Talk:Birobidzhan
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[edit] Nomenclature
Isn't this also the "official" name of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast? -RomeW 11:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- What are you referring to when you say "this"? If you mean "Birobidzhan", then no, it is not.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 13:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- But unofficial alternative name, yes. :J //Big Adamsky 13:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Having lived in the area for years, I've never heard the whole JAO to be referred to as "Birobidzhan". It is the second time I hear this version on Wikipedia, however. Could you tell me what the origin of this statement is?—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 13:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- But unofficial alternative name, yes. :J //Big Adamsky 13:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I have only oral references, sorry buddy. But you could always do a search... //Big Adamsky 14:01, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I tried last time and found nothing. Perhaps, that's an informal reference used by the English speakers? Or perhaps people were referring to "Birobidzhan area", i.e., area immediately around the city? In any case, this is all speculation which does not merit inclusion in the article.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 14:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I have only oral references, sorry buddy. But you could always do a search... //Big Adamsky 14:01, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Yes, it is informal usage. Used outside Russia, I would guess. //Big Adamsky 15:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I'm in a Jewish history class and my professor used it as the name of the area. Hence why I thought it's the official name.-RomeW 23:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Here in Israel, in history class, the plans for Jewish settlement are known as the Birobidzhan plan and the Krim plan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.68.162.42 (talk) 15:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Lies on two rivers?
That's not true. Only river Bira runs through Birobidzhan. Bidzhan is the river similar to Bira and it flows into the Amur upstream. Bira and Bidzhan are just two largest rivers in Jewish Autonomous Oblast. I'll add this information to the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prokatit (talk • contribs) 13:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] History
It's too bad, there doesn't seem to be a history section in this article? Or, maybe I'm missing it? -Dan Carkner 99.240.219.153 16:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Map does not show wehere Birobidzhan is
The map is of the whole of Russia (and a number of other countries, maybe). It's ver unclear. It certainly not a map of Birobidzhan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.126.59.181 (talk) 13:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is a map of the whole Russia (and certainly just Russia :)), and the dot is where Birobidzhan is located. Unfortunately, no closer map is available, so we have to make do with this one. Alternatively, you can click on the globe icon in the top right corner of the articles (where the coordinates are shown) to see a pop-up map, which you can zoom in or out, or you can click on the coordinates and select one of the mapping services to see a close-up. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Protecting Secular Jews?
The article states:
"According to The New York Times, Stalin established the city to protect secular Jews."
The article says nothing of the kind, and the statement is ludicrous. The article states: "In 1932, during the Great Depression, his family emigrated to Birobidzhan, a Siberian city that Stalin promoted as a secular Jewish homeland." That too is inaccurate, since it was an autonomous region and not a city, but it was not established to "protect secular Jews." [[[User:Mewnews|Mewnews]] (talk) 09:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)]
[edit] spelling
Soviet Yiddish does not spell final letters, e.g. נ is used, not ן . Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 16:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
[edit] HISTORY?
How is there NOTHING about Birobidzhan during World War Two? This is ludicrous! Morris (talk) 00:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, this article could be a really interesting article if more people were working on it. It's quite neglected. I'm afraid you'll probably have to add material yourself. I've been looking through sources recently but I doubt that I'll ever have time to do anything. Still, at least the Stalin's Forgotten Zion: Birobidzhan and the Making of a Soviet Jewish Homeland: An Illustrated History, 1928-1996 external link is there and that's quite a nice site. Sean.hoyland - talk 06:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
[edit] did the name is this town change recently?
in my hammond concise world atlas printed in 2006 it has the name of the town as Birobijan 76.211.5.253 (talk) 14:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- No, "Birobijan" and "Birobidzhan" are simply different "transliterations of the Russian name "Биробиджан" (with the former being rather uncommon). There are also other variants besides these two. Hope this helps,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 17, 2011; 15:08 (UTC)
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