Talk:Alstom

Company Nomenclature

The company always writes its name in capitals as ALSTOM but this is just an affectation as it is not a six-letter abbreviation for anything. Andy G 18:12, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Although after what's been said on talk:Naming_conventions Odd capitalization of commercial names we should probably honour this and move the article back to ALSTOM. Bah! Andy G 23:49, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Copy-editors and writers of style guides for newspapers have long experience on this kind of thing. For example, the company that likes to write its name "BAE SYSTEMS" was not successful in instructing newpapers to capitalize it all; "BAE Systems" seems to be what has stuck in the broadsheets. Other new ways to write trademarked names (which seem to me to be entirely derived from whatever the current logo is...) have been more successful: car magazines used to write 'Quattro' (for various Audi cars), but now 'quattro' is quite common. Of course, computer companies are some of the most "innovative" in their orthographic strictures: eBay, CorelDRAW!, etc. Although a computer magazine might bow to Corel's instructions, no broadsheet would, and rightly so. They've sinced changed back to something more normal. Why should a company logo dictate typography of a company name? Hotlorp 13:55, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Is there any explanation as to why the company's name shed an 'h' at some point? Teflon 18:55, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I would assume that it was so that English-speakers would know how to pronounce it. David Arthur 19:09, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

The H originaly comes from the name of another company. Alsthom was created in 1928 from three companies: CGE (Companie Générale d'Electricité), Alsacienne Société and Thomson houston. In 1998, a major change in shares occured, GEC and Alcatel partly left Alsthom which changed its name for Alstom.Tiwan 18:02, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

As a current employee, I can confirm that the group name is not capitalised. This only appears as a logo. 57.67.17.100 (talk) 14:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)DeeDee

Alstom & BART?

Didn't Alst[h]om build some of the original BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) railcars? I seem to remember this from somewhere. +ILike2BeAnonymous 04:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 14:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

University Cafeteria

The University of Lincoln has a cafeteria named the Alstom Atrium. Nobody seems quite sure what the connection is but it uses their logo. Are there any others? 194.80.52.106 (talk) 13:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Here is the reason for the name of Alstom Atrium

“The university has strong links with Alstom Power, who were strong supporters of the project to create a university in Lincoln in the 1990s. Our atrium in the main academic building is named after the company"

Source : http://www.lincoln.ac.uk/news/2002/12/lincolnpostgrad03.htm Netnag (talk) 05:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Corruption Investigations

I was very surprised to see that no mention of the Swiss and French bribery investigations in the article, it reads more like a marketing blurb! Subsequently I have listed the Swiss and French cases in 2007-2008 and the new SFO investigation in order to bring a little balance to the entryTwobells (talk) 11:37, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Changes -added third section, some rewrite, removed list

I added a section of the "transmission" division.

I think the other two sections still need a minor rewrite, and probably expansion, but not lists. The "references" section are a little odd - I think they could be presented in a diffferent way - maybe more as prose.

I also removed the lists below , for now. The problem is lack of context, and references. A List of Alstom products and projects article may be suitable in the long term.

Passenger rail vehicles

• AGV high-speed trains
• Amtrak California passenger cars
• Coradia and Adelante trains
• Juniper trains
• British Rail Mark 4 coaches
• San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) District C (C1) cars (Built in 1980s)
• Citadis trams
• Chicago Chicago Transit Authority 2600 series car rehabilitation
• Federal Rail Express electric locomotives.
• Metropolis Urban trains
• Indian Railways LHB passenger coaches
• Iran Railways AD43C diesel electric locomotives
• Sri Lanka Government Railway 10 M9 locomotives
• State Railway of Thailand 113 AD24C Diesel Electric Locomotives of 2400 HP from 1975 to 1985
• Israel Railways JT42BW and JT42CW locomotives
• Korail EL 8000 locomotive
• Korail KTX (TGV Corée) High-speed passenger cars
• London Underground 1995 and 1996 stock
• New Jersey Transit Rail Comet V passenger cars and PL42AC locomotives
• New York City Subway R68 (cars 2725 through 2924) and R160A cars
• Pendolino trains
• Prima diesel and electric locomotives
• SNCF electric locomotives.
• TGV high-speed trains
• Various metro trains
• X'Trapolis Suburban trains
• X60 Train Suburban trains
• 4th generation S-trains Suburban trains
• NS Class 1600/1800
• NS Class 1700
• Washington Metro 6000 & 2000/3000 (remanufactured) series cars WMATA

Railway signalling equipment

• Control Centers
• Interlocking Equipment
• Signals
• Switch/Point Machines
• Track Circuits

