acceptable length. Though not directly related to the hook, but in the same area, I have a concern in the article with "Howard also swept the 1991 national player of the year awards ..." It would probably be more accurate to add "major" to say "major national player of the year awards", but is it definitive which ones are considered "major"? Alternatively, it can be reworded as: "Howard also captured multiple national player of the year awards in 1991 including ..."—Bagumba (talk) 00:28, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Pretty clear that Camp, Maxwell, and Heisman are the major national player of the year awards, but I tweaked per your suggestion. Cbl62 (talk) 03:01, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
OK.—Bagumba (talk) 06:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I also have a question on "The organizations selecting All-Big Ten teams in 1991 included the Associated Press (AP)." Are there other organizations besides AP? If not, it should be reworded to remove the plural "organizations". Isn't there a coaches poll, or did it started later?—Bagumba (talk) 06:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

1992 All-Big Ten Conference football team

* alt 1 ... that the 1992 All-Big Ten Conference football team included national passing efficiency leader Elvis Grbac?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article is long enough, new enough, and free of any major policy concerns (it is well written, well cited, neutral, and free of any apparent copyright-related concerns). Note, however, that one of the four references is behind a paywall, and I am thus accepting it in good faith. The hook and alternate are both short enough, interesting, neutral, and well supported by inline citations. I have a clear preference for the (first/main) hook, as it mentions players from more than one team, more appropriate for an All-Conference team article, I believe. Also, QPQ has been done. Everything looks set to me, and I think that this nomination is good to go. Nice job on the article! Michael Barera (talk) 01:21, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Limassol District

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 05:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Hook needs a severe rewrite: of in as in in. EEng (talk) 21:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Timios Stavros church, Pelendri, Limassol District






My Girl (EP)

5x expanded by 001Jrm (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC).

List of accolades received by Fashion (film)

Priyanka Chopra on the ramp for Mijwan fashion show in 2012

Created by Prashant! (talk). Self-nominated at 05:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg. At 1719 ch prose length, the article is long enough, posted by due date and hook well sourced. No copy vio detected. Img is free. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 06:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The hook is false. For example, she did not win an Academy Award for Best Actress. The image caption in the article says that she won every major "Best Actress" award in India, but there is no citation. There is a list of awards won, but as far as I can tell, there is nothing in the article to indicate that those are the only "major" awards in India. The prose portion of the article has zero citations. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 09:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Agree with Mandarax. As far as I can see, the hook is definitely subjective. Lead is completely unsourced. Vensatry (ping) 11:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Tweaked and provided a source.—Prashant 09:20, 23 April 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on April 21[edit]

William Honyman

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self-nominated at 14:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC).



1984 All-Big Ten Conference football team

1984 Heisman Trophy winner Keith Byars

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 25 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is New and long enough, with no content-related issues. Hook seemed to be good and interesting. No copyright problems and the sources are reliable. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 11:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


1987 All-Big Ten Conference football team

1987 Big Ten Coach of the Year George Perles

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:25, 25 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article is long enough, new enough, and free of any major policy violations (it is well written, well cited, neutral, and free of any detectable copyright issues). Please note that I do not have access to the Dave Blevins book, so I am accepting references to it in good faith. The hook is short enough, interesting, neutral, and properly cited in the article with inline citations. Furthermore, QPQ has been done, and the image used is freely licensed (CC-BY-SA-3.0), is used in the article, and shows up extremely well at small size. I think it would look great in the DYK section alongside the hook. All in all, I think that this article is good to go, keeping in mind my accepting of the Blevins book in good faith. Nice work! Michael Barera (talk) 01:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)







Tie the Knot (TV series)

Created by 001Jrm (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

Attacks on atheists in Bangladesh

Created by Nafsadh (talk) and Arr4 (talk). Nominated by Arr4 (talk) at 10:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

tighter etc. Johnbod (talk) 02:42, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the AL1. - Arr4 (talk) 07:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svgThis article is new enough and long enough, and well-sourced and neutral. However, the hook, as a summary of the whole article, is ambiguous. The article lists eight individuals, some of whom survived their attacks. Thus, ambiguity can be resolved simply by substituting "and" for "or". '''tAD''' (talk) 00:04, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

@The Almightey Drill: substituted. - Arr4 (talk) 01:04, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go '''tAD''' (talk) 01:06, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have returned this one from the queue as it isn't clear to me that all the victims were "atheists" - at least a couple appear to have been attacked for their political views, others are only described in the article as "secularists" which is not the same as "atheist". This one needs a closer look and I intend to check the sources more thoroughly tomorrow. Gatoclass (talk) 20:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Having taken a closer look at the sources for this article today, it seems that few of the victims of these attacks appear to be identified as "atheists", specifically. At least one of them was a member of a minority religious group! Some of the other listed victims appear to have been attacked for their political rather than their religious views. The list of victims itself therefore appears to be an example of WP:SYNTH. Consequently, I am struggling to see how this article can be promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 03:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

The article might still be salvageable - I might try to do so myself. Gatoclass (talk) 02:12, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

  • comment another blogger has been murdered today. I've moved the page to Attacks on secularists in Bangladesh - I was intending to do that a month ago but discussions here on the political angle have pushed me to finally do it. There is repetition in the background section currently. If someone wants to try to fix this up it would be good, there will probably be more news about the guy murdered today over the next 24 hours. -- Aronzak (talk) 08:52, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I think "secularists" is a much more appropriate description. And the new attack reinforces my impression that this is a significant phenomenon. I just need to read up a bit more on it before adding to the article, as it seems to have a number of aspects that are confusing and even contradictory - especially the government's stance, which seems to have been reported very differently depending on source. Gatoclass (talk) 17:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I am suggesting a new hook. Three persons killed in 2015 are confirmed to be atheists.(Source) -- Arr4 (talk) 05:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Just to reiterate - this article doesn't simply need a new hook, the article itself needs some work. The article's name hasn't even been settled on yet. But I would probably oppose any hook that labels the victims "atheists" rather than "secularists" in any case. Gatoclass (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 22[edit]

Charivari (Gruber)

  • ... that the title of the composition Charivari by HK Gruber, based on a Strauss polka, can refer to both rough music and an Alpine ornament?

Created by Wildbill hitchcock (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

  • ??Can't see either of those mentioned. Johnbod (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Now you see one ;) - sorry, I felt I had to nominate last minute and grabbed the first thing striking me, because I really didn't know for the longest time of my life what a Charivari is. Better description welcome. Now let's have a hook which is sourced, even if more boring:
ALT1: ... that in the 1981 composition Charivari by HK Gruber, based on a Strauss polka in perpetual motion, the mask of Gemütlichkeit "is gradually allowed to slip? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


Viddsee

  • ... that Viddsee was founded because Asian short films were being drowned out by other video hosting sites?
  • Reviewed: Doing...

Created by Sky Harbor (talk). Self-nominated at 17:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article was new and is long enough. Copyvio is unlikely and the article is backed up with sources. Hook is interesting with an inline citation. QPQ is still not done, though. 001Jrm (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Hi, 001Jrm. Currently editing from OuiShare Fest—I am currently reviewing a QPQ, though due to my Internet situation this might take a few days. I hope to have it up though before the end of the week. :) --Sky Harbor (talk) 10:41, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


Fighter Squadron RAAF, Seaplane Squadron RAAF

Supermarine Southampton of Seaplane Squadron RAAF

Created/expanded by Ian Rose (talk). Self-nominated at 04:27, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg One of these articles is a fivefold expansion and the other is new. Both articles are new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain and the hook fact has an inline citation to an offline source and is accepted in good faith. The article is neutral but I was unable to assess whether there were any close paraphrasing/copyright issues because I did not have access to the sources. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:48, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Just for the record, one of the main sources, The Third Brother, is available as a free PDF download via the URL under References. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:32, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Phoebe Nicholson

  • ... that actress Isabella Giovinazzo took extra acting classes in order to portray her Home and Away character Phoebe Nicholson's more vulnerable moments?

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:15, 25 April 2015 (UTC).


Tomb of Ture Malmgren

The bricked-up tomb of Ture Malmgren, in 2015.

  • Reviewed: Pentemont Abbey
  • Comment: Hook is cited in the first paragraph. Picture was taken by me, and fully released into the public domain.

