Talk:BBC Online

BBC Blast

I am new to Wikipedia so don't know what to do but I know that BBC Blast has actually been cut by the BBC last year. I know that the website is still intact however Blast has actually stopped running. Feel free to look this up yourself I just wanted to point it out. Best, Musicmaestro123 (talk) 17:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

h2g2

Is "In February 2001, BBC Online incorporated Douglas Adams' previously independent h2g2 project into its group of web sites." really a worthy comment to appear on the article page - has it been a significant development for many people in their usage of bbc.co.uk? Tompagenet 16:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DNA (the system that powers h2g2) produces a significant proportion of bbc.co.uk - including h2g2, getwriting, ww2, actionnetwork - plus all the message boards. Jasoncart 22:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Early history

The details of the early history given here differ from the account at http://support.bbc.co.uk/support/history.html, which says that www.bbc.co.uk went live in April 2004 and the BBC Networking Club didn't start until June in that year. 132.185.132.12 13:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

beeb.com

Something that needs correcting - beeb.com didn't merge to become BBC Online in 1998. beeb.com actually remained a commercial operation (a shopping guide) until 2002 when it closed . It's probably worthy of its own article, rather than re-direct to Bbc.co.uk. Bods 10:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Advertising

bbc.co.uk is now displaying advertisements for non-UK users; this needs correcting.

MondoCane75 03:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Cult TV

The BBC cult site is being disassembled, please update — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.93.200.136 (talk)

Funding section

I have put a few citation needed tags here :

• I was under the impression that radio stations were blocked outside the UK.
• Whilst I have heard about government grants for the website, I havent seen concrete evidence of this. Is there a citation available for this?
• "It has been suggested in the past that the BBC block users outside the UK" who suggested that? Was it a recommendation of a report, an MP perhaps, a common suggestion from verifable sources? or an opinion of "Joe Bloggs"? Pit-yacker (talk) 23:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Improving article

I'm making several improvements to the article. However I want to declare a possible conflict of interest. I work for the BBC in its online dept and this should be clear when I make any of my edits. I will find references and sources for most edits... Jem 14:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Jem, giving your comments it would be appropriate if you could make yourself aware of the conflict of interest guideline at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Cheers. Catchpole 14:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I've had another look at the guidelines! . Thanks Catchpole. I've therefore decided to see if community wish to evaluate this as a better intro to the current article...

The URL bbc.co.uk is the brand name and home for the BBC's UK online service. Currently the 4th most popular web service in the UK, it is a vast popular website including such high profile sites as BBC News and Sport, the pre-school site Cbeebies, learning services such as Bitesize and the on demand radio player; Listen Again. The BBC has had an online presence supporting its TV and Radio programmes and web only initiatives since 1994 but didn't launch officially as BBC Online until Dec 1997 following government approval. The BBC's plans to direct licence fee revenue into what the BBC DG John Birt described as the "third medium" joining the BBC's existing TV and Radio networks required a change to the BBC Charter. Throughout its short history, the online plans of the BBC have been subject to various public consultations and government reviews illustrating concerns from commercial rivals that its large presence and public funding distorts the UK market. Its current key plan to launch free on demand TV services is awaiting final approval from the BBC's regulator; the BBC Trust.

Also currently under consideration are controversial plans to raise revenue by including advertising on BBC News pages served to non UK users. bbc.co.uk is currently freely available worldwide (via various URLs including BBCNews.com) but planned video services and a lower than expected licence fee settlement paid for by UK residents only has caused the BBC to consider ways of monetising its global popularity online. BBC Worldwide who exploit BBC brands commercially have had several attempts at launching services online including Beeb.com in the late 90s.

thoughts Jem 15:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I wish someone would improve this article. Its partial, incomplete and full of errors. i'm happy to help. I work there and can point to sources. Who would like to start ?. Its a year since i suggested the opening paragraph above but nobody seems to have taken me up on my offer.

thoughts ? Jem (talk) 21:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

This was the largest contribution to the article in a very long time, and I am disappointed that your offer has been ignored. I suppose those that did not like it or did not feel confident to use it thought it inappropriate to say 'no thanks'. I rarely edit articles on the media (I only came here to find the history of Action Network), but I think that any conflict of interest in the above text can be quickly dealt with, and we can make use of your information. My own COI is that I have paid TV licence fees, but I am not afraid to try to edit the page, as long as other editors look over my shoulder, and shout if it goes too far.