Rail clients

• Angel Trains
• Amtrak
• Amtrak California
• České dráhy
• China Ministry of Railways
• CP
• CPTM
• FGC
• HSBC Rail
• Incofer Costa Rica
• Indian Railways
• Iran Railways
• Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation
• London Underground
• Luas
• Metro de Barcelona
• Metro de Santiago
• Metrovías S.A.
• Metro Warszawskie (Warsaw)
• MARTA (Alstom rehabbed the Franco-Belge CQ310 and Hitachi CQ311 cars)
• Metro Trains Melbourne
• MTA New York
• MTR
• New Jersey Transit
• NS
• Network Rail
• Porterbrook
• RATP
• SBS Transit
• Sao Paulo Metro
• SEPTA
• SNCB/NMBS
• SNCF
• SMRT Corporation
• Sri Lanka Government Railway
• State Railway of Thailand
• SJ
• Storstockholms Lokaltrafik
• Swift Rail Ltd
• TCDD (Alstom is leading CR1 contract of Marmaray Project)
• Société de transport de Montréal
• Taipei Metro
• VIA Rail
• WMATA (Alstom has built the 6000-series cars for WMATA and has rehabbed the Breda 2000 and 3000 series cars)
• Santo Domingo Metro
• Metro de Caracas

Sf5xeplus (talk) 13:14, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Sf5xeplus,

I agree on the creation of a List of Products page. There are also many products in the Grid/Transmission sector worth mentioning.

Martin henry (talk) 23:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Fix this yourself

removed

August 22, 2008 Swiss police carried out a series of house searches at various locations throughout Switzerland, including the offices of the Alstom AG in Baden, the Swiss government said in a statement.[1]

Whoever added this didn't feel the need to actually give us the slightest clue what the police search was about or how it relates to any of the corruption investigations mentioned in the article. I'm not here to wipe other peoples arses. So fix it yourself. It's also a copy-paste straight from the link. Cheers . 83.100.200.4 (talk) 23:29, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

also this

On Wednesday the 24th March 2010 three directors were arrested in a UK corruption probe by the Serious Fraud Office. The arrests followed a raid on Alstom offices in Ashby de la Zouch and Rugby UK. The SFO released a statement stating it believed bribes had been paid in order to win foreign contracts.[2]

copyvio again, and no attempt at explanation - eg what bribes, contract, business area etc. Fail.

the edit difference here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alstom&action=historysubmit&diff=405398192&oldid=405397279 83.100.200.4 (talk) 23:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Synthesis removal

Removal difference [3]

Legal challenges In recent years, Alstom has made many legal challenges after losing bids to provide rolling stock,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/news/single-view/view/alstom-pursues-eurostar-challenge.html|accessdate=2010-12-12|title=Railway Gazette: Alstom pursues Eurostar challenge|date=2010-12-12}}</ref> including: *In December 2010, against [[BKV|Budapesti Közlekedési Részvénytársaság]], which runs public transport in [[Budapest]]; it had cancelled an order for 170 Metropolis vehicles, claiming that brakes did not meet Hungarian standards.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/12/alstom-sues-budapest/|accessdate=2010-12-12|title=ALSTOM SUES BUDAPEST | Railways Africa|date=2010-12-12}}</ref> *In October 2010, against [[Eurostar]]'s decision to buy rolling stock from [[Siemens Mobility|Siemens]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11655460|accessdate=2010-12-12|title=BBC News - Alstom loses Eurostar court case over German train deal|date=2010-12-12}}</ref> *In October 2009, against Bombardier, which won a large tender to supply commuter EMUs in Paris<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.challenges.fr/magazine/strategie/0181.022235/alstom_et_bombardier_croisent_le_fer.html|accessdate=2010-12-12|title=Alstom and Bombardier cross swords - Anna Rousseau - - News Challenges.fr|date=2010-12-12}}</ref> *In August 2010, against [[Trenitalia]]'s decision to order [[V300Zefiro]] trains from Bombardier / AnsaldoBreda.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/news/single-view/view/trenitalia-signs-v300zefiro-high-speed-train-contract.html|accessdate=2010-12-12|title=Railway Gazette: Trenitalia signs V300ZEFIRO high speed train contract|date=2010-12-12}}</ref>

In this case the argument that Alstom has made many legal challenges needs to be shown using reliable sources, rather than a synthesis based on a collection of legal cases. I'm not familiar with company law, so it's not clear that this is notable, unusual, normal or otherwise. Thanks.83.100.200.4 (talk) 23:34, 1 January 2011 (UTC)