Created by Stamboliyski (talk). Self-nominated at 09:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article new and long enought, QPQ done. However, while this is interesting local history and the photo fine, I have serious concern about the notability of this tomb as a stand-alone article in English Wikipedia. The sources are rather weak; two of the sources are blogspot entries by a local association focused on Ture Malmgren; another souce Hansson, Wilhelm is off-line, but seems to be a kind of local history magazine, the fourth source is a newspaper article from 1922. And the article doesn't really say much about the tomb; it mostly says that it existed, but Malmgren was not enterred there; and a lot of the rest is general background info. I am afraid it seems to me that the existence of this tomb and the photo should simply be merged into the Ture Malmgren article. - Pinging Stamboliyski - . Iselilja (talk) 12:15, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I'll withdraw the nomination here if you want, but it certainly is notable as a public monument in the city. The website of the local history association are used as I could find nothing other on the modern-day status of being bricked-up, since I didn't want to do original research for that. The other two references from that page could easily be replaced by more in-depth references to books and other publications, if I just decided to bother digging through my bookcase. The Wilhelm source is not a "local history magazine", it is a legitimate history book written by the author of several other publications, repeatedly re-published due to its high public outreach. The 1922 newspaper article is used for easily-accessible (to me) background info, and can easily be replaced (as above). The tomb is written about in a number of other sources, mainly newspaper articles and reports from the 1930s all the way until the 1990s. None of these are digitalized, and not easily accessible to me as I now live in a separate city. Stamboliyski (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
No, you should't withdraw it. I asked a question about this [(Notability issues and Reviews)] and it seems notability is not relevant for DYK; so I am passing this on to another editor for review. Sorry for the inconvenience. I also accept what you say about the Wilhelm source as a traditional RS.
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I am withdrawing from this review. Iselilja (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Apologies Iselilja – I'm not all too familiar with the processes here. Thank you for showing concern Stamboliyski (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
You shouldn't apologize, either ;) It was my fault who brought up the notability issue which doesn't belong in DYK. I just just have skipped this; so that's not what I am doing now. Hopefully, you get another reviewer soon. Iselilja (talk) 18:47, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


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Clementine Krämer

  • ... that Clementine Krämer attempted to flee Nazi Germany to the U.S., Denmark, China and Cuba before being sent to the concentration camp where she died?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:35, 23 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough (yesterday) and long enough (2.8k chars). Neutral sounding, with two references - one of which points to the other, written by the subject's nephew (in German). Hook is stated and sourced. QPQ done. Could you explain the close paraphrasing in the article from the first reference, under Biographical Note? Fuebaey (talk) 23:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Fuebaey: Sorry for the very late response – I guess I forgot to put this page on my watchlist. I've had a look at the article and the reference and Earwig's copyvio detector doesn't show any significant phrases that appear identically in both texts. Could you point out the parts that you think are too closely paraphrased? 97198 (talk) 13:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on April 23[edit]

List of microbiota species of the lower reproductive tract of women

Created/expanded by Bfpage (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

  • This is list article, so I am uncertain whether or not it adheres to the requirements of being a possible DYK. Since it is a list article, the prose sections are sparse, but the list of 39 species of microorganisms is very apparent.   Bfpage |leave a message  19:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
@Bfpage: It is ok in terms of length of prose as it contains >1500 characters excluding the tables. I would advise you to change the first sentence, we no longer start lists with "This is a list of....". Maybe something like the "The lower reproductive tract of sexually mature women who are not immunocomprised is a microbiota where a number of normally non-pathogenic microbes are found." I don't know much about the subject so feel free to correct me if I phrased something wrong. Cowlibob (talk) 06:17, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg This list is new enough and long enough. Going with ALT1 as its safer not to state a precise number. The article is neutral and I don't believe there is any close paraphrasing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Isla San Telmo

Created by Wkc19 (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 01:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Hook is pretty boring. I would suggest one on either the submarine shipwreck or something from the history section would be more interesting
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg No problems with the article itself - would you mind suggesting a new hook? (Or I can, but then I wouldn't be allowed to review it.) --ThaddeusB (talk) 18:39, 6 May 2015 (UTC) @ThaddeusB: Name a hook which isn't boring? The point is the article not the hook or am I missing something all these years?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

  • @ThaddeusB: Thanks for the review. How about this ALT1 Hook? ... that the Japanese intended to destroy the strategically important Panama Canal in 1942 with the submarine whose wreck was found on the beach of Isla San Telmo? --Nvvchar. 07:04, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
@Nvvchar: On closer examination, it does not appear that the article is accurate. Page xxi-xxii of Delgado does report the German conclusion as stated, but it appears that this was just an educated guess by a non-archaeologist diver. The real origin of the submarine, as reported on page xxiv is the American Civil War. Hence the title of the book, "Misadventures of a Civil War Submarine". See also this news story and our article on it. The San Telmo article will need fixed and linked to the sub's article. --ThaddeusB (talk) 16:27, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @ThaddeusB: Thanks. A very fine link. I have added to the text as suggested. I am now proposing two alternative hooks with an image.

Hull of Sub Marine Explorer Wreck in Panama Canal

ALT2 ... that Jim Delgrado of the Vancouver Maritime Museum established that the wreck (pictured) in the coast of Isla San Telmo was the Sub Marine Explorer, the first of its kind called an "iron coffin"?

ALT3 ... that the wreck (pictured) found off the coast of Isla San Telmo was established by Jim Delgrado as the Sub Marine Explorer, first of its kind designed by a German engineer? --Nvvchar. 09:50, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


Sedition Act (Singapore)

  • ALT1:... that Lee Kuan Yew was one of the lawyers acting for eight university students charged with sedition in 1954, before he became Prime Minister of Singapore?
  • Reviewed: Kadru.
  • Comment: This article was expanded from a sandbox version on 23 April 2015. The hook is referenced by footnotes 102 and 103, and the ALT1 hook by footnote 101.

5x expanded by Amanda Lim Wenying (talk), Bellyftw (talk), Lm.ong.2011 (talk), and Vilaivongse (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:41, 26 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are reliably sourced and accepted in good faith and either hook could be used. The article is neutral, but it was not possible for me to assess whether any close-paraphrasing was involved because of lack of access to the sources. I accept Smuconlaw's statement that the credited students were involved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:15, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Andrés L. Mateo

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 01:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svgArticle is new and long enough; QPQ done. It is inline cited to reliable sources; no major issues with close paraphrasing discovered via spotchecks. The hook fact though is pretty much a copy of the source; but I believe it is too short to qualify as copyvio. It is kind of interesting; though the article doesn't tell anymore about the novel; so those who find the hook interesting may be a bit disappointed. I don't see any other particular obvious hook options in the, so approving this with a slight rewrite (present tense skipping parantheses). Though not a critical issue for DYK approval, the last paragraph, Reviews, it pretty badly written, and part of the second sentence is for instance almost incomprehensible to me ("pessimism felt in the country in the development and futherance of social norms was due to political reasons which had resulted in the decline in the "Golden age" perception of the country"), so I hope this could be improved somewhat. I also think the section maybe should be called "Views" or similar, rather than Reviews, as it doesn't really consist of reviews. I see it's translated from Spanish Wiki. Almost GTG, but pinging Dr. Blofeld for comment. Iselilja (talk) 16:27, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Iselilja: Thanks for the review. Section heading changed to 'Views'. The sentences are corrected. Hope it meets your observations.--Nvvchar. 06:40, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Approving this article based on Iselilja's review and my inspection of it. I think all requirements of DYK are met. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:26, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


John B. Hogenesch

  • ... that John B. Hogenesch is responsible for discovering the only essential circadian clock gene in humans?

Created/expanded by SnydeEcology (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC).


Articles created/expanded on April 24[edit]

Sweet Adelines International competition, Sweet Adelines International chorus competitions, 2010–2019

Rönninge Show Chorus

Created/expanded by Wittylama (talk). Self-nominated at 09:26, 25 April 2015 (UTC).


Jermaine (Adventure Time)

Created by 23W (talk). Self-nominated at 04:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC).




Articles created/expanded on April 25[edit]

1984 All-Big Ten Conference football team

1984 Heisman Trophy winner Keith Byars

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 25 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is New and long enough, with no content-related issues. Hook seemed to be good and interesting. No copyright problems and the sources are reliable. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 11:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


I Wish My Teacher Knew

  • ... that when a grade-school teacher gave her students a writing assignment "I Wish My Teacher Knew ___" the answers went viral and sparked a movement?

