Talk:Bar (establishment)

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Bar vs Pub

"In the UK 'bar' used to mean a wine bar, but now, 'Style Bars', trendy and generally high-quality drinking establishments are more common. However the main type of establishment selling alcohol for consumption on the premises is the public house or pub. Pubs are not usually referred to as bars, though the distinction is becoming blurred."

This doesn't seem entirely right, as i know for a fact that bars withing colleges are always refered to as "bars" even when they are otherwise indistinguishable from a pub. I would guess (although I don't know) that the same is the case with bars within other sors of institutions, such as hotels and resteraunts, with "pub" being a more specific term. Snowboardpunk

That's accurate. A pub is a freestanding establishment while a 'bar' can either be a specific room within a pub, or a drink-selling establishment in something else such as a hotel, a conference centre, a students union etc. etc.Vortinax (talk) 07:47, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Surely a "pub" (public house) is a building in which alcoholic drinks are sold. A "bar" is either a room where alcoholic drinks are consumed (this may or may not be a standalone establishment), or an item of furniture from which such drinks are served. A pub may contain one or more bars. 217.155.20.163 23:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

True and does not contradict the foregoing.Vortinax (talk) 18:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

What's the difference between a "topless bar" and a "titty bar"?

Currently, topless bar redirects to bar (establishment), whereas titty bar redirects to strip club. I'm curious as to the difference. 217.155.20.163 23:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

A strip club features nude dancing, and a price structure for interaction between customer and staff. If the bar is just a topless female bartender and/or waitstaff serving drinks, it becomes more self-explanatory. IMHO MMetro 20:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Alcohol?

This page used to say

A bar is a business that sells alcoholic beverages ….

While this is basically true, it leaves out things like temperance bars and juice bars, making statements like, "A temperance bar is a bar that does not sell alcoholic beverages.", strictly speaking, false.

I have changed this to read

A bar is a business that sells drinks, typically alcoholic beverages, ….

Is there a better way to say this? I can't think of one. Tugbug 20:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I think how you left it is ok. HeffeQue 16:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Video bar

I was hoping this article would expound a bit on the concept of a video bar. They seem to be popular in American gay bars, but more details and context would be helpful. -- Beland 02:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism?

uhm... "Often frequently populated by drunks the most well known of which is Luke menner who is often seen there before operating on the elderly and disabled. Menner, a sophomore at Indiana Wesleyan University, is also known to have many girlish tendencies. Many modern bars have recently added anti-Luke protocol to their company policies." Somehow I doubt that one can be backed up with any evidence. I'm going to go ahead and remove that. [[[User:Mad Gouki|Mad Gouki]] 04:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)]

Pub Task Force

Anyone interesting in working for a while on improving the pub articles? Sorting out the stubs. Organising the categories. Creating a Pub InfoBox. Drawing up some kind of notability guideline, and checking that pub articles are meeting the guidelines. Drawing up a Style guideline. Working on the editing of the main articles - Public house,List of public houses in the United Kingdom, Bar (establishment), etc. Considering how to integrate all the drinking establishments around the globe. Perhaps create a new parent article: Drinking establishment. I've started working on the pub articles, but I would really like to work with other people to bounce ideas and keep within consensus. Check in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Pub_Task_Force, or respond here or drop a message on my talkheader. Cheers! SilkTork *^YES! 18:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

• I was hoping being on the "Pub Task Force" involved going to pubs. )c: - House of Scandal (talk) 18:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Fictional bars

The Fictional bars list was tagged for cleanup per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Beer/Guidelines#Lists and Wikipedia:Embedded list. Embedded lists within articles are discouraged. A list of fictional bars could stretch to several thousand entries, and would be of little value. I have removed it; however, someone may consider if they can make a paragraph of prose about fictional bars, which is also supported by reliable sources and is not original research. SilkTork *^YES! 18:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Etymolgy or origin of the name "bar"

The article mentions that the word "bar" is used as a synecdoche to refer to the "specialized" counter, but what is the origin of the name for said counter? It is something that I was curious about, but perhaps no one knows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miuq (talk • contribs) 18:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't know for sure because I haven't checked any references, but it was probably because it "barred" people from intruding into private space behind the bar.Wahrmund (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

The word "bar" has it origins from the fact that cautious shopkeepers in the United States (Early Settlers) used to barricade their fragile goods against vandalism from brawling alcohol consumers . ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varun m4 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)