Talk:Bar Harbor, Maine

Hey all, I'm the WikiProject Cities assessor of this article. If you would like some advice on how to work this article, go on my talk page and give me a holler! --Starstriker7(^{Say hi}_{or see my works}) 01:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

---

Can anyone explain the difference between the town and the CDP? If I still lived in Bangor, I might remember this, but... :-) --SarekOfVulcan 05:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

This is now explained in the Demographics section. -- Beland 00:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

External Links

Hi! The external links look like they might need tidying up a bit, to me at least, per links to be avoided. There's one to the local Boy Scout's troop, a high school, and a university, yet none of these are mentioned in the article itself and seem only indirectly related (based on geographical location). Maybe a section on 'educational institutions' could be added and then the links would be directly related? Coldmachine^Talk 16:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe that Bar Harbor was named after Bar Island in 1918, because at that time the island was called Rodick's Island. Perhaps for the sand bar that goes across to the island —Preceding unsigned comment added by SpyWeb (talk • contribs) 23:27, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Suggested move

Anyone see a problem with moving this to Bar Harbor, Maine, and let the disambig link at the top take care of routing people to the CDP?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

It's been a couple of days with no objection, so I'll go ahead and do it.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I just refactored the comments here to the template-created section below.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move.

Bar Harbor (town), Maine → Bar Harbor, Maine — Most links to redirect should point here anyway — SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

• Support -- Sorry, I missed this. I agree with you though! Coldmachine^Talk 07:51, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
• Support move. The CDP will be referred to only by eagle-eyed students of the Census. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
• Support the move, and would also support merging the articles, as am not sure why the CDP needs one of its own. Hertz1888 (talk) 22:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
• Support the move as well, as for the merging of the CDP's in with the town, I think there was some discussion somewhere about this (maybe on one of the New Hampshire articles?). I'd support a merge there as well. MrMarkTaylor ^{What's that?/What I Do/Feed My Box} 22:51, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

  Comment -- At least include the boundaries of the CDP somewhere. Merging the CDP article is largely harmless; the update for the 2010 census may recreate it, however. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

See this and this for discussions from Fall '07 from the Vermont project about merging CDP's in with town articles. MrMarkTaylor ^{What's that?/What I Do/Feed My Box} 17:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

• Support The CDP is a secondary entity to the town. The town should occupy the main namespace. I would support merging as well but that decision should probably be left to the Maine WikiProject. Most such cases in New Hampshire have already been merged. I would also point out that there are other Maine towns with the same situation as Bar Harbor, namely Dixfield, East Millinocket, Farmington, Fort Fairfield, Fryeburg, Guilford, Hampden, Hartland, Limestone, Livermore Falls, Madison, Mechanic Falls, Mexico, Milford, Newport, Norridgewock, Oxford, Pittsfield, Rangeley, Rumford, Thomaston, Unity, Van Buren, Waldoboro, Wilton, Winterport, Winthrop, and Wiscasset. --Polaron | Talk 17:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sources and more information

I found some sources for this page, I wanted to put them here before I put them on the page so someone could check them.

• http://www.discover-acadia.com/bar-harbor-fire.html
• http://www.acadianationalpark.com/area_info/history.php

Also I found some cool info to add.

• Accommodations & Camping: 106
• Restaurants: 21
• Outdoor Recreation, Sports & Adventure: 18
• Sightseeing: 18
• Nature: 13
• Shopping: 12
• Culture, History and Museums: 10
• Visitor Information centers: 8
• Arts & Culture: 3
• Agricultural Attractions: 3
• State & National Parks: 2
• Amusement Parks: 1

Source: http://www.visitmaine.com/region/downeast/bar_harbor/

Information I think should be incorporated.

• http://www.barharborhistorical.org/bhhistory.html
• http://www.discover-acadia.com/bar-harbor-history.html

If an admin or higher up could let me know if these changes would be good and not braking any rules that would be grate. J Bluefire (talk) 13:41, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Those sites look alright to add, I think. The Bar Harbor Historical Society is definitely ok. VisitMaine and Discover-Acadia are a bit iffy, since they're commercial sites, but if there's information you can source to them that isn't easily accessible elsewhere, it shouldn't be a problem. AcadiaNationalPark.com, I would object to because the URL makes it sound like that's the official site. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The guidance at WP:NOTTRAVEL, para. 2, would apply. I believe this nixes much of your "cool info" list. Hertz1888 (talk) 17:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)