Created by ThaddeusB (talk). Self-nominated at 01:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Created 25 April, nominated 3 May. This is outside the 7 day window and is thus unfortunately ineligible. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:34, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Surely being an hour late is not a big deal, after all Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy. (It was still May 2 in my local time, so easy mistake to make.) --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Symbol confirmed.svg Ignoring the aforementioned slight tardiness of the nomination, the article is long enough and compliant with core Wikipedia policy (it is well written, well referenced, neutral, and free of any apparent copyright-related issues; the only phrases to trip the Duplicate Detector are a couple of useful direct quotes). The hook is very interesting, short enough, neutral, and properly supported with cited content in the article. Also, QPQ has been done. To me, this article looks good to go. Nice work! Michael Barera (talk) 02:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Sine Cerere et Baccho friget Venus

Venus and Cupid are freezing, as a satyr arrives with a fruit bowl

Created by Furius (talk) and Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 02:33, 1 May 2015 (UTC).


Archaeological Museum of Lamia

Marble Aphfrodite at the Archaeological Museum of Lamia

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 18:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Just a note to observe that as I've taken out the line about Eros and Psyche for lack of context, the hook above can't be used in its current form. Prioryman (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Gold exhibits at the Archaeological Museum of Lamia


Henry Bradford Endicott

Henry Bradford Endicott
Add caption text!

Created by BrianCUA (talk). Nominated by Briancua (talk) at 23:02, 27 April 2015 (UTC).





Articles created/expanded on April 26[edit]

Claudico

  • Reviewed: Isla San Telmo
  • Comment: A better hook should be available in a couple days when the bot finishing its match against top human players Hook updated

Created by ThaddeusB (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is long enough, just about recent enough (it looks like it was nominated eight days after creation; I'd be happy to let it slide if everyone else is OK with that), and free of any major policy issues (the article is well written, well referenced, neutral, and free of any blatant copyright violations; note that a couple of the quotations are on the long side, perhaps too long). The hook is short enough (barely), interesting, neutral, and properly referenced with inline citations in the article. I believe that a slightly simpler version of the hook could be preferable; perhaps "... that Claudico is an artificial intelligence computer program that won a heads-up No Limit Hold'em poker championship for computers, but was defeated by a team of humans?" Just a thought. Getting back to details, QPQ has been done. If everyone is OK with letting the slight tardiness of the nomination slide, as well as the long quotations, I think that this article will be good to go. Michael Barera (talk) 03:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Riken Yamamoto

Main building of the Future University

Created by WoodElf (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article currently contains only 481 characters of prose (the list of works doesn't count). It will need to be brought up to at least 1500 characters to be featured on DYK. --ThaddeusB (talk) 18:06, 5 May 2015 (UTC)





Homework in psychotherapy

  • ... that homework helps patients practice the skills they learn in therapy?

Created by Marigold Measurer (talk). Self-nominated at 05:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC).




Articles created/expanded on April 27[edit]

Hodad's

  • ... that former co-owner of Hodad's, Mike Hardin, died in 2015, causing the restaurant to close and members of the community to create a makeshift memorial in front of the Ocean Beach restaurant?

Created by RobBertholf (talk). Self-nominated at 15:01, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

We need to mention to article in question with a link, please, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Oops, sorry about that! @Rob talk 02:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
No need to be sorry, it's simply that a reviewer needs to know what to review ;) - I bolded it. Thank you for adding, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! :) @Rob talk 23:53, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Adam Fleming (businessman)

Created by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC).

  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - The hook does not appear to be cited in the article.
  • Interesting: Green tickY

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg A very interesting hook that caught my eye, but the character count and cites are an issue. Sorry that I'm having to ask this, but this is my first DYK review, and I don't know whether the length limits have to be met in the seven day period or whether they can be fulfilled afterwards. BenLinus1214talk 02:20, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out with reviews. Since WP isn't a WP:BUREAUCRACY we do all we can to let a nom be successful. Therefore, if in the next coupla weeks Edwardx can bring the length up to par (it's now 1250 chars, so another 250 are needed), plus fix the other red Xs seen above, no problem. He should ping you when the article's ready for you to look at again. EEng (talk) 05:11, 20 May 2015 (UTC)



Embodied bilingual language

Created/expanded by Gmercuri (talk). Self-nominated at 02:53, 28 April 2015 (UTC).


Self-embedding

5x expanded by Jmoreno3 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is a fivefold expansion which is new enough and long enough. The hook fact is referenced inline. The article is neutral but I was unable to assess whether there was any close paraphrasing because of lack of access to the sources. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Visual Capture

  • ... that ventriloquism is believable not just because its performers are good at what they do, but because of visual capture?
  • ALT1:... that what you see can completely change what you perceive in an environment because of visual capture?

5x expanded by Gramos3 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC).



Mary Jane Veloso

  • ... that Mary Jane Veloso was sentenced to death for importing 2.7 kg of heroin into Indonesia?
ALT3: ... that Mary Jane Veloso was supposed to be executed together with Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran, and Rodrigo Gularte but was spared by a last minute 'miracle'?
ALT4: ... that the mother of Mary Jane Veloso believes her daughter was spared by a 'miracle'?
ALT5: ... that the Change.org petition to have death row convict Mary Jane Veloso released had reached 250,000 signatures?

Created by Shhhhwwww!! (talk). Nominated by Roches (talk) at 11:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Article is new enough (created 4/27). Hook is short enough and interesting enough. However, when you eliminate headings and footnotes, the article is 1,500 characters. Of that, about one-third (500 characters) is made up of a list of famous people calling for her release. IMO the list of celebrities should be discounted as constituting narrative text. For this to qualify for the main page, there really ought to be at least 1,500 characters of true narrative text. Please see if this can be expanded a bit. The execution is scheduled for tomorrow. Whether or not that happens, there should be ample material with which to expand this over the next few days. Cbl62 (talk) 16:15, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Thank you for expanding the article so that it now exceeds 1500 characters. However, the newly-added alt 3 hook is problematic in that (i) the assertion that she was saved by a "miracle" is not set forth in the article (DYK requires the hook fact to be found in the article), (ii) the "miracle" assertion appears be non-factual (the article says she merely received a temporary stay of execution to allow her to testify against another), and (iii) the portion of the new hook detailing the persons with whom she was scheduled to be executed seems unremarkable. Perhaps another hook? Cbl62 (talk) 10:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry for interrupting your conversation, but I would want to suggest a hook, if I may:
ALT6: ... that Mary Jane Veloso, a name which can also mean marijuana drug, was convicted for allegedly smuggling heroin, another kind of drug?
There are no citations nor mentioning in the article but I believe it'll be easy to add/fix that. Good luck! 001Jrm (talk) 23:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
On second thought, my alt might offend others... but I'll just let it stay there just in case it's not....:/ 001Jrm (talk) 02:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)


Behavioral Game Theory

Created/expanded by Griffoman444 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Note: page renamed behavioral game theory in keeping with WP naming conventions. Hook should be updated accordingly. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 12:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I took the liberty of fixing the hook capitalization and the lack of categories in the article. In any case, it is new enough (moved from user sandbox to article space on the nomination date), long enough, well-sourced, and appears to describe the subject neutrally. The hook is sourced (e.g. in the lead section) to an offline source, but that's ok per WP:AGF and in any case there is no room for doubt about its accuracy. Spot-checking found no issues with copied prose or close paraphrasing. This appears to be the nominator's first article, so there is no QPQ needed.
However, the "Examples of games used in behavioral game theory research" section is completely unsourced; it's only a list of links, but the links go to articles that do not necessarily mention the behavioral game theory aspects of those example games. I think this section needs, for each of the games listed, a reference for the fact that this game has been used in this subject (either a survey that mentions it or it would be ok to cite primary research sources for this purpose). —David Eppstein (talk) 06:04, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink

  • ... that between the ages of 21 and 23 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink was unable to win a contract in professional football?

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:20, 6 May 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 28[edit]

1921 Michigan Wolverines football team

1921 Michigan Wolverines football team

  • Reviewed: pending

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:22, 5 May 2015 (UTC).



2015 Baltimore protests

Protest at the Baltimore Police Department Western District building

  • ... that within an hour of being taken into police custody, Freddie Gray lapsed into a coma?

:* ALT1:... that as children, Freddie Gray and his sisters were found to have lead poisoning in their blood levels?

