Talk:Boysenberry

To do: Verify accuracy. If done, leave a note below :) - Hemanshu 04:35, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Cultivar Sources

According to the article on loganberries, boysenberries are a cross between loganberries and dewberries. Loganberries are already a cross between blackberries and raspberries, so the alternate explanation makes more sense to me. I don't have a source and I'm just speculating on which description is correct but anyone with information should amend this. - Mathan

It's been changed now: A similar hybrid is the Nessberry which is a cross between the dewberry and the red raspberry. But this article still says cross among a blackberry, red raspberry and loganberry. A bit confusing. Boysenberry= blackberry+raspberry+loganberry, Loganberry= blackberry+raspberry PrometheusX303 16:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

After a bit of research, in accordance with Oxford University Press, Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam Webster (online and on paper) and a few others, they all say that a Boysenberry is a cultivar of a raspberry, blackberry, and a loganberry. As soon as I get the time to cite all of these sources I believe an edit is in order. Nihiletnihil (talk) 01:21, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Originator's Name

Boysen's first name is spelled Rudolf and Rudolph in the article. Which is correct? -- Berry Farmer (hobby berry farmer).Mowrerms 16:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

According to Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary (1983, pp. 217) the cited spelling is "Rudolph Boysen". Nihiletnihil (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Wrong Image

The image used for this article long very much like that of a mulberry, and definitely not that of a raspberry/blackberry. These plants are only very distantly related (both Rosales), so it's not exactly an easy mistake to make. 210.215.140.180 (talk) 12:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

We think this is the wrong image also. Someone needs to find a good image of boysenberries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.235.44.17 (talk) 04:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Location of Boysen Farm

Rudolf Boysen lived in Anaheim (in Orange County which is south of Los Angeles) for most of his adult life, yet this article claims that his farm, where he bred the boysenberry, was in northern California. That seems highly unlikely unless Boysen was an absentee farmer or if his farm was only a few miles north of the Kern County line (the traditional boundary between northern and southern California). California, the third largest state in the Union, is about the size of Italy, and travel between north and south was not so easy in the first half of the 20th century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.132.194.127 (talk) 02:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Further research shows that Boysen developed the boysenberry in 1920 on a farm in Napa, California (the famed wine producing valley in northern California), so it appears that Boysen did this half a decade prior to his employment at Walter Knott's farm in Anaheim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.132.194.127 (talk) 02:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Notable Uses of Boysenberries

Innocent Smoothies have just released a smoothie in this flavour - the first usage of this berry that I'd heard of. Should that be added to the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikthestoned (talk • contribs) 09:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I do not think that a use such as this would be notable to the extent it should be included in an encyclopedic entry. Nihiletnihil (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

How odd, I also only came to this page because of the specific mention on the Innocent Smoothies bottle. Are Innocent Smoothies UK-only or are they out in the wider world?
Maybe if there are enough others who arrive here by same means then a "In Popular Culture" page may be required. </XKCD-mode> ;-) Tickerhacker (talk) 14:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's just not that well known in the UK? Here in Australia, boysenberry icecream is in any supermarket. 203.217.150.68 (talk) 06:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Chronology Inconsistency

The article currently states that Darrow only started tracking down the berry in the "late 1930s". It also states that after Darrow and Knott found the berry, Knott nursed it back to health, and got enough plants and berries to start selling it...in 1935. Even if all this happened in the scope of a single year, I wouldn't call 1935 "the late 1930s"...it seems likely that either Darrow may have started looking for the berry earlier, or Knott may have started selling it later.Mark7-2 (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Copyright?

Much of the text on this page is identical to that found at http://www.oregon-berries.com/boysenberry.cfm.

Possibly they've copied from wikipedia, but if so there is no notice on the page.

So at least one party here is violating copyright.--75.90.223.53 (talk) 15:25, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article predates the oregon-berries.com page. The Internet Archive's first record of their page is in August 2008, which is consistent with the copyright notice they have on the bottom of their page. This Wikipedia article was almost identically worded several years earlier (2005) but without any attribution. It's possible that both pages obtained the information from a third source, but the Wikipedia article was not sourced from the oregon-berries.com page. DavidGC (talk) 05:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)