Talk:Allis-Chalmers
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Made some edits myself. Have a few more I'm working on, later. Vegetaman 13:00, 15 August 2006
added some minor edits.
kansas abbrv. is ks, not ka.
np, though. :)
24.124.89.21 02:15, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Tractors are a tiny fraction of the Allis-Chalmers story. With all due respect to the tractor buffs, this is pretty feeble at best.
— I added a bulletin noting the Hydrogen fuel cell tractor Allis-Chalmers made in 1959. I cut and paste it directly from the Wiki on fuel cells. I think it is important that it is mentioned here. All defference to the person above, please add the history you know about Allis Chalmers to the wiki. I came here because I wanted to know more. Used to work in there plant in West Allis, but at that time it was owned by Siemens Bzhayes 01:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC) _ What about the Constrution Machinery Division? Or the fuel cell kits used as a promo for the fuel cell group? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.179.234.242 (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
[edit] "Tractors are a tiny fraction of the Allis-Chalmers story"? "Feeble at best"?
With all due respect to the previous post I would like to say that without Allis Chalmers being involved in the agriculture equipment business then the "Allis Chalmers Story" would probably have ended back in the 1920's or 1930's. It was a big gamble for A-C to get involved in the production of tractors back in 1914. It took a long time for Allis to grow into a major power in the tractor business, but if not for the eventual success of the ag division then it is doubtful that A-C would have survived the Great Depression intact. I'll put it this way....if you ask 100 people who KNOW about Allis Chlamers, why they know about it, then I would bet that at least 80 to 85% of those people would say they know about Allis Chalmers because of the Persian Orange farm equipment that they see around the world still in service today. Sure the industrial equipment was well known.....Sure the power and energy stuff was great......It is true that many of the other things Allis Chalmers did was awesome, but if not for the backbone of the Ag Equipment Division then it is doubtful that the other projects would have had a chance to begin, because it was the sale of millions of farm tractors that kept the company in operation until 1985. -AllCrop90 VA
- I agree that "tiny fraction" was a big exaggeration by that commenter. Not the whole story, true, but certainly at least half of it nonetheless. AC led the way in ag equipment in various respects (e.g., pneumatic tires in 1930s/40s, combine design 1930s through 1960s), and AC's position in the ag equipment industry in the 1930s to 1960s kind of reminds me of Chrysler's position in the automotive industry during the same era: not the biggest player, but possibly the one with the best engineering efforts. But that comment above was made over 4 years ago (in 2006), and keep in mind that Wikipedia even in 2006 was a lot skimpier than it is now. Maybe this article was pretty feeble at the time the comment was made. Even now it'd be cool if it were even better. But it ain't bad for free. And we all know what the answer is when someone bitches about lack of WP content development: "This is done by volunteers. No one's stoppin you from fillin in the gaps yourself, pal." Cheers, — ¾-10 02:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)