Talk:Chiron
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[edit] Comments
Chiron appears in Goethes Faust as well, where he showns Faust the route to Helena
- You should tell us researchers at least where its located: that makes us feel very bad: (anonymous)
- As you wish: done! --Wetman 06:08, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Please, provide pronunciation help for words that are foreign or new to many..
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Saltlakejohn (talk • contribs) 16:51, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- "Chiron is the alias of the founder and copyright holder of "Chiron's Forex Trading Strategy""
- Is there a reference for this statement? --Gar2chan 02:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
"He had the gift of guiding his pupils to uncovering their highest potential..." Uh-oh. This doesn't have the authentic ring of mythological thinking. In fact it bears the distinct stamp of career counselling in an American high school. Some text that echoed or at least directly reflected Greek and Roman sources would make a start towards improvement. Ruck and Staples? J.E. Harrison? Anyone? --Wetman 09:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Telamon has been added to the list of Chiron's pupils by an anonymous editor. Can anyone provide the text that links Chiron and Telamon? --Wetman 08:20, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
The Centaur of Delta Lambda Phi has no name; he is based upon Chiron, but it not Chiron. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22warrior (talk • contribs) 02:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2060_Chiron -rudyard (talk) 06:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Unsourced essay
I have moved the following unsourced personal essay here: there seems no need to counter it point by point--Wetman (talk) 00:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC):
- A likely prototype of the figure of Chiron was the mythic hero Enkidu who appears in both the Sumerian and Akkadian versions of the Gilgamesh Epic as a a mentor of the hero Gilgamesh (see A. George, The Babylonian Gilgamesh Epic p. 143). Enkidu, like Chiron, was a mixed being, part man and part bull. He can be identified on the basis of a representation on a gold beaker from the site of modern Hasanlu in western Iran with the constellation of Centaurus, His role as a figure in the realm of the dead fits well with the location of Centaurus in the extreme southern sky from a Mesopotamian perspective.
[edit] Insignificant Trivia
Wikipedia is a tertiary source. This means that Wikipedia is a catalogue of secondary sources and is not a venue for original search. This means that - in principle - everything included in Wikipedia should be tied to a secondary source and sourced. Everything without a source is subject to deletion without cause. No factoid is innocent until proven guilty. If it doesn't have a source it should be gone. This allows us the luxury of having less stuff with more confidence it is right rather than more stuff where we have no idea what is right or what is wrong. Some things may be allowed to remain unsourced as a courtesy. On top of this, the requirement of the existence of a secondary source ensures significance. If no writer of any secondary source out there has bothered to mention a factoid, it is probably insignificant and not worthy of inclusion. The more insignificant nonsense that gets included, the harder a reader has to work to get significant information out of an article.
In fact, you will notice that truth is not a sufficient condition for inclusion. It is truth as evidence by a secondary source. Typically truth not evidenced by a secondary source is original research, and thus does not merit inclusion. It may be true that in some book the character Joe Bob was nicknamed "Grendel", and you know this is true because you read the book, but this is original research since you are not using a secondary source.Ekwos (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Dates needed for photographs
The photographs of amphorae need a date for the object depicted in order to give it a proper time period. If the editor who included the photographs could help with this, then it would be much appreciated. Thanks 78.146.132.102 Classics (talk) 08:28, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Unsourced legends
The articles says "In other legends, it was Proteus who helped Peleus". Which legends are those?