Talk:Bull (mythology)
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[edit] Notion that world is resting on the horn of a bull
I urgently want to be directed to the information regarding this ancient notion and why it was not included here, i am shocked. I remember this from child hood and even in one of versions of SPAWN it is shown in the comic it self. so it is a very famous ancient notion ( like earth as the center of the cosmos) and I want ot know what civilization believed this and other details. I remember it was thought that when the bull shifted earth from one horn to the other the world trembled and earth quakes and such things happened. I am guessing this to be south asian myth but i need to be sure and I want to read it excatly. please help and add that info here. thanks and regards danraz119.155.126.178 (talk) 09:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
I have found two references on the net. one is persian where the shifting of earth on the horns is good thing and it is related to the spring and new year. the other is remote river village of russia called MARI and they think that earth quakes are caused when the bull tries to balance the earth on horn and in this myth there is only onw horn on bull and other one is broken in the floods so bull has to balance the earth on one horn and the bull is on the back of a turtle and it is in an ocean. and if the earth falls in the sea there would be great floods and the earht would drown or something. so I am asking good earth people to point me to the wikipedia article that contains this information and I think it should be added in this article. plus is it just me or wikipedia info is getting changed weirdly. like for example some information i had read earlier about things that i was able to varify is gone and some useless filler info has replaced it???? why? danraz 119.155.126.178 (talk) 09:42, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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Bulll of Heaven: The Bull of Heaven is the constellation we call Taurus. He is controlled by the sky god Anu. The Bull of Heaven appears in the Epic of Gilgamesh. After Gilgamesh upsets the goddess Ishtar, she convinces her father Anu to send the Bull of Heaven to earth to destroy the crops and kill people. However, Gilgamesh and Enkidu kill the Bull of Heaven.
The gods are angry that the Bull of Heaven has been killed. As punishment for killing the bull Enkidu falls ill and dies.
[edit] See also
Anything here to edit into the article? --Wetman 02:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Word Choice
"When the heroes of the new Indo-European culture arrived in the Aegean basin..." It's not clear to me why the word "heroes" was used here. It makes no sense in a historical or anthropological context and, indeed, is somewhat offensive. [funkendub]
- Agreed - shortened to "When the new Indo-European ..." --Damate
- The word makes perfect sense in a mythological context. —Charles P._(Mirv) 19:01, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
- Unbelievable confidence. Where do they get it from, one wonders? --Wetman 20:01, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps moving "in the form of the myths that have survived" to the beginning of the sentence will help - and then expounding on which myths and letting the Minoan context continue in a new paragraph. Otherwise, the myth context reads as an afterthought, while "hero" reads as being culturally biased. Maybe providing the context beforehand will reduce the sense of bias. --Damate
- An article by Anita Stratos, "Divine cults of the sacred bulls" (google it), a popularized summary of Egyptian bull cults, has been silently deleted from the References, because its host site, www.touregypt.net/ is a blacklisted commercial site. --Wetman 05:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Celtic religion and the bull
I've read much about the bull and the Celts worship of it, as well as Celtic legends that have bulls as central parts of the storyline. Why is the section on bulls in the sacred Celtic world so lacking? Only one, two lines about it? That doesn't seem fair. An expert on Celtic religion and/or mythology would be greatly appreciated for increasing the section on sacred Celtic bulls. 24.14.198.8 18:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Chris G.
- I'll do some effort to add some now (without trying to make it perfect, just an entry edit). --Apotetios (talk) 11:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Categorization
I've done some effort to put the article into a structure without removing any of the previous information. My apologies to the original author for seeming initially a bit less coherent to read, but I think now it is an form that can be expanded more easily according to the way wikipedia 'traditionally' works. I see the above comment and I suppose it can now more easily accommodate the 'nationalistic' way some wikipedians tend to view the placeholders for the information they want to include (without getting vandal-ish). --Apotetios (talk) 11:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nandi and Indus Valley Civilization
I have put citation-needed tags on both the claim that Nandi can be traced to the IVC, and that dairy farming was the primary occupation of the IVC. Some bull on a seal does not a Nandi make. Also, I wish to remove the reference to the nativity scene bull. It's seems a trivial and wanton attempt at inclusion. The bull in the nativity scene is not scripturally significant, and is more of a later tradition of seasonal song and theatre. --SohanDsouza (talk) 17:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Bull - in North Caucasus
Caucasian Avars have a farmers' celebrating day in every May mounth of the year. Avarian : "Otsbay" = the bull harnessing day. Symbolic blessing the earth... Another Dagestanian nation the Aguls , have a celebrating day like Otsbay. İnteresting cultural materials , may be researchers will look Dagestan to find descendants of any Hurrian - Urartian. Y chromosome analitics shows Dagestan is relative with middle east. Just a little inf for folks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.232.5.207 (talk) 23:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)