Talk:Book of Wisdom

It might be good for someone who knows about these things to say something comprehensive about New Testament references to this book, and use the passage from Matthew only as an example. —JerryFriedman 00:20, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• I don't think there are any explicit New Testament references to this book at all, but similar language is used. This Matthew passage is the best example of this -- it displays parallel themes and even the same type of language and wording that is found in the Book of Wisdom in order to help the reader make a connection between Jesus and the Suffering Servant figure found in the Old Testament prophecies. The point of mentioning the Matthew passage is to show the influence of the Book of Wisdom. It seems obvious that the author of Matthew had the Book of Wisdom and the Book of Psalms in mind because he employed their language and themes, expecting his Jewish audience to recognize them.Paradiso 06:02, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long. Given what you said above, my problem with the current article is that it says, "For example," there's this correspondence. That implies to me that there are several similar examples. Instead, you say, that passage is the best example. I'm about to make a change, but since my knowledge of this is only superficial, maybe you (or anyone more knowledgeable than I am) will be able to improve on it. —JerryFriedman 22:26, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Influence on the Gospel of Matthew

Re: The section on the Influence on the Gospel of Matthew. I didn't know what to do with this, and was ready to either delete it entirely or tag the whole article as falling below wiki standards. Instead, I took a crack at editing it, though more work may need to be done if it is to remain. If we're going to end this article with that section, something more needs to be said or another section added: the article seems to end abruptly. Sayvandelay 14:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I've taken a stab at reworking this section. It's not perfect, but I think it's an improvement. Timotheos 01:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I removed it, because I've added a section that covers the same ideas but is better sourced. I incorporated about a sentence from this into my edit. Carl.bunderson (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Religious Views

This section needs to be totally redone. It states that Wisdom and Ecclesiastes contradict each other and then gives examples which have no contradictions. Ecclesiastes 4:12 preaches a philosophy of uncertainty, not of despair as in Wisdom 2:1. This section implies that Ecclesiastes does not teach "that trust and fear of God provide the path to redemption," when in fact that is the whole thesis of Ecclesiastes. "The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person" (Ecc. 12:13).

It is also stated that Sirach contradicts Ecclesiastes, again without valid examples. The idea that Ecc. 1:13 and Sirach 3:21-23 are contradictory is full of assumptions which are unnecessary and comical, implying that the seeking which Koheleth urges is "too hard," "above thy strength," and "unnecessary." That's a ridiculous assumption. Someone needs to delete this section and rewrite it. --Malkiyahu (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I've removed it. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 14:54, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Xenophon There's a reference to Xenophon's Memorabilia [2,1:37] which is clearly wrong as chapter 1 of book 2 has only 34 sections. This is annoying. Heracles' conversation with Virtue doesn't begin until section 27. The reference should be to the Memorabilia 2,1:27-34. The resemblance in any case is only slight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.81.77 (talk) 23:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)