Talk:A113

Don't know if this one counts: in the Family Guy episode "Fore Father," Christoph watches Peter on monitor A-10113. ShutterBugTrekker 23:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Picture

Is there any way someone can get a picture of this room or the sign for the room at CalArts? Paul^C/_T+ 04:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC) I have a picture of A113. Unfortunately A113 is no longer animation, it is now design. The animation has moved out to some other buildings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.155.58.181 (talk) 00:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

A113 in deep deep trouble

I dont remember exactly but I think in the Simpson's song 'deep deep trouble' Bart's police mugshot number was A113...

It's in the music video for "Do the Bartman." --DOHC Holiday (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

infobox?

is the infobox really necessary? What's its purpose? SpikeJones 01:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Removal of section

I have removed the section on A113 so-called "sightings" because it appears to constitute entirely original research. If reliable sources indicate these "sightings" are, in fact, each individually related to the in-joke described in the lead section of the article, then these sources should be presented, and the "sightings" restored. Otherwise, the article cannot remain a receptacle of every, possibly coincidental, occurrence of the alphanumeric string A113 in popular culture. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 03:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I have reverted edits by Silly Rabbit. A113 appearances do not constitute original research. Their appearances are verifiable in the primary sources in which they appear. This article is not a receptacle of every A113 occurrence in popular culture. Only occurrences in projects created by CalArts alums are included. As the most prolific animation school in the US, CalArts alums reside in each studio responsible for A113 appearances. Silly Rabbit, your edit was destructive rather than instructive. Please, out of good faith, first notate that a page is in need of sources and give a proper amount of time to allow for the requirement to be met. ~an A113 alum —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.226.93 (talk) 04:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The appearance of the alphanumeric string "A113" is not enough to warrant inclusion in this article. The article is making a particular conclusion that this string is an "Easter Egg" in a film. Without textual references to support this contention, inclusion of any film in the list constitutes original research and should be removed pending verification by reliable sources. Even if it is verifiable that the film involved some CalArts studio alumni, it should still be properly sourced. I will leave the {{OR}} tag on the article for one week. If you do not provide the additional sources you claim to have at your disposal by that time, then I will remove the section again. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 14:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I challenge your authority to make such a unilateral decision. I am submitting this to the media RfC board.--Carterhawk (talk) 03:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to make an RfC. In fact, more eyes are clearly needed. I think this is a fairly textbook case of an original research violation, and I am curious to see what the media RfC respondents will say about it. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 03:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Should a list of A113 appearances in visual media be included in the article?

• Comment. As an involved party, let me clarify my own position. The issue is not whether the alphanumeric string "A113" occurred in a particular piece of media or not. Indeed, if this were the case, then clearly WP:OR would be the wrong policy entirely, and we could just appeal to WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The issue is that the article is either implicitly or explicitly claiming that the occurrence of this string in each of these works is an "Easter Egg" of the CalArts studio. I believe that this implicit claim needs to be verified by a source for each film listed, and that it is inappropriate to list examples found "in the wild", as the article currently seems to do. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 03:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Why remove the entire section? The source states that it appears in all works which Brad Bird has a hand in. This includes Ratatouille, The Incredibles, The Iron Giant, Family Dog, Amazing Stories, and The Simpsons. John Lasseter, personal and professional friend of Brad Bird, and another A113 alum, helped to create The Brave Little Toaster, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, A Bug's Life, Cars, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo. CalArts A113 alum Craig McCraken created The Powerpuff Girls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.226.93 (talk) 09:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

• Here is a question, is there another reliable source that publishes a list of every movie that Brad Bird placed A113? If not, then we are creating original synthesis, and publishing something novel for the first time. While we can say that Bird claims to add the string in all his projects, we cannot conjecture that his classmate does it as well, nor simply watch a movie and say "hey, I think I saw A113, so I'm going to say as much on wikipedia". There is no way for our readers to verify that. We need reliable sources for this information, simple as that.-Andrew c ^[talk] 13:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I have found a June 2008 interview with Andrew Stanton of Pixar, in which he states that it has appeared in all Pixar movies as well as works of his classmates. I'll add this to the article when I have time. This, along with the quote of Brad Bird which says he has put it in all of his movies and two specific TV shows, is enough. Andrew Stanton has stated it appears in all Pixar works as an in joke amongst A113 alums. Brad Bird states that it appears in all of his works as an in joke amongst A113 alums. The string does in fact appear in all Pixar works. The string does in fact appear in all Brad Bird works. Why can't these appearances remain in the article? It is unnecessary to require that each Brad Bird and Pixar work have it's own individual citation. Andrew Stanton and Brad Bird say it appears in ALL Pixar and Brad Bird works, not some. If you take issue with it's appearance in South Park, Lilo and Stitch, etc, fine, those can be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.226.93 (talk) 18:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

You say that Brad Bird and Andrew Stanton say it appears in all Pixar works. This is not supported by the existing references in the text. What is supported by the current text is, according to the Brad Bird interview, "I put it into every single one of my films." So by the current references, only Brad Bird films should be listed. If additional references are given, then additional films may be added. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 16:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I should also add that, with this comment in mind, most of the films will still be removed since most of them are not Brad Bird films at all (even the Pixar ones will go). Also, if Bird made, for instance, an episode of Tiny Toons, then a reference needs to be provided for that (imdb is fine). Currently, there is just too much unverifiable information in the article. I will wait a little while longer until the RfC has received sufficient exposure. After that point, I will remove the things which are not compliant with the WP:OR and WP:V policies. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 16:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I understand you have a strong deleltionsist stance, however, would it not be preferable to simply add ^{[citation needed]} notices to each reference that hasn't been verified? This would both inform readers that the information may be suspect, as well as encourage editors to find sources for each reference, without losing any information.--WCarter (talk) 18:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, if anyone can perhaps, contact some of the higher-ups at pixar to verify these spottings of A113, that would be very helpful. --WCarter (talk) 19:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, no. There is only one reference in the entire article, which is used to support the claim that A113 is an easter egg in Brad Bird films. I thus have no problem at all listing Bird films. However, the rest of the article, without more references, is a clear violation of the WP:OR policy because it draws the conclusion that other potential sightings of the alphanumeric string are the result of a deliberate act by a CalArts member. The former is a readily verifiable fact, whereas the latter is an unattributed synthesis. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 21:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

A head's up - A113 in Disney's new animation

Just a heads up for an "A113" I just noticed in the new trailer for Disney's "The Princess and the Frog". (The film isn't released until Dec 09 so it's too early to mention it in the article just yet.) Anyway here is the trailer on YouTube and you can see "A113" on the front of the trolley car at 1:59 in the clip. Manning (talk) 09:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

A113 in Terminator: Salvation

I didnt see this in the article, but in the beginning of the film, while Connor and the Resistence are looking through Skynet's files for the T-800 R&D project, A113 appears as part of the login password on a Resistence officer's laptop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.244.37 (talk) 23:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Not in Monsters, Inc.

I've seen the "Sign seen in the background when Sulley sees Smitty and Needleman loading the trash compactor" posted in a lot of places, but it simply isn't there. I've watched the original DVD and hi-def version many times. I've done frame-by-frame, and "A113" is definitely not in that scene. Guytoronto (talk) 17:18, 24 July 2011 (UTC)