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Bill White is not a Creator. He is a Radical Traditonalist. One follows Ben Klassen -- the other, Julius Evola. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.110.211.165 (talk) 05:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
This silly, silly man (pardon my POV) is described as follows: "Bill White, is the leader of the American National Socialist Workers' Party and the administrator of the far-right, antisemitic website Overthrow.com." In a single sentence he is both "Socialist" and "far-right." This seems mutually exclusive to me. Since he is a self-described Socialist, and since "far-right" is Libertarian and not a variation of National Socialism, Fascism, or any other other political ethos that espouses state control of the means of production, "far-right" should not be used a description.
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- The man is crazy, he describes himself as a "libertarian socialist", what the hell does that mean?!?! He might as well call himself a "totalitarian anarchist" or a "liberal conservative". --RucasHost 08:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
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- There is no contradiction there. Libertarianism is defenitely not on the far right; the far right refers to traditional forms of conservativism (i.e. advocacy of theocracy, absolute monarchy, feudalism, etc) and to ideologies based on national or racial supremacism (and some other things too), which have little in common with libertarianism. Libertarianism is centrist or center-right though some segments of the libertarian movement have adopted elements usually associated with the far right, like fascist-style conspiracy theorizing ("fighting the NWO" and all that), racism, radical nationalism and an idea of national rebirth necessary in order to save the nation from perceived decay, fanatical left-bashing, etc, which makes some people mistakenly see libertarianism as far right, or sometimes it's used by its opponents to demonize libertarianism as such, though it's mostly not. Then, the far right usually (but not always) advocates substantial state control over the economy, like a corporative state. Also keep in mind that Nazism is not socialist by the traditional meaning of the term (i.e. the means of production are under the control of the people), it is actually a form of fascism (racial fascism).
- Libertarian socialism is not crazy or self-contradictory, it is a valid political ideology (not related to the free market libertarianism that is specifically American, hence the confusion I guess), and by the way, so does liberal conservatism. I doubt Bill White actually is a libertarian socialist though, or if he is then he is a really bizarre one.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 (talk • contribs) 01:11, June 10, 2010
- That comment up there is almost three years old. Şłџğģő 13:11, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Inmatefinder as source?
Hardly. And since most people who are sentenced are in custody, seems just a way to get "inmatefinder" in article as a source. It is not WP:RS. Collect (talk) 09:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)