Created/expanded by Grand'mere Eugene (talk). Self-nominated at 04:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Not sure this is a great idea for DYK. ALT2 is definitely a poor choice—it's completely irrelevant to Gray's death, but seems to imply he was recently poisoned or that it was involved in his death. More generally, with this being such a current event, putting it in DYK will probably just come across as political. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:15, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg - Agree that this is not in good taste for a DYK, and is way too soon considering it's a breaking news story. -- Fuzheado | Talk 02:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Given the stability issues of this article, plus the fact that the hooks are insensitive to Gray's family, I suggest withdrawal. Epic Genius (talk) 02:32, 28 April 2015 (UTC) (edited 02:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC))
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Bad timing to have this, we should think of the family. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:52, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Too sensitive a topic for DYK, already covered under In the News. ViperSnake151  Talk  05:38, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @ViperSnake151: Not really. Many opposed featuring it on Main Page's ITN, so it's not featured at this time. George Ho (talk) 08:38, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg I agree this DYK is not now appropriate for reasons cited above. When George Ho asked me about nominating it, the protests had just begun on April 25, and the article was more stable. I request withdrawal of this nomination. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 09:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Wait... Give it some more weeks. This isn't a voting discussion or something like that. Yeah, now is not the time to approve or promote mainly due to the nature of the topic. However, rejecting it now is also not the right time. So is requesting withdrawal. Why impatience nowadays? --George Ho (talk) 10:23, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • But then we would need another hook. All three alts given are too insensitive. How about:
  • Yeah, not too good, since people in the US already mostly know about this, but not too insensitive, either. Epic Genius (talk) 13:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • If this DYK goes forward, the lead poison alternatives should be replaced since that info is not well-integrated into the narrative, and seems irrelevant. I've offered a replacement hook; perhaps in the next days/weeks we'll have better perspective on whether to go forward with it, and if so, what an appropriate (i.e., less insensitive?) hook would be. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 16:46, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • How about these:
Also, I am nominating 2015 Baltimore riots for DYK. Here is my QPQ for that article: Template:Did you know nominations/Party of the Democratic Revolution. (Pulling the QPQ out into another nomination page.) --George Ho (talk) 06:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Sounds a lot better than my hook. Epic Genius (talk) 13:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The article, "Death of Freddie Grey", has been featured as part of ITN. Therefore, it's no longer eligible for DYK. There's still hope. The link to the other article that I'm nominating is not bolded in ITN, so it's still eligible. --George Ho (talk) 04:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Because I added another related article originally intended to be the 2nd article for one hook, I moved the nomination forward to April 28. Although the nomination page is titled this way originally intended for already-featured article, I'd still want to retain the other article without creating a separate nomination page. George Ho (talk) 04:14, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Reverted back.Changed to "protests". George Ho (talk) 20:20, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


Georgiana Howard, Countess of Carlisle

  • ... that Lady Carlisle said of the pickpockets in Dickens' stories, "I am very sorry for it and am very much shocked at their mode of life, but I own I do not much wish to hear what they say to one another"?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, plenty long enough (I'm glad it was!), policy compliant. Copyright? Well, I can't access many of the sources but I can see the article being built up and everything feels fine to me – the tone is consistent. Hook source has to AGF by me. The hook is actually a bit too long, isn't it? 219 characters. But it's a good hook and it would be a shame to spoil it. Does this matter? The rules say it does so I need to query it. No image being proposed. Images in article tagged OK. QPQ OK. Very nice to read, thank you. Thincat (talk) 20:01, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I've trimmed the original hook down to (I think?) 202 characters. So hopefully that works? Thanks for reviewing! Ruby 2010/2013 20:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg and if someone really insists they can remove "the" from before "pickpockets"! Thincat (talk) 20:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Short hooks are really preferable to long, and removing the "the" makes it less meaningful. How about:
  • ALT1: ... that when she was first presented at court, the future Lady Carlisle made a splash in her court costume accentuated by the Cavendish diamonds? Yoninah (talk) 23:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Eh, the alt hook isn't really accurate (and "splash" is so subjective). I still hope the original hook will be accepted, but if not, how about this? Ruby 2010/2013 01:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that the Duchess of Devonshire refused to employ a wet nurse for her eldest child Lady Georgiana Cavendish, a decision considered unusual for the era?
  • It's a pity texting wasn't part of a young lady's education in Georgiana's day. I don't know how big a problem 200-character hooks are on the main page. It may depend on what else is there. I'm not so keen on alt1 but alt2 is technically acceptable (source offline as with the original hook, which I still prefer). I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to put another blue tick somewhere. Thincat (talk) 08:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you, @Ruby2010:, ALT2 is definitely an improvement. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 11:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


Bean chips

  • ... that bean chips may be prepared from a bean-based dough that is steamed, sliced and then deep-fried?

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:13, 28 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook fact has an inline citation, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:54, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

1922 Princeton vs. Chicago football game

Created by MisterCake (talk). Self-nominated at 09:18, 28 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article measures only 1,198 characters and is too short for DYK as it stands. --Bcp67 (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Oops. Hopefully that's fixed. Cake (talk) 22:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Now measures 1800+ characters but around 350 of them are direct quotes, and I have also found some phrases directly taken from sources - e.g. the story about Gray's father hitting a woman with his programme taken from here [12]. I still don't think there is enough new content in the article to qualify for DYK but have only just started reviewing again so I'd be happy to have a more experienced reviewer look at this.--Bcp67 (talk) 09:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Maybe I can tweak the quotes so they don't come off as a copy-paste job. I would be reluctant to just delete them. Walter Camp was the preeminent authority on the sport, the play by Gray swung the contest, and Stagg not subbing with his son is cited often to show his sportsmanship–as well as was a bit of a scandal for Chicago fans. Cake (talk) 18:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on April 29[edit]

South Bay Salt Works

  • ALT1:... that over 94 species reside at the salt ponds of South Bay Salt Works?
  • Reviewed: As of this DYK nomination I have a dozen DYK credits. As such I have reviewed the nomination for the article Royal Air Force Marine Branch (diff).
  • Comment: I began work on this article on 29 April, and for this review am considered to have completed expanding this article today, 3 May; this length of time is under the seven day limit. I have exceeded expansion of this article beyond the five-fold requirement; prior to my first edit the article was all of 256 characters, a true stub; as of my last edit to the article prior to creating this nomination the article is 6075 characters (not including the infobox and primary section titles), this is an expansion of twenty-three fold! The article has not been featured, to the best of my knowledge, in the past in other main page sections; nor is it a translation from other wiki sources. The article exceeds the long enough requirement, and hook 1 is 91 characters in length, while hook 2 is shorter at 79 characters in length. Nearly all sentences of the article are verified to reliable sources, and this article has no BLP issues that I am aware of.

5x expanded by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 12:08, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

Here is a possible image for the first hook. South Bay Salt Works montague.jpg Caption can be "Buildings of South Bay Salt Works".--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 12:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Here is a possible image for the second hook. Thalasseus elegans -Port of San Diego -flock-8b.jpg Caption can be "Elegant terns at the salt works".--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 12:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Rodrigo Gularte

Created by Roltz (talk). Nominated by Shhhhwwww!! (talk) at 04:52, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg long enough, no copyright issues, properly ref'd Djflem (talk) 10:37, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The article given as a QPQ for this nomination is in fact another article nomination by Shhhhwwww!!. Shhhhwwww!! needs to review another article, not write another one.
  • Numerous paragraphs in this article do not have at least one cite, per DYK rules. Yoninah (talk) 22:36, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg There is no requirement for a citation per paragraph. Appear to be no other nominations by Shhhhwwww!! making that less than five.Djflem (talk) 20:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The one cite per paragraph guideline is Rule D2: The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the intro, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content.
  • A glance at User talk:Shhhhwwww!! shows much more than 5 DYK nomination credits. Yoninah (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2015 (UTC)


Stallerhof

  • Comment: I couldn't see any other interesting hook possibilities, if it's too vulgar for some (which is understandable!) open to further alt suggestions.

