Talk:Abrahamic religions

Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), not the founder of Islam..He was the last and final messenger..

Nomansem (talk) 06:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)MENTIONED BELOW ARE THE MAILS SENT BY ME...

As Salam Alai Kum Brother, Nafsadh I do not know why you are reverting and re editing my post in ABRAHAMIC RELIGION in the Wikipedia. Are you not aware of the universal fact that Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)was not the founder but the last and final messenger of GOD. Why then post information which is not authentic and do not match the Holy Qur'an. If other reasons/cause then please justify and ellaborate.

Dude..

What do you mean by how to deal with Islamic Articles…??? I agree with the fact that that we need to act slowly and effectively but you are stating untrue facts.. Moving slowly and effectively does not justify that you can state absurd and illogical facts in your article..

NO where does the Wikipedia policy states that you mention points which are untrue.

I am new to Wikipedia so do not know how can I talk to you in WP, I don’t want to hide behind a bunker and attack on your article, I am openly protesting against it.

Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is the last and final messenger of ISLAM, not the founder of ISLAM. If you are ignorant about the fact then I am mentioning some links below, please go through them and edit your article, or I will have to take befitted action against the stated fact.

http://www.institutealislam.com/comparative-study-between-islam-and-hinduism-by-dr-zakir-naik/ CHECK UNDER THE TOPIC MISCONCEPTION ABOUT ISLAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDDEyJ-YsFg

The Qura’an mentions “When truth is heard against falsehood, falsehood perishes because falsehood is by its nature bound to perish”

Therefore, brother spread Truth not falsehood.

Dear,

I am figuring out as to how can I talk on the page. I also don’t believe in sending personal mails, the moment I learn how to chat on WP, I’ll post all the mails on it. I think you do not believe in the Qur’an and the Hadith, Insha Allah I will quote you certain verse of the Qur’an which state that Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was the last and final messenger and not the founder of Islam.

I will remain as enthusiastic as I am, it’s sad to see that Muslims themselves are maligning their religion, I do not care about the topic and POV or NPOV, I simply want you to change the information about Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). He is not the founder of Islam, if you think he is, then please I would request you to cite reliable source, rather than just stating what you feel like.

Nobody asked you to believe in ZN, you always can verify it from the scriptures. The Qur’an is the authentic source, be logical, do not try to justify points which are not true.

Thanks, you did not disclose my replies. & plz try to put a sign after you post on talk. » nafSadh did say 15:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• Every scholarly source, every historian, without exception, states that Muhammad was the founder of Islam (unless a few, such as Crone and Cook, attribute it to Umar or Uthman), just as Moses founded Judaism and Jesus Christ founded Christianity (although there's more debate about that than there is about Muhammad). Don't you see the circularity of your thinking? I'm a Muslim, therefore I believe in the Koran and sunnah, the Koran and sunnah say this, therefore it is The Truth, because I am a Muslim and believe in the Koran and sunnah. NPOV is of paramount importance on Wikipedia: whether your religious beliefs coincide with the scholarly research or not, just because "Muslims believe Islam is the primordial religion doesn't make it true in any sense: see WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:SPS and urreligion. The Koran isn't a reliable source. The majority of the world believes it to be fiction, and is a reliable source only for referencing what itself says about itself, and then may still fall under "improperly uses religious texts as primary source". Islamic myths and traditions (hadith and Koran) do not an encyclopedic article make. Secondary scholarly references doth make an encyclopedia. By that logic, I can write an article called "the origin of the world", since I am a Christian, delete all articles about evolutionary biology and astrophysics, and Biblical criticism, and say, "the first chapter of Genesis says this: this is how it is", and the Bible said Moses wrote it under God's inspiration: therefore it is The Truth (even though a small majority of the world believe the OT to be true in some fashion, whether as Jews and Christians as the inspired Word of God, or as Muslims, a corrupted and superseded revelation). JohnChrysostom (talk) 20:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

"The first Muslim"

In the section "The significance of Abraham"/"For Muslims" says "Islam considers Abraham to be the "First Muslim" (Surah 3)" which is incorrect and cannot be found anywhere in Surah 3. The title "The First Muslim" in Quran is associated with Prophet Muhammad, see (Surah 6, verses 14,163), (Surah 39, verse 12). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.36.40.4 (talk) 11:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Muslims believe all prophets that came before Muhammad were Muslim and their holy scripture was later corrupted;

Mr.sam.oliver (talk) 08:52, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Semitic religion

In the definition statement, it must be stated that Abrahamic religions are "Semitic religions". They originated in Semitic peoples as well as "in" Semitic languages. The official/sacred languages of all Abrahamic religions are Semitic languages.

Abraham and all other prophets who are accepted by Judaism, Christianity or Islam, all are Semitic people too.

Therefore, not mentioning those facts will lead to a void in the meaning--76.31.238.174 (talk) 03:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

• Christianity is an Abrahamic religion, which Scripture is written in Greek, and has many sacred languages, Greek, Latin, Syriac, and vernacular. They all arose in the area we call "the Middle East" today, but in those times the area was much less homogenous, ranging from Alexandria, the height of culture, to the Hijaz, an area ruled by the types of tribes straight out of the Book of Exodus. The article already mentions in the lead the region in which religion first arose. The term "semitic religions" covers a much broader range of (mostly extinct) traditions, those of the peoples of the Levant and surrounding areas in Biblical times. JohnChrysostom (talk) 20:27, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Isma'il statement

I have extensively studied Islam and traveled multiple times to Muslim countries but have never heard the following phrse

"Isma'il, a symbol of which is every mosque"

Mr.sam.oliver (talk) 08:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)