Talk:Cambodia

History section

A number of issues with the History section. "Early History" makes some assertions that are not accurately drawn from the Encyclopedia Brittanica article it cites. Also the "Independence and Cold War" subsection should be retitled to accurately reflect this period in the country's history and avoid a purely European/North American POV. At the very least, the conflict was not a cold one in Cambodia. Someone with specific knowledge of the topic please step in. Jazzcowboy (talk) 17:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I've just begun trying to improve it. I'll try to remain brief enough --Riccardo.fabris (talk) 22:59, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I've added some detail for the 1980's, still a lot to be done, I don't know much about the country after the book i read was published in the early 90's I was particularly surprised to find lack of mention of the Khmer Rouge being in the internationally recognised government. according to the German Wikipedia http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschichte_Kambodschas war with the Khmer Rouge continued until 1998, a year after Pol Pot's death. Democratic elections were held in 1993, the royalist party led by Sihanouk won, probably because it was the only faction without Khmer Rouge influence. If anyone can get some casualty numbers for the period 1980-1998 that would probably be pertinent.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Drunkenduncan (talk • contribs) 01:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I noticed something had changed and went back through the history. An anonymous editor made two changes (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cambodia&diff=430294121&oldid=429773691 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cambodia&diff=next&oldid=430294121) that day and while the second was reverted later, the first was apparently not noticed. The edit deleted references to the support of Thailand, the UK and the US and substituted them with China. It left the original citation however which was a document about US foreign policy and had nothing to do with china. I have reverted the change to how it was with the exception of leaving the reference to China in (my apologies for omitting them in the original edit, it was a foolish oversight). If anyone feels that there is a problem with this paragraph please post a note here as to the reasons for changing it. I also deleted a some of my previous posts from the talk page here about an issue which has been resolved and is no longer relevant. Drunkenduncan (talk) 16:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

This is an incredibly incomplete Wiki entry for a country which has such a rich ancient history and shameful (from the POV of the International community) recent one. Where is mention of the US "Menu" bombings of the 1960's and 1970's (similar strategy in Laos is covered in some detail in it's section). Also, reference MUST be made to John Pilger's documentary, which brought the real horrors of the KR and the International community's hypocrisy in continuing to support the murderous KR regime, in order to 'punish' the Vietnamese and their 'puppet states'. [anon]118.172.63.17 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:54, 6 April 2011 (UTC).

'Betrayal' documentary

Does anybody know when this 'Cambodia the Betrayal' documentary is from? What happened. Did the Khmer Rouge get into power? פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 02:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, I found that it is from 1990. Why was the US and other western countries assisting the Khmer Rouge? Are there any ideas, what the motive was? Is the motive still the same? Is the Khmer Rouge now in power? פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 02:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I hope the former question is a stupid one. According to the Khmer Rouge article, all the "brother" leaders died in 1997 or were arrested in 2007. (What special event caused those two years to be critical...) פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

In answer to the above questions: The western countries supported the Khmer Rouge because they were fighting against Vietnam. 1997 is significant because that is the year Pol Pot died. 2007 I am unsure about but probably had something to do with the start of legal action against a few ex-KR.Drunkenduncan (talk) 08:46, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I've included something on 'Cambodia' being named after 'Kamboja' due to the Khmer dynastic claims of origin (a claim not exclusive to the Khmer kingdom) - the intermediate Western names, and the etymology of other words in the official name ('kingdom of', etc.) are not of primary interest. I assume this is appropriate for the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harsimaja (talk • contribs) 09:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

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What map?

Hi, in the interest of avoiding an edit war I'm bringing a minor spat to this talk page in the hope that a consensus will be found.

On 26 October I added a clickable map (found here) to the Administrative divisions section. In doing so I deleted a map which was more colourful, but fuzzier and unclickable. The one I deleted was created by KnightxxArrow. My edit summary was: (→Administrative divisions: added clickable map (old one was more colourful, but fuzzy and not clickable), sqmi to provincial areas, and reference and year for populations)[1]

On 27 October KnightxxArrow deleted the map, conversions, and references with no explanation.[2]

On 2 November I re-added the clickable map (but not the references... I don't want more than one argument at a time) with the edit summary: (→Administrative divisions: re-instated the clickable map because it's inherently better than an unclickable one. Please WP:AGF; if you upload a larger version of the colourful map I'll make it clickable and we'll use that.)[3]

On 4 November KnightxxArrow reverted it with no explanation.[4]

So instead of reverting a third time, I figured it would be better to just bring the discussion here. Since KnightxxArrow's map was here first, we would of course need consensus to change it to the clickable map.

I know this sounds like a trite issue, but I'm of the opinion that every map on Wikipedia should be clickable (consider the FA on Canada, my guideline; the clickability, in my opinion, adds usability to the page), and have been going through the countries switching many over. I didn't know it would meet with opposition by anyone, but since one fellow Wikipedian prefers unclickable over clickable I've realized there may be others and I should therefore stop what I'm doing.

Note that I gave KnightxxArrow a barnstar on October 22, because I liked his additions to the Phnom Penh article. I'd never had any interactions with him before, and wasn't planning to win his favour or anything; I just enjoy giving out barnstars to those who deserve it. (heh...)

OK so please give your opinion. I guess when the discussion is wrapped up -- in a few weeks or so? -- I'll abide by the consensus and either reinstate or cease my activities in this field.

Cheers​ និង​ សន្តិភាព, PhnomPencil (talk) 11:19, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

I have seen you add clickable maps everywhere, however the default monochromatic style you use isn't that appealing. Can't you simply use png2 for the template? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 12:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'm mostly using whatever map is in place at the time, be it bitmap or scalable. The template is usually set so it will change the look of the page as little as possible, except for extremely detailed maps which should have been larger in the first place IMHO... these are geography articles after all. Could you please point me in the right direction to learn more about svg2? I've Googled it but the technical information is above me. Thanks, PhnomPencil (talk) 13:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Svg makes it really easy to change colours etc., but I can't help with creating new maps (due to inability to do it that well myself). I don't know how you made the original template, but you could just use it for the current map couldn't you? Ala this change, but obviously changing link positions too. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 00:24, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess you're right Chipmunk. I was upset about the obvious Eternal September issue we've got here. On my next round of imagemaps I'll make his colour map clickable. Still, though, wish it were bigger; it's really tough to read for me. Thanks for the advice, PhnomPencil (talk) 07:08, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Removed image and captions

<< File:Legend of King Thao Sithoanh and Nang Manola at Vat That Luang Prabang Laos.jpg|180px|left|thumb|The carved panel depicts the legend of King Thao Sithoan and the Nang Manola, and the kinnari. This legend is of Khmer origin and is very popular. >>

This is of a picture of a mural in Laos. Why was this even added to this article? It is not of Khmer origin. It is irresponsible to add such statement to this article without reference (and I'm sure there are many more that are unchecked throughout Wikipedia). This statement is arrogant and I know many Cambodians fail to recognize that Cambodia is not the origin of this tale due to poor education of their cultupre and nationalism.

Please do not jeopardize the integrity of Wikipedia with unsubstantiated claims. Keep in mind that anything you add in here will influence the dozens of other Wikipedias in other languages. These statements and bad edits will often remain on those other Wikis and that is really unfortunate that happens. Do scrutinize everything you see for the sake of quality and high standard. --173.51.225.113 (talk) 14:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)