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:59, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

Reviewed 2003 Cricket World Cup Final

Symbol question.svg Article is new and long enough. No copy-vio detected by this tool. However, this sentence "Sepp the aging farmhand sits on the toilet and masturbates" in the article looks like nearly copied from this source. As for the hook, I don't see a problem with it as it doesn't seem to violate NPOV. Vensatry (ping) 19:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
I added two people to the credits without whose idiomatic English the article would not be what it is, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Fort Kosmač

West side of Fort Kosmač

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 21:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Prioryman: The hook sentence appears to be missing an inline citation, or am I just missing it? Please ping me after you address this so that I can continue with the review. Length, date verified. All non-lede paragraphs have refs; all refs appear to be RS. No apparent close-paraphrasing. QPQ done. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Rosiestep: Oops, you're right - I don't know how I left out the word "southernmost" from where it was supposed to appear in the article. I've added it to the 2nd para of the "Background" section. Prioryman (talk) 06:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @Prioryman: could you please add an inline citation(s) to support the hook? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Hook's offline ref accepted AGF by seasoned editor. Images are from Commons and the exterior ones are very nicely done. Let's make this the lead hook to include the img; I think it'll get a lot of hits. GTG. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The first paragraph under Background needs a cite, per Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 17:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you. Restoring tick per Rosiestep's review. Yoninah (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)



Long Night (Kim Hyung-jun song)

  • ... that the songs in Kim Hyung-jun's Japanese single "Long Night" were used as Korean OSTs before and after the single was released?

5x expanded by 001Jrm (talk). Self-nominated at 05:00, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

Chips and dip

Crab dip and potato chips

  • ... that chips and dip (pictured) gained significant popularity in the United States circa 1954 in part due to an advertising campaign that promoted using Lipton's dehydrated onion soup mix to prepare dip?

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Expanded by Bfpage. Nominated by Northamerica1000 at 02:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

:* ALT1: ... that chips and dip are partly to blame for increased mortality due to influenza contracted during Super Bowl games? (added by User:Bfpage on 03:36, 29 April 2015‎ (UTC))

  • Content in ALT1 is not supported in the article. In the article, it states "A study from Tulane University suggests that flu mortality increases in cities hosting the Super Bowl when people share drinks or chips and dip at parties during the height of influenza season" (italic emphasis mine). The study suggests the notion, whereas ALT1 states the suggestion as fact. North America1000 03:30, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • There is a tertiary source to the Tulane research article that quotes its results. So there are two references cited for that statement. But you are the one who has the experience and know how when it comes to DYK nominations and discussion. You also have about 200,000 more edits than I do. I withdraw my alternate 'hook' out of admiration and respect for you and your experience. The very Best of Regards,   Bfpage |leave a message  23:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. Going with the original hook for the reasons stated above. The image is appropriately licensed, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Peter Wilmshurst

Created by JzG (talk). Self-nominated at 07:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg interesting read - couple of things, JzG I presume that you've nominated less than 5 DYKs in your wikicareer? If not, you need to review someone else's. Also, a ref needs to appear at the end of the sentence mentioning libel (either the very first sentence or one in para 1 mentioning libel from company 1 as company 2 is reffed - DYK is specific about a ref at the end of the particular sentence. otherwise date and size ok and material is clearly faithful to sources. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
You're right, I don't use DYK much (admin since 2006 and so few DYKs! What an under-achiever). However, I thought I'd give it a go, since it amazed me that we did not already have an article on this chap. Are you saying libel needs to be cited in the article? I brought the cite closer to the term, it was already sourced of course. Guy (Help!) 13:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg yep, that's good. tally ho then...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg The hook, at 231 characters, is too long. It should be fewer than 200 characters. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 03:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I was going to propose another alt but realised the last fact isn't even cited. Fuebaey (talk) 15:52, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 30[edit]

Józef Pluskowski

Created by Lugo55 (talk). Self nominated at 14:11, 13 May 2015 (UTC).

Porter County Memorial Opera Hall

Main Entrance to the Porter County Memorial Opera Hall

5x expanded by Chris Light (talk). Self-nominated at 19:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Unfortunately, this article has only been expanded from 1429B to 5583B, which is not the five-fold expansion required for DYK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


The Next Step Beyond

Created/expanded by Inkwell765 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:50, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg By the DYK rules, an article has to be at least 1500 B long. This article is 1060 B which makes it too short, because I am afraid only the text part counts towards the count. Is there any chance you could lengthen the prose part a little? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

R136a1

R136a1 in the exact center of cluster R136

  • ... that R136a1 (pictured), located in the Large Magellanic Cloud, is the most luminous, most massive, and one of the hottest known stars in the universe?

5x expanded by I am. furhan. (talk) and 142.177.125.72 (talk). Nominated by Exoplanetaryscience (talk) at 20:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC).



Niuean mythology, Fao (god)

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 16:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC).


Block Island Wind Farm

Created by Djflem (talk). Self nominated at 05:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svgThe article was new (April 30) and long enough. Copyvio is unlikely though there is a paragraph in the article wherein it's almost copied from this source. If you may, please edit the sentences from 'Design and capacity' section. Most of the sources in the article have bare URLs, so if you may fix those too. The hook is interesting, but there are no inline citations given after it was mentioned in the article so there's no way I can verify that. (I'm guessing it's this source?) QPQ is done. 001Jrm (talk) 00:34, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


The Icelandic New Business Venture Fund

  • ... that the performance of The Icelandic New Business Venture Fund was described as "disappointing" in 2006 even though it managed to fund the Blue Lagoon, a major tourist attraction in Iceland?

5x expanded by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 23:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC).



Big Red Riding Hood

  • ... that Yao Yuan Hao swam in a lake on a cold day for a scene in Big Red Riding Hood, then ran a half marathon in his birthday week?

Created by 001Jrm (talk). Self-nominated at 06:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC).


Articles created/expanded on May 1[edit]

Urmila Matondkar filmography

Matondkar at a promotional event, 2010

  • ... that apart from her acting skills, Urmila Matondkar (pictured) gained popularity for her accomplished dancing skills?

Created by Prashant! (talk). Self-nominated at 08:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The entire television section is unsourced. The hook is very similar to a sentence in the ref. "Apart from her acting skills, Urmila Matondkar is known for her dancing.". The picture used in the nomination is not present in the article. Acting debut is said in the lead as being Kalyug but a Marathi film is listed first in the table, this fact is also unsourced. In fact the lead is almost entirely unsourced. Refs have numerous title errors. This article requires some serious work. Cowlibob (talk) 05:54, 17 May 2015 (UTC)



Jade Helm 15

  • Reviewed: Not a self-nom, QPQ not required

Created/expanded by Fuzheado (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 20:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

  • @Muboshgu: Under the current rules, QPQs are required for all nominations (except for those by new users), not just self-noms. Do you wish to provide a QPQ or withdraw the nomination? --ThaddeusB (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Must've missed that rule change. I'll provide one shortly. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:55, 17 May 2015 (UTC)





Cameron Park (Waco)

Created by Ducknish (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook fact is cited, the article is neutral and I detected no close paraphrasing or other problems. I do not believe that Ducknish needs to do a QPQ review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)



Price Creek, Pancoast Creek

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 18:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New (28th), long enough, neutral, no copyvio found via spot check but be careful of close paraphrasing even from the older sources, QPQs done but I noticed that many of your recent reviews did not check for QPQs, so something to consider. Hook facts check out (3b) but it doesn't appear to make sense. If Pancoast is a tributary into Price, and Price is the one that has culm contamination halfway down, why would we care that Pancoast has no culm? Instead it could be phrased that Pancoast contributes sewage and Price adds culm, if it's even still true. How does notability work on this stuff? The creeks don't appear to be the subject of independent commentary, unless there is some kind of content guideline that covers them. czar  21:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Earwig results show 13% for Price Creek and 5% for Pancoast Creek. Almost all PA streams are notable, but even if they weren't, it would probably pass GNG (I don't even know what a non-independent source for a geographical feature would be). I don't know what you have against the hook, but it could possibly be split. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 20:04, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Independent commentary as in discussed on its own—I wasn't talking about independence from the subject. Didn't know about NGEO, which is why I asked. What is Earwig? I don't have anything "against" the hook—I explained what I felt was unclear about it. czar  23:54, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
@Czar: As I have said, I have no objection to splitting this nomination, if you think that would make the hooks more interesting. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 20:57, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
It may not be necessary if you can clarify what I said I didn't understand above. Feel free to split if you would prefer. – czar 21:00, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

SS Irish Willow (1918)

  • ... that on 16 March 1942 (the day before St Patrick's Day), St Patrick was toasted in the conning tower of U-boat U-753 as they awaited orders from Germany whether or not to sink the Irish Willow?
  • ALT1:... that the Empire Breeze was torpedoed and its crew were in lifeboats, in dense fog, and search and rescue missions by the rescue ship Stockport, the rescue tug HMS Frisky (W 11) and the Canadian corvette HMCS Rosthern (K 169) were all abandoned, and they were rescued by the Irish Willow (using direction finding equipment rather than dead reckoning)?

