Talk:Asturian language

Examples

It seems strange to me that there are no examples of words or phrases of Asturianu on this page.

Some examples I could suggest might be:
Hasta luedín instead of Hasta Luego for "see you later"
Una Pumarada for an apple orchard
figos instead of higos for figs
pachuchu for poorly
but I don't want to add these myself as they are just things I've picked up from my neighbours ( I live in Pola de Siero) and so I don't know if spelling is correct.Chickeninapram (talk) 23:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I think "pachuchu" is a general Spanish term. At least it is also used in Alacant. - Francis Tyers · 10:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I´m asturian and I speak asturian. Some examples are: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.179.126.140 (talk) 10:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Greetings

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Ta llueu -- Hasta Luego -- See you Buenes nueches -- Buenas noches -- Good night Bonos díes -- Buenos días -- Good morning

Months

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Xineru -- Enero -- January Febreru -- Febrero -- February Marzu -- Marzo -- March Abril -- Abril -- April Mayu -- Mayo -- May Xunu -- Junio -- June Xunetu -- Julio -- July Agostu -- Agosto -- August Setiembre -- Septiembre -- September Ochobre -- Octubre -- October Payares -- Noviembre -- November Avientu -- Diciembre -- December

Basic vocabulary

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Home -- Hombre -- Man Muyer -- Mujer -- Woman Guah.e -- Niño -- Child

Alphabet

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It´s the latin alphabet except two especial characters: l.l ( ché vaqueira ) and h. ( hache aspirá ).

See you the spanish or asturian version for more information.

Bye!!

Bable vs Asturian

Bable and Asturian are different names, sometimes thay have been a similar sense, sometimes not, that you can be serching for. In this sense, a 40% of Asturians believe that their are not similar ones, so it could be necessary having different entries. --Auslli (talk) 17:16, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree, this is an Encyclopedia and this names are used in different terms by the asturian people, fact which can be verified in the studys done about this field. So, we have to preserver this entry --Orhere (talk) 07:38, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe that the information from Bable should be merged here then left as a redirect. "Asturian" is the term used by the majority of English sources and "Bable" is stated as its name here. We should stick to what English sources call the language, not what the native sources call it. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 15:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree, and besides, the language, or perhaps languages, however referred to, is "of Asturias" and thereby "Asturian language" is de facto correctChickeninapram (talk) 15:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I think both must keep --KokkaShinto (talk) 17:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

People often used in asturias likely to ridicule the Asturian language. The correct name is Asturian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.179.126.140 (talk) 10:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I'm officially proposing a merger between this article, Asturian language, and Bable because the articles are about the same subject. Even on the Asturian WP, they are the same article – ast:Bable redirects to ast:Asturianu. See the official WP policy on rationale for a merger. These pages seem to qualify. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 15:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

My vote: Bable article should be deleted and left as redirect to this article. Asturian language is both the filological and popular term, and it is also the English name for the language. Instead, bable is an erudite, non-traditional term that was popular during the 1970s and that has often been used as a pejorative slur since the 1980s. As I said, Bable article should be proposed for deletion and all the info about the language should be listed under Asturian language. · Ravenloft · ^talk 13:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, i'm a member of Asturian WP . The article ast:Bable redirects to ast:Asturianu because the correct form is Asturianu. As Raveloft user said, bable is colloquial, and not the common form. It has no sense to continue calling it Bable. For example: the Asturian Language is regulated by Academy of the Asturian Language, (not Academy of the Bable Language) --Astur (talk) 15:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

"Asturianu" is not the official name

After having read the Statute of Autonomy of [the http://www.asturias.es/Asturias/DOCUMENTOS%20EN%20PDF/PDF%20DE%20SITUACIONES/Estatuto.pdf Region Asturias] on the Asturian government's website, I realized that the official name of the language is not Asturian but Bable. Therefore, although I think Asturian is the English term, we should give priority to the official denomination Bable when referring to the local language name. --Eldrewitsch (talk) 14:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

People often used in asturias likely to ridicule the Asturian language. The correct name is Asturian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.179.126.140 (talk) 10:59, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

"Asturianu" IS the official name

Since 1998, Asturian is also an official name. See "Ley del Principado de Asturias 1/98 del 23 de marzo, de Uso y Promoción del Bable/Asturiano" ("Law of the Principality of Asturias 1/98, march 23th, of Use and Promotion of Bable / Asturian") [1]: Article 1: Traditional language. Bable/Asturian, as the traditional language of Asturias, shall be protected. -- · Ravenloft · ^talk 15:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

This law holds rarely by the Spanish government. There is a lot of discrimination towards the Asturian language. This is well explained in the wikipedia in Spanish and Asturian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.179.126.140 (talk) 08:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Eldrewitsch for your contribution, but you are wrong. There are two terms that refer to the Asturian language. One ot them is "Asturian" and the other is bable, but bable is an obsolete expression. Even the Government of the Principality of Asturias in its web official site, http://www.asturias.es does not use the term bable, but Asturianu. So, the article bable would be deleted or redirected to Asturian --Astur (talk) 15:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)