Talk:Arrow Cross Party

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[edit] Fascism mischarachterization

Why is it called "Fascist"? The Nyilas were National-Socialists. "Fascist became a broad accusatory term with strong implications of right-wing politics. Hannah Arendt clearly states that Fascism is fundamentally different from Nazism, mainly viz. racial supremacy theories. At least in that regard the Arrow-Cross are far closer to Nazism than Fascism. This is another left-wing wikipropanganda (wikistortion of reality). As an aside, the vast majprity of the Nyilas party later became the high command of Hungarian communism.

Your suggestion is that the use of the term fascist is implying the Arrow Cross were right-wing? I'm not sure how you'd call that a distortion of reality. I'd like to see your source that the majority of the party became the high command of Hungarian communism. - TheMightyQuill 16:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The communist parties and especially the propaganda of the Eastern Bloc avoided the use of the term "national socialism" and used "fascist" even in the case of the Third Reich (which was expressly national socialist). Maybe the socialist governments felt unconvenient to use the term "national socialism" when referring to their enemy (interestingly, the name of the National Socialist German Workers Party borders on the Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party, which is even more obtrusive if we compare the peacetime practises of the two parties). The Arrow Cross Party and its ideology called Hungarism is much more related to national socialism than fascism - if related to the latter at all. Timur lenk (talk) 11:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Fascism#Differences_and_similarities_with_Nazism doesn't seem to support your arguments. First of all, it suggests that national socialism is generally accepted to be a form of fascism. Second, can it clearly be said that Nyilas put race before the state? I'm not sure. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 17:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hungarianism

Why the hell is it called "Hungarianism"? "Hungarianism" would mean "Magyarizmus". "Hungarism" means "Hungarizmus". It isn't the same.

[edit] Ideology

Ideology Far-right, Ultranationalism, Fascism, National socialism, Hungarism, Hungarian Turanism, Agrarianism, Roman Catholicism

How their ideology could be a "fascism" and "national socialism" at the same time while both ideologies are very different? It doesn't make any sense... "Roman Catholicism" - I didn't know that RC is a ideology.

--Krzyzowiec (talk) 04:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with pic

In the Ideology section, the pic covers some of the words that are supposed to be above the pic. I have no idea how to fix it.--Anewpester (talk) 22:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed revisions re. Jewish deaths

I propose to make a few revisions to increase the accuracy of statements about the number of Jews murdered during the Arrow Cross period.Hirschjoshua (talk) 05:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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