Created by Lugnad (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC).


Deepwater Horizon (film)

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. No offense, but the hook is pretty dull. There are lots of true stories about disasters. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I agree the main hook is fairly dry, and the ALT1 hook is little better. Rather than the hook being essentially "a film about X is being made", I've stumbled across another interesting fact during expansion, and propose:
    • ALT2 ... that the upcoming disaster film Deepwater Horizon will be the first onscreen pairing of Kate Hudson and her step-father Kurt Russell? --Animalparty-- (talk) 00:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
      • @Animalparty: Much better. I've stricken the other hooks. Minor nitpick: the source doesn't say that Russell is Hudson's step-father (perhaps it should be obvious and I'm just being dense?). --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 14:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a bit complicated. Russell is married to Hudson's mother, Goldie Hawn, making him her stepfather in the basic definition, yet she apparently refers to him as her father, and some sources use "father", even though her biological father is not Russell (I've seen "adoptive father/daughter" as well but don't know if this is accurate). Thus it may be a non-neutral POV or even WP:SYN either way- "father" seems to be the actress' preferred term though it may confuse readers, while "stepfather" seems more accurate yet disagrees with source. If there is a succinct way to avoid "picking sides", I'm all for it. --Animalparty-- (talk) 15:08, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Oh wait, apparently Russell and Hawn are in a relationship, but not verified as married, so "stepfather" appears unwarranted. My mistake. Any usage we use should be least likely to cause confusion or controversy. --Animalparty-- (talk) 15:15, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


Independence Day 2

  • ... that the sequel to the 1996 film Independence Day is set to be released on the 20th anniversary of first film?

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 11:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Recently mainspaced, not long enough (see below), neutral, no copyvio found via spot check, no QPQ. Hook doesn't have an immediate ref in article (see 3b). But primarily, the hook is not eligible per WP:DYKR:

    If a new article incorporates text copied from another Wikipedia article, then it must be expanded fivefold as if the copied text had been a pre-existing article.

    czar  20:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Czar: But it was being created in draft and was mainspaced later. I added half of the content my self in this article, it was expanded more than 5x. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I understand, but even if we use the smaller July 2014 ID1 version as the baseline (which preceded the draft and was copied over in November), the draft was not expanded 5x the length (would need to be at 13k characters and it's at 4.1k). czar  12:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Captain Assassin! One of the main problems with this as a nomination, or as a separate article, is that the bulk of the article was copied verbatim from Independence Day (1996 film). Under "Production", the entire first paragraph and half of the second one are identical to the 1996 film article. There's nothing wrong with doing that within Wikipedia, as long as Template:Copied is used as an attribution on the talk pages of both articles. You might want to add the attribution, because it's not on either article. However, because that prose appears in both articles, it would appear to disqualify the newer article for DYK. Please feel free to ask about this on Wikipedia talk:Did you know if you like. — Maile (talk) 21:02, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
@Maile66: Thank you. I know it was copied and it still existed on the 1996 film article, but it was supposed to be trimmed after adding the development details to the sequel article. So, would it be better if I shortened the sequel development text in 1996 article? Will it work for DYK then? Everyone knows that we write sequel's development details on the first articles and then cut and paste to the sequel articles. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:32, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Symbol delete vote.svg What's left in the 1996 article doesn't change that the new article is based on content that was already published. It's not even a bad thing, it just means that the article is disqualified for DYK right now. Lots of other stuff in the pipeline. czar  12:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

13 Hours (film)

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, nowhere near long enough. Hook is another X is about Y hook. Not very interesting. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:29, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Are you going to come up with another hook? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:53, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
  • You aren't getting it. Saying that "X is a film about Y" isn't interesting, unless there's a reason why it's remarkable or unusual that someone would make a film about Y. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
  • This is what you aren't getting Jakec. I've suggested two more hooks, which stated the interested facts. Isn't it interesting that the film is about the 11th anniversary attacks of 9/11 and a US Ambassador was killed? --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 09:24, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Look at it this way: why should I be surprised that there is a film about it. Sure, I "didn't know" that there was a film about it, but it's not in any way remarkable. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 11:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Jakec: You think, I need a new reviewer here? I'm in DYK more than a year and I've never heard of this type of issue before. No offense, but personally I think you are being very aggressive on my nominations. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • You're perfectly free to request a new reviewer. Just use {{subst:DYK?again}} or post to WT:DYK. I suspect that nobody has called you out on your DYK hooks before because your earlier hooks were, well, mostly interesting. Or at least in some way remarkable. But consider this: you probably didn't know that Sterry Creek is a tributary of the Lackawanna River. It's new information for you. But would you be interested in a hook that just said ...that Sterry Creek is a tributary of the Lackawanna River? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 16:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Now I get it. I shall request Yoninah then, to extract a better hook from the article. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg ALT3: ... that it took nearly 4 months to cast the first 8 stars of 13 Hours? Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry to rain on the parade, but that isn't mentioned in the article. It lists eight cast members who joined between January and May (which is quite possibly more like 3-3.5 months, but whatever). It doesn't say that those were the only eight cast members. For all I know from reading the article, eight people joined the cast in January, but the article only mentioned one. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 09:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!: it's really hard to find a hook in this article because at present all it is is a list of casting and filming notes. Do you have any other material to add to it? Please also note that a Google search comes up with another film and Wikipedia page, 13Hrs. Perhaps a disambiguation notice should be placed on both articles. Yoninah (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I'm searching. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

How to Be Single (film)

Created by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 08:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg A stub (barely 500 characters) with only one sentence that is referenced. Half of ALT0 isn't even mentioned in the article and neither hook is referenced. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:38, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Jakec: Will you please wait a couple of days, so I can expand it? Actually I nominated five other articles and I'm expanding all now. Thank you. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Okay, though I strongly suggest your bring your articles up to scratch before nominating them for DYK. That aside, ALT1 does verify, though it seems a bit dry ;-). With regards to ALT0, the article says that Barrymore was first set to produce, but then was set to direct. It does say that someone else took over the role of director, but doesn't say that Barrymore was going back to producing. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg QPQ? czar  19:57, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


Ralph H. Cameron

Arizona Territorial Delegate Ralph H. Cameron
U.S. Senator Ralph H. Cameron of Arizona

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC).


Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]

Pratapaditya Pal

Created by Abecedare (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 6 May 2015 (UTC).

Marco Archer Moreira

  • Reviewed:

Created by Roltz (talk). Nominated by Shhhhwwww!! (talk) at 06:19, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

Lady Strangford

Viscountess Strangford

  • ... that Lady Strangford (pictured) is honoured in Bulgaria for the work she did following the Batak massacre?
  • ALT1:... have a go and be a co-author
  • Reviewed: QPQ = Eclipse article
  • Comment: anyone speak Bulgarian? There are some sizeable sources in Bulgarian and a sizeable wiki-article on the Bulgarian wiki

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC).



Animal Rights Without Liberation

  • Comment: This fact is in some ways a summary of the whole article, but is explicitly mentioned in the reception section, cited to both Clifton and Ebert. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:10, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Moved to mainspace by J Milburn (talk). Self-nominated at 10:10, 2 May 2015 (UTC).


Aztez

  • ... that Team Colorblind left tutorials out of their upcoming beat 'em up Aztez so the player would feel empowered, "like a badass"?

Moved to mainspace by Czar (talk). Self-nominated at 22:30, 2 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, within policy, and QPQ done. Article is currently under-discussion for deletion but I think it'll pass. Good to go. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg - No longer under deletion review but I would suggest: ALT1: ... that Team Colorblind left tutorials out of their upcoming beat 'em up Aztez so the player would feel "like a badass"?
The original hook reads as even more childish than the ALT1. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)




Overjoyed (album)

5x expanded by 001Jrm (talk). Self-nominated at 05:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Although everything else is OK, there are two big problems, in my opinion:
  • The article was not 5× expanded, only around 3× expanded the week before 2 May (it would have to be 25,000 bytes long to be expanded five times)
  • The article is overly reliant on primary sources, which aren't normally considered to be so reliable, especially if used a lot in a article, according to WP:RS

Good luck at improving this article further. Yours, Tomandjerry211 (Let's have a chat) 21:21, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks for reviewing. I believe it had been expanded 5x times from 547 B/94 readable prose to 3055 B/542 readable prose (which is 320 words more than the 5x minimum or 2735 words - non-prose not included). I nominated the article on DYK right after expanding it... which is on the same day. (May 2 at 05:15 - expanded --> May 2 at 05:19 - nominated the hook). As for the sources, I believe I added more secondary sources (Tower Records, Oricon, Korean Star Daily, barks.jp, etc.), than primary sources (Pony Canyon, YouTube). 001Jrm (talk) 02:40, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Chicken in the Rough

5x expanded by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC).

