Talk:Cullinan Diamond

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Does anyone know what grade of colour was able to be extracted from the Cullinan? thefamouseccles 04:53 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The Golden Jubilee

...found in 1985 is larger than the cullian I. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:59, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

The cut golden jubilee is larger, but the original rough stone was much smaller 131.111.41.167 10:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

According to "Van" Van Horn (the author of the daily e-mail sent from qotd.org), "The Cullinan Diamond was sent to Asscher Brothers of Amsterdam for cutting, where it was studied for months before the first cut was attempted. On that first cut, the blade shattered. A second attempt split the rock exactly as planned, and Asscher fainted from the stress. The two largest pieces cut are part of the British Crown Jewels and can be seen in the Tower of London." A fascinating anecdote, IMO. <>< tbc 07:22, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Value should be added as it does have a worth, I would give them £5 for it because I could get more than £5 if sold legally. So aproximate value is worth giving. 200 Million as of 2006

Appraised Value?

"200 Million as of 2006." May we ask who did this valuation as of 2006? That is in pounds sterling on the article page. This is VERY important unsourced reference to value. At this point it lacks credibility doesn't it? T.E. Goodwin 09:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, and also should mention the value may be fairly subjective even if done recently, since I doubt comparable pieces are sold at auction regularly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.60.19 (talk) 05:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Some other articles

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No longer the biggest in the world.

A new diamond found in South Africa has been found.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/29/wdiamond129.xml

219.89.103.84 19:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

And here's another link for that -- Miners unearth world's biggest diamond —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mskadu (talk • contribs) 15:34, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it a bit premature to be changing this? From what I'd read at the BBC website there's still some doubt as to whether it's authentic, and the stone is apparently in a bank vault awaiting testing (on Tuesday, apparently). Further, the new stone is apparently green, and the largest green diamond until this point has been the Dresden Green, at roughly 41 carats, so a 6,000-carat green diamond beggars belief. The Cullinan is well verified; the new stone isn't, so I think it would be better to leave this article alone until the new stone is verified. Thefamouseccles 03:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ack - meanwhile, even the man who is responsible for the hype around this alleged "diamond" has become somewhat more modest. He now claims that he had never claimed it would be a diamond [[2]] ;-) Please revert the changes until there is some reliable verification 141.2.22.211 13:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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Historical accuracy

I'm not sure if there is a Wikipedia policy to cover this but the opening statement of this article "The Cullinan Diamond, found by Frederick Wells, surface manager of the Premier Diamond Mining Company in Cullinan, Gauteng, South Africa, on 26 January 1905," is historically incorrect. On that date neither Gauteng nor South Africa existed. The date falls in the period between the Second Boer War and the founding of the Union of South Africa during which the Transvaal was a country under British military occupation. I'm not sure when the Zuid Afrikaanse Republiek was formally abolished. The Act of Union which established South Africa as a country came into force 5 years later on 31 May 1910 and the name Gauteng was given to the redefined province only 100 years later in December 1994. This reminds me of the Soviet era Russian joke of an old man being interviewed by a state official: "Where were you born?". "In Saint Petersburg". "Where do you live?" "In Leningrad, but I hope to die in Saint Petersburg" Roger (talk) 07:37, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

also not sure if there is a policy, but I dispute that it is inaccurate. The place described exists at present , you could go there and say 'This is the place the 'Cullinan Diamond' was found.' It was found there, just because the name did not exist at discovery does not mean it is not valid to use it now. Consider the discovery of nylon that article say's first produced on 28 February 1935 by Wallace Carothers at DuPont. , nylon was not called nylon at that time but aquired the name during the marketing proccess, yet the quote can still be regarded as accurate. Just a different point of view. GameKeeper (talk) 09:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Ownership

The diamond is not actually owned by Queen Elizabeth. It is owned by the British State.

There is an important distinction to be made between property which is owned by Queen Elizabeth as her private property (such at the Balmoral Estate) and property which is owned by 'The Crown' which is a corporaion sole representing the Executive Arm of the British Government.

See Wikipedia article The Crown for details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.1.21.12 (talk) 05:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

size ?

can anyone add the approx size of the rough diamond. the weight is good to know, but since the densities of matter come into play, one can only guess as to its size. thx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa (talk • contribs) 21:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Black spot, flaws, etc.?

I'd like more detail on this. Were they inclusions? Any detail about what the official color/clarity would be from a gemologist's viewpoint? --Magmagirl (talk) 16:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Portrait of King Edward VII

I've removed the image of King Edward VII. The portrait, which doesn't even feature the diamond, is not only irrelevant but potentially confusing. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 03:44, 25 May 2011 (UTC) My name is Bernard Chisande and I am a man of God, whilst praying in the mountains of Congo three years ago, I discovered the biggest diamond in the world which I named Pfudza after my grandfather. It is 579carats and nothing like I seen before. Its been buried in my homestead for exactly 39months now and now i want to share it with the rest of the world. My email is benncapo@yahoo.com and phone is 0027787627354 or 00263735133833. If you can help fix our beautiful country then you can have it. I have no desire to personally benefit from any of the proceeds from the sale its a big church i wish to build for Prophet Andrew Wutawunashe of Fmaily of God church as he was my father and mentor when i was growing up. I Pray for world peace and for the love of God to be shared among the fellow citizens of this world. God bless you all — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.122.140.82 (talk) 12:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)