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Iran is not a Caucasian nation, the Caucasus ends at the border with Iran.Azerbaijani 21:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I took Iran out, because as far as I know, no part of Iran is in the Caucasus. The border with Iran marks the end of the Caucasus and the beginning of the Iranian plateau (relatively ofcourse).Azerbaijani 21:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Anyone who considers Greece, the Caucasus or anything in that region European, seriously needs to actually live in these places to appreciate their profound ignorance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.81.209 (talk) 14:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Greece not European? What the heck do you mean by that? It was the Greeks who came up with the concept of Europe in the first place! Wardog (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Ethno-Linguistic groups in the Caucasus region- that map is totally wrong. It shows in eastern Turkey language is Kurdish. But in East Turkey there are 3 million Kurdish, and 25 million Turkish. So, what is it? just a biased map... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.228.61.2 (talk) 12:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Image

A more recent map should be used here to show current countries BigEyedFish (talk) 07:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the proposal and think this image is suitable. As caucasus is a geographical region this picture is more suitable for the article that the other images on the wikicommons which are political maps mostly.

Geographical map of Caucasus with national borders shown

-ArazZeynili_talk^contrib_{19:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)}

To the author - since when Abkhazia became southern Russia and is disputed? It's de facto independent, but for the entire world, it's still part of Georgia.

definition not correct

"The Caucasus or Caucasia is a region in Eurasia bordered on the north by Russia, on the southwest by Turkey, on the west by the Black Sea, on the east by the Caspian Sea, and on the south by Iran." I think the defintion is not correct. The region is not bordered with Turkey's and Russia's borders as it is bordered with Black Sea, Caspian and Iran. So a reader may get a meaning that Caucasia ends with border of Russia and Turkey, which is not correct part of these countries are included in Caucasian region. We should rephrase the first definition sentence.-ArazZeynili_talk^contrib_{19:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)}

Image addition?

An image of this particular region would be swell... not just maps. - tbone (talk) 14:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You should remove the biblical references. The human genome project proves where modern man originated from over almost 200,000 years ago. From Adam to Noah there was only a thousand years. Anyone living in the Caucus region would have been far removed from the geneology of Noah by at least 190,000 years. Even the ability of humans to speak and spread oral history is relatively new, and the ability to write is even newer. The Garden of Eden was located at the convergence of three rivers near southern Iraq, which is where the Sumarian civilization first began to write. The migration from there to the Caucasus region would have taken thousands of years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.110.172.227 (talk) 06:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Caucasian

I accidentally posted the following question in South Caucasus' talk page, but meant to have it here:
"Does this article need to address whether or not South Caucasus has any link at all, direct or indirect, to the nationality known as "Caucasian"? (I confess that I have no idea.) Thanks." 98.202.38.225 (talk) 15:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC) There's no such a thing as nationality Caucasian. Maybe you meant race? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mchedela (talk • contribs) 07:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Demographics and ethno-linguistic families

I'm perplexed how the article jumps from the Georgians to the Chechens in terms of largest ethnolinguistic groups. I think you missed the Armenians and the Azeris. I suggest a little research an re-writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.205.53.50 (talk) 01:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

The article says "The largest peoples of the Caucasian language family..." — Armenian and Azeri don't belong to the Caucasian languages. Of course, there's no such thing as "one Caucasian language family", but it's very probable that it refers to people with languages indigenous to the Caucasus region. — N-true (talk) 12:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Although, Armenian is classified as a Indo-European language and Azeri, Turkic, it's still misleading not to discuss them when the page is a discussion of the whole territory of the Caucasus. I quickly found this link for info, but there may be others: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Caucasian-languages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.205.53.50 (talk) 15:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Etymology

Any idea what the etymology of the word Caucasia or Caucasus is? I couldn't find anything in dictionaries. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.83.224 (talk) 05:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi there this part of the article has some syntax issues both in English as well as Persian (where you read kuhkāf in stead of kāfkuh). Wikijamin (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

And what is this malarky? "Etymology The word Caucasus derives from Caucas, the ancestor of the North Caucasians.[2] He was a son of Togarmah, grandson of Biblical Noah's third son Japheth. According to Leonti Mroveli after the fall of the Tower of Babel and the division of humanity into different languages, Togarmah settled with his sons: Kartlos, Haik (Georgian:ჰაოს, Haos), Movakos, Lekos (Lak people), Heros (Kindgom of Hereti), Kavkas, and Egros (Kingdom of Egrisi) between two inaccessible mountains, presumably Mount Ararat and Mount Elbrus." Come on religion based hearsay as an etymology?

---I find the above comment funny. Seriously though, the statement of the name descended from a folkloric person should not be presented as a cold hard fact unless there is other evidence to support it. I am surprised this got by. Few English speaking people probably read about the Caucasus. I read a little Russian, but not much. It looks like the Etymology section of the Russian wiki page mentions Herodotus. 74.101.163.144 (talk) 22:11, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Etymonline says: "Caucasus: mountain range between Europe and the Middle East, from Gk. kaukhasis, said by Pliny ("Natural History," book six, chap. XVII) to be from a Scythian word similar to kroy-khasis, lit. "(the mountain) ice-shining, white with snow." But possibly from a Pelasgian root *kau- meaning "mountain."[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.190.226 (talk) 19:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

between Europe, Asia, and the Middle East

It surely isn't between these places. It must surely be in one, some or all of them. Also, the middle east is in Asia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 11:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Ethnic Groups In Caucasus Region 2009.jpg

first politologia should explain this edit.--Bouron (talk) 08:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

And please explain this edit. --Kober^Talk 08:16, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Why I should explain it. File:Caucasus-ethnic en.svg was put to the article earlier. compare there dates.

Lets not to start edit war. we have talk page to discuss new edits what is politologias edit.--Bouron (talk) 08:53, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Politologia's edit does not contradict any of Wikipedia's policies, while your's does. You have reverted him/her several times without any explanation given on talk.--Kober^Talk 08:58, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I reverted her one time. see history.--Bouron (talk) 09:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I was waiting for explanations for politologia's map is better CIA's map. --Bouron (talk) 17:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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