United Kingdom general election, 2005 (Northern Ireland)

5x expanded by Fuebaey (talk). Self-nominated at 04:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good. The expansion from May 1 to 6 is large enough, and the article seems free of POV and other policy issues. The hook is interesting and well-cited (I like the first option, myself). QPQ is done. Ready to go, I think. --Coemgenus (talk) 13:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on May 3[edit]

Marni Hodgkin

  • ... that the children's book editor Marni Hodgkin was the daughter and wife of Nobel Prize winners?
  • Reviewed: tbc

Created by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Long enough, new enough. At a glance, no copyright/paraphrasing issues. QPQ needed? (Not sure if you've had 5 DYK credits already.) References are a bit unclear. The sentence that states she was Rous's daughter mentions several facts, not all of which are in the referenced NNDB page on Hodgkin. The NNDB page for Rous seems a better source for the fact that she's his daughter, given that the sentence doesn't even mention Hodgkin. And maybe cite the Guardian article for the "eldest of three daughters" part. Also not clear where the information that she met Hodgkin while he was working at the Rockefeller Institute is coming from. Hook-wise, why not name and link both laureates as well?
* ALT1:... that the children's book editor Marni Hodgkin was the daughter of one Nobel Prize winner (Francis Peyton Rous) and the wife of another (Alan Lloyd Hodgkin)?
--Difference engine (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Komm, Gott Schöpfer, Heiliger Geist

Beginning of hymn in the Erfurt Enchiridion

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC).



Fighting Irish (Family Guy)

Liam Neeson

Created/expanded by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 23:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Three things: The citation fact must be directly cited in the article, and although the episode itself can be used to cite the fact, another source should be used. Second, combining two facts together which are not combined by an external source is synthesis. Third, the sourced content in the article is less that the 1,500 characters required for DYK because the plot is completely uncited. It would help if some of the plot was also cited. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:26, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr.K. The hook was cited, but at the end of the next line, which may have been confusing. From this source: "This isn't the first time Neeson and his work have been lampooned on the show. Voice actor John Viener poked fun at Neeson's hopelessly unconvincing American accent in the episode "Prick Up Your Ears," while Neeson himself made a brief appearance last year in "Brian's a Bad Father." This episode offered Neeson a far meatier role as an antagonist to Peter." — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Almightey Drill (talkcontribs)
Yes, but the source does not say "despite", that's where the synthesis lies. Can you fix that? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:54, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Brilliant! But I can't pass a hook on my own nomination. '''tAD''' (talk) 05:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. Could another reviewer sign off on ALT3? Yoninah (talk) 09:01, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The in-article hook does not have the verb "promised" or equivalent. The article curently states that The show's staff were excited by the prospect of having Neeson say any line that they wrote but imo this does not count as a "promise" on Neeson's part. The source has something to that effect but the article has to be modified to reflect it. Sorry about ALT1. When I fist saw ALT1 it didn't quite sound grammatically perfect but given I was on my vacation countdown I thought that any imperfections would be tweaked at the prep area. By the way pings don't work on templates. I just saw this from my watchlist. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 15:55, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
The source says that Neeson "was game" to say any line they wrote. Could we paraphrase that as "agreed" to say? Then we could have:
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Both ALT4 or ALT5 are ok with me. Thank you very much Yoninah for your excelent work. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)



Vaginal evisceration

Created by Keilana (talk) and GorillaWarfare (talk). Nominated by GorillaWarfare (talk) at 04:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC).

  • How about we skip the photo? EEng (talk) 22:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Agree We aren't censored but I think we shoud keep that off the main page... EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 02:24, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Heh, that's fine, I forget that not everyone is used to seeing gory surgery images all the time... Keilana|Parlez ici 16:15, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Works for me. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:18, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Removed. EEng (talk) 23:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Nice article – date, length, references, QPQ and close paraphrasing check are all fine. The only issue is that the hook fact should be stated explicitly in the article. I recommend stating simply that evisceration is a complication of vaginal hysterectomy immediately before introducing the 63% statistic. In the epidemiology section, you also need to place a reference immediately after the sentence that claims that the complication is rare. It would also be ideal to add links to the article from other articles, so that it isn't orphaned, but that's not a necessity for DYK. 97198 (talk) 12:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Also, how do you feel about rewording the hook to make the bolded article the subject and use less jargon:
@97198: I like ALT1, and I think the hook is stated explicitly: "typically subsequent to vaginal hysterectomy, and especially as a consequence of sexual intercourse after the surgery". Should I make it more explicit? Keilana|Parlez ici 15:43, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
I also prefer ALT1; vaginal hysterectomy is the actual term for the procedure, and the article section to which it links explains the concept well if a reader is unfamiliar. I also agree with Keilana that the citations seem sufficient—the Matthews and Kenton reference supports "Though it is a rare complication, as the popularity of laparoscopic hysterectomy has risen, the rate of vaginal evisceration has also risen. Vaginal cuff dehiscence occurs in 0.24–0.39% of cases; of these, vaginal evisceration occurs in 35%–67%.", and it seems redundant to duplicate the reference in two consecutive sentences. The Cronin cite supports the 0.032–1.2% statistic directly. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)



The Last of Us Remastered

Improved to Good Article status by Rhain1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

Double tee

Double-tee roof

  • ... that double tee beams (pictured) were first used in 1961 by an architect experimenting with new structural elements for his own office?

Created by Z22 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough, (barely) new enough, and the article looks well-cited and neutral. The hook is supported by a cite. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]

Shooting of Brian Moore

Created/expanded by Everymorning (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC).

  • I'd like to suggest that the article be further developed at least to the point at which we can have a hook saying something more than that this officer was killed -- which, though sad, isn't all that unusual. Hooks are supposed to be interesting, not alternative ITNs. EEng (talk) 18:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I have proposed an altblurb below that discusses something other than him simply getting shot and killed, based on what was in the article already. I hope this is interesting enough. Everymorning talk 22:14, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that thousands of police officers from around the United States attended the funeral of Brian Moore, an NYPD officer who was shot in May 2015?
Even that's not all that unusual, but it's something at least. I wish you'd told me about this a few days ago, because it would have been a great day to rob a bank somewhere (other than NYC, of course). EEng (talk) 00:38, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Curtis Culwell Center attack

Created by Benbuff91 (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 00:14, 9 May 2015 (UTC).

  • The problem with these hooks is that the answer to "Did you know" these two things is, "Yes, we did know." Can't something interesting be said about this incident, beyond that it happened? EEng (talk) 18:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I'll provide more if none of above pleases you. George Ho (talk) 20:21, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I am not, and do not wish to be, the All-High DYK Arbiter, but I like ALT4 best by far. I've CEd to remove the attacker's name from the hook -- with the mother still alive I think it's a bit too close to putting her name on WP's main page. EEng (talk) 20:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I copy edited ALT3 for its length. --George Ho (talk) 03:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

List of accolades received by 7 Khoon Maaf

Priyanka Chopra at a promotional event for 7 Khoon Maaf, 2011

Created by Prashant! (talk). Self-nominated at 15:06, 6 May 2015 (UTC).



Cullerlie stone circle

Cullerlie stone circle

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 06:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Image has a free licence and is good quality. Article is well referenced. Hook is correctly formatted. I am getting an error on the Aberdeen link and all of the Google books links. Are the links to page previews or just to the general Google Books page? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:22, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: Google Books seems to be down at the moment - people are complaining about it on Twitter. The Aberdeen website seems to have partially gone down as well, though the referenced page is still viewable in the Google cache. Prioryman (talk) 06:33, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Apparently the solution is to change .com to .co.uk or .ca or .fr which makes the page viewable. I hope .com will be restored soon or an awful lot of links on Wikipedia are going to be dead. I will continue your review when I have a moment. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:57, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: Just a reminder that this review is still outstanding... Prioryman (talk) 20:48, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I see Google Books is back. I will finish it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:51, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg I am AGFing some of the more technical archaeological material. AGF on offline refs 4 & 5. I detected no close paraphrasing or copy vios. Good to go. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)



Katherine Sophia Kane

Created by Smirkybec (talk). Self-nominated at 17:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC).