Let's get cracking.

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I had a go. I followed your original example and left the last paragraph of the original lead (referring to Alexa) in place, but in hindsight, it doesn't flow together as a whole quite right. I added some of your material to History and Funding, cutting the lead back to brief summaries of those additions.

I will leave it for now, for copyeditors and those who know the media (or have time to research it), to improve and expand the article further.

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Action Network

Google found: http://reportr.net/2008/04/23/bbc-closes-13m-experiment-in-grassroots-online-democracy/

about this: http://web.archive.org/web/20070519041538/www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/

I know this blog is no good as a source, but how accurate are its facts, and how much weight should we give this piece of history in the article?

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

1997 launch date

The article cites the launch date of the BBCNC as April 13, 1994. I have found a quote from the Sunday Times here which puts it back to 11 May, so I'm putting that in the article with citation. If anyone has more info (e.g. was it a soft launch first) do please add info. Cnbrb (talk) 11:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Page numbers

I suspect that page count of 2m is now well out of date since the introduction of /programmes and the new /music section that have vast database based systems with millions of pages each.

Actually, didn't the 2m refer to news.bbc.co.uk rather than bbc.co.uk? Is this English only pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.243.253 (talk) 10:09, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Beeb.com (again)

Just thought I'd re-mention this - please note I work for the BBC hence won't make this edit myself. However this paragraph is factually incorrect as beeb.com was never merged into bbc.co.uk (it was actually shut down):

For a time, www.bbc.co.uk was used for the organisation's corporate and educational site, while entertainment-based content appeared on www.beeb.com. The two sites were merged c.1998 to become BBC Online [5] at www.bbc.co.uk. In 1999, the BBC bought the www.bbc.com domain name for $375,000, previously owned by Boston Business Computing [6], but the price of this purchase was not revealed until 6 years later.[7] As of 2005, www.bbcnc.org.uk no longer exists. The beeb.com address now redirects to the BBC Shop website run by BBC Worldwide, at www.bbcshop.com. beeb.com was a commercial operation run by BBC Worldwide, and entertainment content was included on bbc.co.uk.

My suggested wording would be something like this - possibly with beeb.com as a separate heading?

As well as the licence fee funded www.bbc.co.uk, BBC Worldwide launched the commercially funded beeb.com, featuring mostly entertainment focused content, with sites including Radio Times, Top Gear and Top of the Pops. Later, BBC Online launched licence fee funded web sites for Top of the Pops and Top Gear, resulting in some duplication.

Beeb.com was later refocussed as an online shopping guide , and was closed in 2002. beeb.com now redirects to the BBC Shop website, run by BBC Worldwide.

In 1999, the BBC bought the www.bbc.com domain name for $375,000, previously owned by Boston Business Computing [6], but the price of this purchase was not revealed until 6 years later. As of 2005, www.bbcnc.org.uk no longer exists.

Bods (talk) 13:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

BBC Online International representation image?

I am from the Philippines, but I am aware of the differences between the versions of BBC Online UK and BBC Online International. Do we need to represent BBC Online International to this article? Kiddie Techie Talk 09:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I have proposed that the contents of the article BBC Student Life be merged into this article. The article in question refers to an old but still active service on BBC Online about advice for student life at any level. There is so little content and not much prospect for expansion that in my opinion it is best to merge the small contents into the article under the Children's heading in the Content section as there is already a link there at present. Rafmarham (talk) 22:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Good idea, I support it. Dougweller (talk) 07:21, 30 January 2012 (UTC)