Talk:AirTran Airways

IND-LAS service

I am not sure if this is a new route that begins March 4th or if the route was served seasonally in the past and it will be resumed March 4. I just saw the route being resumed March 4 but not sure if it was seasonal or not. Snoozlepet (talk) 01:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Focus City listing

Need an expert to resolve content dispute....User continues to remove focus cities airports as those have references included. Thanks! Snoozlepet (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

One reference is no longer linked to Airtran website and never included all of the cities tha you ment to source with it and newer sources only call MCO, BWI, and MKE Focus Cities and don't refer to the others as such. This is plain and simple. Stop trying to manufacture facts based on your own opinions for this encyclopedia when you're no more important or entitled than other free editor. Editor800 (talk) 16:40, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

ValuJet 592

This article's "History" section fails to mention the crash of ValuJet Flight #592 that crashed in the Florida Everglades, killing 110 people. With all the information about Mesaba, ValuJet and Airtran's many acquisitions, name changes, etc., it seems odd to me that such a significant event in the company's history would be left out. Since the crash was one of the main reasons the airline changed its name, it is definitely worth mentioning in the article's history. The article is protected right now, but somebody with the authority to do so should make the change. Having a link at the bottom of the page to "related incidents" is definitely not sufficient. 69.23.45.242 (talk) 22:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

• Valujet 592 occurred with ValuJet, not Airtran. Airtran bought Valujet. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

That's not right. According to the article (which appears accurate), ValuJet bought AirTran and kept the AirTran name. But it's still very much the same company. It's misleading--at the very least--to not mention the crash in this article. 98.167.207.78 (talk) 04:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Right. Valujet bought Airtran, and after this article says things like "At the end of 1995, ValuJet was named as the top company in the Georgia 100 as published by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, and the airline posted high margins with a $67 million net profit on revenues of $367 million.", it needs to have some explanation about why the combined company took the AirTran name. Surely the fact that the airline was grounded by the FAA between June 16, 1996 and September 30th is worthy of mention.--Prosfilaes (talk) 15:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

New Routes Chart

Can I add this I have a source now:

New Routes

• Daily non-stop service from Grand Rapids (GRR) to Fort Myers (RSW) begins June 12, 2010
• Daily non-stop service from Grand Rapids (GRR) to Tampa (TPA) begins June 12, 2010
• Daily non-stop service from Milwaukee (MKE) to New Orleans (MSY) begins October 7, 2010
• Daily non-stop service from Milwaukee (MKE) to Sarasota (SRQ) begins November 18, 2010

MY SOURSE: http://www.airtran.com/route-map/new_routes.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by airtran371 (talk) 00:07, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

AirTran officially opens 2nd Hub

Airline just announced opening of offical hub at MKE. Info is available at following links:

http://www.wisn.com/travelgetaways/23071470/detail.html http://www.jsonline.com/business/90004402.html http://www.insideairtran.com/?p=2702

I am horrible at adding citations if someone could take care of this.

Werecowmoo (talk) 11:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Testing Picture

File:Https://www.evansgeneralcontractors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/airtran0001.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Airtran371 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Check for COI from User:Airtran371

Lots of recent edits from this user, most of which is copied straight from the AirTran website and sounds like advertising. I've removed all of these edits for now and tried to make a few things (such as the livery) usable. The awards section needs to be checked also, but I can't do that myself. Werecowmoo (talk) 15:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The article seems to have received a whitewash in recent times. Especially removal of detail about AirTran's early history as ValueJet. Of course, the airline itself wants to distance itself from ValueJet. --Lester 21:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

User readded promotional materials. Reverted back to a previous edition —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.133.206.2 (talk) 12:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Instead of reverting, next time it happens, delete the sections in question. Your revert also took out some of the rework I did to the Cabin section. —C.Fred (talk) 14:03, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it's dreadful and reads like advertising. Not acceptable. --John (talk) 22:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Better now? --John (talk) 01:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Berck, 27 September 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} "On April 6, 2010 AirTran Airways opened its second crew base, at General Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee, the same day they also announced that Milwaukee is officially there second hub."

Should be "their".

Berck (talk) 18:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks! Salvio ^{Let's talk 'bout it!} 19:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Aitran is a part of Southwest

• "AirTran Airways becomes part of the Southwest Family." - Archive

WhisperToMe (talk) 17:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Southwest and AirTran will remain seperate carriers until a single operating certificate is achieved. Snoozlepet (talk) 01:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Headquarters?

Does anyone have a source saying that AirTran moved its corporate headquarters from Orlando to Dallas? They are still 2 seperate carriers and those carriers are still headquartered in their pre-merger cities. If anyone can find a source saying that AirTran has officially moved its headquarters, then add. Snoozlepet (talk) 02:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Baltimore and Orlando (hub or focus city)

The infobox under "hubs" now lists Baltimore and Orlando as hubs now. However, the cited source given (http://www.airtran.com/common/pdf/CrewMember_QA.pdf) states that BWI and MCO are focus cities. Can anyone provide another source saying that Baltimore and Orlando are hubs now. Snoozlepet (talk) 20:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Future former hub

I put following text: : <pre><small>(future former hub)<ref>http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/10/southwest-airlines-atlanta-flights-airtran-hub/551225/1</ref></small></pre> But other editor, JetBlast states incorrect as "Poor English!", so I needs new description for "future former hub (ATL)". Can you help me with new better description? Thanks. --B767-500 (talk) 04:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

you seem to keep coming here and making a mess of things with your bad English. "future former hub" does not make sense. Also if you read the source it says its reducing the flights by 13% and not closing the hub. --JetBlast (talk) 04:55, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I reads my articles correctly. Sources is says hubs is going dismantled. Did you read source? --B767-500 (talk) 05:01, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

It seems best to me to just leave Atlanta listed as a hub and handle its downgrade in traffic in the section of the article about the Southwest merger. If I read it right, Atlanta won't cease to be an AirTran hub; however, when AirTran is fully integrated into the Southwest system, Atlanta will cease to be a hub, as Southwest doesn't run a hub-and-spoke system. —C.Fred (talk) 05:03, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

The latter is correct. Southwest doesn't have hubs, they have focus cities (which basically are hubs, it's more of a marketing thing than anything else). When the Southwest/Airtran merger is complete then we'll have to change the articles around (actually move the Airtran article into past tense and update the Southwest article with Airtran's fleet and "hubs/focus cities"). For now it is correct to describe ATL as an AirTran hub, because it is, and when the merger is complete it will still be listed as an Airtran hub when the entire article goes past tense.

As an aside, it really isn't a good idea to have the whole "JetBlast very dislikes" in the headline. We're here to focus on content not contributors. N419BH 05:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

You have good idea, which I respect it: remove "(JetBlast very dislikes)". Thanks. --B767-500 (talk) 05:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Once the airlines are fully combined and the AirTran name disappears completely, it will no longer be an AirTran hub but a focus city for Southwest. Snoozlepet (talk) 05:32, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

I think about the issues of 'future former hub' and I thinks ATL will be always hub of AirTran, which article will switched to defunct. You can see example:

• • ATA Airlines
  • Pacific Southwest Airlines

Article always grandfatherds hub at closure of airline. --B767-500 (talk) 08:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)