Talk:Chatham Main Line

Line / Route - Conflict with Kent Coast Line article

I don't understand why there are two separate articles on what is essentially one service of trains. This "Line" (which is not an official title is it?) is part of the SET service from London which divides at Faversham - one section carrying on down the coast to Ramsgate - what is called in the OTHER article the Kent Coast Line; and the other section calling at the stations in this article. Indeed the SET timetable shows just that situation. I have commented elsewhere on the fact that the other long-distance train service, - that through Tonbridge and Ashford - has no article at all. This one has two!

Surely what is needed is that this and Kent Coast articles are merged into one with the title being the latter; and a separate new article, which I am now raising, entitled London - Ashford- Dover Line. Peter Shearan 14:16, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I have amended the wording here. Since Strood is not mentioned as one of the stations on the line it would complicate things; and according to the SET timetables trains for Ramsgate do not start from Charing Cross, only Cannon Street and Blackfriars. Peter Shearan 14:55, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't think Kent Coast Line would be a good name to describe the London-Chatham-Ramsgate/Dover route, since this could be confused with the Folkestone-Dover-Ramsgate route which also runs by the coast. Perhaps London to Dover via Chatham Line would be a better title? Our Phellap 15:56, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

This article id defiantly mis-titled. The trains leave London (primarily Victoria) and divide at Faversham into Dover Priory and Ramsgate trains. Thus the Kent Coast Line and this (Chatham Main Line) defiantly need merging. Pickle 14:05, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

See my big peice on SET talk page --Pickle 21:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

In light of the above i have begun a big overhaul - comment, revisions, etc welcome. As you can see I've extended the start to cover the route to Victoria and included the Catford Loop option. At the other end I've stated it as "Chatham Main Line - Ramsgate Branch" and "Chatham Main Line - Dover Branch". Where this leaves the Kent Coast Line article is an issue i haven't got my head round yet.Pickle 02:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Name

Upon reading "The Future of Rail in Kent" by Kent CC and Medway UA ([1]). It deatials the lines passing through medway as the "The Mid-Kent Line" and "North Kent Line". At somepoint this article may have to be renamed? The atricle also mentions an "East Kent Line", and seams to reffer to "Ashford to Margate via Canturbury" and "Ashford to Margate via Folkestone and Dover". Pickle 13:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

This is a very late reply, but it may help. The North Kent Line diagram is absolutely correct except that it has too much on either end. In reality it goes from St Johns to Strood, but the map shows London terminals to St Johns, and Strood to Gillingham.

However the Mid Kent line is nowhere near that lot. Nowadays it runs from Ladywell as far as Elmers End (formerly it continued to Addiscombe).

As always, Quail map#5 tells all. Ivor the driver (talk) 09:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Map

The "closed curve" shown on the map at Canterbury is the wrong way round. Trains coming from London could use the curve to go to Canterbury West and Ramsgate, but not towards Ashford as the map current ly indicates. Four Ceps 23:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I have amended the map to show the correct sense of the closed curve.Four Ceps 19:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Cheers mate ;) I made this routemap some time ago, and the coding has improved and i need to sit down and redo this to exploit the new code ;) Pickle 19:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

St Pancras

No matter where trains now start to get to this line, is the modern connection to St Pancras really part of the Chatham Main Line?--SilasW (talk) 12:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely not. This is a common mistake on Wiki where someone is confusing a service with a line. The Chatham Main Line has absolutely nothing to do with Bedford or St Pancras which are on the Midland Main Line and Moorgate Line respectively. The map is (currently) showing the route correctly. The text is wrong.-- Fu Manchuchu (talk) 04:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)