  • The article meets the relevant criteria of date and length. Sources are reliable and the hooks are properly sourced. I've had to make a number of changes (including moving the article to a new title) as your treatment of names didn't comply with the manual of style - in particular, article titles should always use a person's proper name, not their title. For that reason, neither of the hooks above will work, so I've stricken them and suggest using the hook below. Prioryman (talk) 06:54, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that the botanist Lady Katherine Sophia Kane was the first woman to be elected to the Botanical Society of Edinburgh?
  • Alt2 looks good, I feel the honorific may be avoided here. I am removing the DYKtick above, as it needs a reviewer. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Please don't move nominations if the target article's title has been changed - it confuses and potentially breaks the DYK update bot. I've moved it the nomination back to the original name for this reason. Prioryman (talk) 14:10, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Alexander Zaldostanov

Zoldostanov in 2012

  • Reviewed: pending ...

Created by The Interior (talk). Self-nominated at 05:26, 4 May 2015 (UTC).



Long Live the Royals

Created by 23W (talk). Self-nominated at 00:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg, QPQ done, article of accepted length, cited article and hook, successfuly expanded 5 times, article is neutral and passes other required policies. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 09:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Haven't provided a QPQ yet—will do soon. Thanks for the review. 23W 03:52, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Royroydeb: QPQ now done; thank you for your patience. 23W 17:47, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on May 5[edit]

Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue

Created by Swanstone (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:27, 10 May 2015 (UTC).

The Rapes of Graff

  • Reviewed: This is my first DYK nomination—my understanding is that I won't have to fulfill QPQ.
  • Comment: Expanded from redirect

5x expanded by BenLinus1214 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:31, 11 May 2015 (UTC).

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Scott's (restaurant)

Scott's restaurant

  • Reviewed: To be done

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 10:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Article is new and long enough. Hook is interesting (I've tweaked it a bit). No copy-vio found. Awaiting QPQ. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 05:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)



Grasshopper

Young grasshopper on grass stalk

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 08:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC).

Two eastern Lubber grasshopers

Symbol voting keep.svg Substantial article on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF. The hook needs the citation right after the sentence, please. I think the image of a couple looks more interesting. Open to a hook about that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Gerda. There is an inline citation for the hook fact in the last sentence of the first paragraph in the section "Jumping". As to the other image you have proposed using, we could have:
Thank you for doubling the ref. ALT1 is not as exciting, - I would still prefer the second image (which has "mating" in the title, because the other of course also doesn't show catapulting.
Symbol voting keep.svg - Hope to see the article for FA ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)





Private Apartments of the Winter Palace

Bedroom of Maria Alexandrovna

Created by Giano (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

  • "designed after a fire as a palace inspired by a model" -- huh? EEng (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2015 (UTC)





Zainab Sultan Begum

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 6[edit]

Keqrops

Created by Ron Oliver (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:56, 19 May 2015 (UTC).


Molybdenum ditelluride

Created by Graeme Bartlett (talk). Self-nominated at 23:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC).

Seothyra

capture webs of a Buck spoor spider on a sandy track

  • ... that the webs (pictured) of buck-spoor spiders can look like hoof prints or four-leaf clovers?

Created by JMK (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 11:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svgCorrect person credited, nominator performed QPQ; just scrapes by for newness for nomination time; big enough; all paragraphs have a citation. The hook is in the article, but the closest citation (J. Scott Turner) does not include the fact. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:28, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Supplied a reference that the web is clover-shaped. Another reference states that there are two (cf. cleft hoof) or four sheet webs, and the "four-leaf" clover follows directly from that. JMK (talk) 07:07, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg confirmed that the cited reference includes the facts. Also confirming image is in the article and that it is free. Good to go. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:50, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


Augusto Nicolás Martínez

  • ... that Ecuadorian agronomist, geologist, researcher and educator Augusto Nicolás Martínez has a college named in his honor in Ambato, established on 29 December 1994?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 09:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting career, I trust you with the Spanish sources. I confess to be not at all interested in the day of the establishment. Can we turn it around:
ALT1: ... the college in Ambato, Ecuador, is named for Augusto Nicolás Martínez, an agronomist, geologist, researcher and educator?
I repaired the link in the original. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt:. Thanks for the review and edit. ALT1 Hook is fine.--Nvvchar. 14:39, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


Rhytisma fulvum, Marionia levis

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC).


Kirkton of Bourtie stone circle

Kirkton of Bourtie stone circle recumbent stone circle

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 07:28, 8 May 2015 (UTC).

  • The image seems to be missing from the nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I added one originally but it didn't work so I removed it, but evidently forgot to take out the "pictured". Fixed now. Prioryman (talk) 06:46, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg There are some problems with this nomination. For a start, the article says it is the largest such stone in Scotland while your hook states largest in the British Isles. The hook fact does not have an inline citation but is presumably covered by the #2 reference. Trying to check for the fact I searched for "Kirkton of Bourtie" and "Bourtie" in the source book without success. The article also states that the stone is "aligned with the setting point of the moon", but both the sun and the moon set at a variety of points of the compass ranging from south of southwest to north of northwest! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:13, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: I have a hard copy of the source book, so I can confirm that the hook fact is covered by the #2 reference. The circle is said to be "remarkable in [having] the longest of all such stones". (Note that I've changed "largest" to "longest" in the hook. I've also decided to take out "in the British Isles" as it's redundant - recumbent stone circles are only found in the British Isles). As for the alignment, Burl says the recumbent stone "would have been quite well aligned on the major southern moonset". I've changed the wording in the article to reflect this, as it seems to be a bit more specific than just the setting point of the moon. Prioryman (talk) 17:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Right then, this article is new enough and marginally long enough. The hook facts are sourced, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
The image, added since I approved this nomination, has a suitable license. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:09, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Dampiera linearis

Dampiera linearis

5x expanded by Casliber (talk) and Melburnian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 11:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg 44 characters short of a 5x expansion. Article was 440 char before expansion began, and 2156 char as of the latest edit. Yoninah (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Ok - up to 2243 chars now. (was counting words...)Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. AGF on mostly offline sources. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. Image is freely licensed. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 13 May 2015 (UTC)


A Walk Across America

5x expanded by Georgejdorner (talk). Self-nominated at 17:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC).


Chants for Socialists

Created by Dennisthemonkeychild (talk). Self-nominated at 11:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC).

Juan Rivera (wrongful conviction)

Juan Rivera

  • ... that "exoneree" Juan Rivera (pictured) found proof of evidence tampering when his shoes, which had the victim's blood on them, also had DNA from the real killer?
  • ALT1:... that "exoneree" Juan Rivera (pictured) was excluded as the source of DNA evidence found at the scene of a rape and murder but was convicted anyway?
  • ALT2:... that "exoneree" Juan Rivera (pictured), who was wrongfully convicted of the murder of 11-year-old Holly Staker, was awarded $20 million USD, the largest wrongful conviction settlement in US history?
  • Reviewed: Coelastrea aspera

Created by Bali88 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:31, 9 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Exonoree is a neologism, and a hideous one at that. Please rewrite, EEng (talk) 18:48, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
You are welcome to suggest additional hooks, although I think it is fine the way it is. The Innocence Project uses exoneree quite frequently and I believe there is no impediment to understanding. If you have alternative suggestions, please post them. Bali88 (talk) 20:18, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
It's without question a neologism. Subject to your objection I've put in quotes in the hooks, which I think solves the problem. EEng (talk) 00:32, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Works for me. Bali88 (talk) 01:17, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg - Article is ready for final review. Bali88 (talk) 02:02, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]

Synageva

  • ... that Synageva, a company with no marketed products and a net loss of US$60 million in the most recent quarter, recently entered into an agreement to be sold for $8.4 billion?

Created by ThaddeusB (talk). Self-nominated at 23:11, 14 May 2015 (UTC).

James Campbell (of Burnbank and Boquhan)

Moved to mainspace by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self-nominated at 14:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC).


Martin Declaration

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 16:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC).


2014 Ninoy Aquino International Airport bombing plot

Façade of NAIA Terminal 3

Created by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 18:33, 10 May 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Why you didn't use the image in the hook? Angelo6397 (talk) 12:40, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Parliament House (Malta)

Parliament House under construction

Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Self-nominated at 12:33, 8 May 2015 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg substantial info on good sources, pic free and helpful. I prefer the ALT, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 19 May 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on May 8[edit]

2015 Spanish Grand Prix