Talk:Days of our Lives

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[edit] The Other Days Of Our Lives Prime-time Specials and Storylines

Hello, I believe that all the linked dool pages are very informative and they help explain alot of the history and what is going on ...but I see that "The Cruise Of Deception" storyline has it's own page telling great details into that storyline..but it also seems like you have forgotten other memorable times go go into great details and layout for us...like for instances..." One StormyNight" "Night Sins" or " Winter Heat" and i think a special page or two should be set up for the running back to back storylines of " The Salem Stalker" and "Melaswen / New Salem " -- DOOL HISTORIAN (talk) 02:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is this notable??

I read on on the article on wiping that this show, Days of Our Lives, is one of only 3 or so 1960's soap operas which survive mostly intact in the archives. Retro Agnostic (talk) 07:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Caps

Why the heck is "Our" not capitalized on the page? Don't we have a whole guideline on capitalization of titles? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 19:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Uh, check out the logo, it's not capitalized ... — TAnthonyTalk 22:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Irregular or unusual caps, punctuation etc. defer to the series themselves rather than WP guidelines, as in thirtysomething and headLand.— TAnthonyTalk 02:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, those two I can understand since they're from the department of "let's ignore capital letters entirely". But this one just seems weird. Apparently whoever made the title card forgot that prepositions are still capitalized. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 18:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

In this article it states that after Jeff Zuker remarked in January 2007 that Days probably wouldn't be on past 2009, and that the following time after that article was published that Days ratings dropped to 1.9 million viewers. This is totally not true. The 1.9 figure is the household rating, not the total number of households. Days has always averaged well above 2,000,000 households. The 1.9 rating is the percent of total households that watched the program not the total amount of viewers/households. This is misleading to the reader. If this was true then Days really would have made a comeback since 2007, since it is averaging just under 3.0 million viewers this season. I will correct this if it is not corrected soon. Please get your facts straight if you are going to contribute to Wikipedia. The show has already received enough negative publicity lately and it keeps on going up with huge increases in viewers despite individuals who either make false statements or give false information in regards to it's popularity. I also cannot find anywhere an average household rating of 1.9 for Days during the time period in question. For the 06-07 season Days had a 2.2 household rating average. This is according to the Wikipedia article about soap opera ratings history. I think that 1.9 might be more the author's perception and not based on any facts. It cannot be validated within the time frame mentioned in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telxon04 (talkcontribs) 06:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, it has been stated by NBC officials of Days of our Lives that the "O" in "our" is not capitalized intentionally because it represents all of our lives and not just the lives of the show's characters. Days of our Lives is intended to represent the lives of everyone on the program and for anyone watching the program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telxon04 (talkcontribs) 05:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] dool

dool is big —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.234.72 (talk) 03:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Supercouples

When the article on Days of Our Lives discusses the emergence of the phenomenon of supercouples, it omits Roman and Marlena. Since they were the original supercouple and received huge publicity in soap opera magazines in the 1980's for that reason, it seems like a major omission not to include them here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lincolnstreet747 (talkcontribs) 00:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nomination and reassessment

See Talk:Days of our Lives/GA1 for the nomination, and Talk:Days of our Lives/GA2 for the reassessment. Geometry guy 11:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Senior cast members

I edited the senior cast members to make it smaller because half the main cast was on them including Lauren Koslow who has only been there since 1996. Only about the top 5 or 10 like susan seafoth hayes, bill hayes, and suzanne rogers who have been there since the early 70's and then peter rekell, james renoyalds, and kristian alfonso who have been there since the early 80's also i put josh taylor in since he has been wiht teh show since 1977 so dont change it please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.5.105 (talk) 16:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Peggy McKay first appeared on Days of our Lives as Caroline Brady in 1983. She has been on the show continuously since 1985 as a contract cast member. You failed to list her as a senior cast member. Alison Sweeney has also been on the program since January 6, 1993, and should be listed as a senior cast member for her 18 years of continuous service as a contract cast member. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telxon04 (talkcontribs) 05:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Cancellation?

There have been multiple updates to the page about cancellation that look rather shady. I can't find anything on it, but wanted to confirm before clearing it out. Johnny51981 (talk) 05:48, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

This information regarding cancellation was false. Days of our Lives was just renewed on November 8, 2010 for another 2 years, which would make it remain on the air through September 2013. There was also a one year renewal option which would make it run through 2014.

Whoever it was that contributed this false information regarding Days of our Lives being cancelled by NBC provided 100% false information to Wikipedia and should be removed as a contributor on those grounds. They even listed a false "last airing date" which has been proven to be a complete fabrication of the truth. They failed to provide any validation to this information and it proved to be untrue. Persons who contribute totally false information should not be permitted to contribute anything to this website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telxon04 (talkcontribs) 04:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Best remembered stories

I was surprised while reading the section on "Best remembered stories" that there was no mentioning of the buried alive storyline in 1992 when Vivian went wacko because of herbs, framed Carly Manning for patient deaths at University hospital, and then faked Carly's death and then buried her alive in a cemetery making everybody in Salem think that she was dead. This storyline was HUGE and I remember it was a big ratings winner for DOOL back in 1992.

Also, what about the storyline in 1996 when Kristin Blake miscarried and lost John's baby, then faked the pregnancy by passing Susan Bank's baby as if it was her own, all just to keep John for herself and away from Marlena? Susan had to impersonate Kristin. Of course, Vivian and Ivan were Kristin's accomplices in crime the entire time. And then when Marlena found out, Kristin locked Marlena in the secret room in the DiMera mansion only to find out that she too would eventually be locked in the secret room while witnessing Susan attempt to marry the man that both Kristian and Marlena loved--- John. And then finally it all backfired as Kristians lies and schemes were exposed, Susan and Edmund moved to England with baby E.J., and Kristin allegedly committed suicide, drowned, and died in a pool of blood even though it was really Susan's sister, Penelope. As it turned out, Kristin has been held captive and in jail all of this time while all those in Salem think she died.

Or how about the big storyline in 1983 when Stefano pushed Roman Brady (Wayne Northrup) off the cliff and making him look presumably dead? And then in 1986 when Roman (Drake Hogestyn) came back from the dead, everybody was then fooled again when the man Marlena thought he was, Roman, turned out to be John Black? And then as it unfolded, the "real" Roman (Wayne Northrup) eventually came back to town in the early 1990s to reclaim his old life with Marlena and the kids only to find out that Marlena had unresolved feelings for John (Drake Hogestyn) , an affair ensued which produced a love child, Belle Black.

Surely, these BIG storylines are worth mentioning.Yoganate79 (talk) 08:05, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Sammie & EJ I think they should be togother they fit the. Sammie trying to be good and can't the same with EJ. It makes the show great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.63.152 (talk) 04:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] ratings: record low

May 5, 2011: 2,039,000 viewers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.22.56 (talk) 03:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure). Jenks24 (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2011 (UTC)



Days of our LivesDays of Our Lives – Reopened, see below. Jafeluv (talk) 12:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Per WP:ARTICLETITLE and WP:MOSTITLE, we use standard capitalization rules and do not slavishly follow the formatting seen within the programs themselves. Powers T 23:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. Jafeluv (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm a bit concerned about this move. I tried to undo it but I'm having insane issues with my Internet connection today and made a mess of it. I'd like you to undo it yourself if possible. Editors don't get to substitute their capitalization preferences for what a proper title actually goes by. According to the shows official pages at NBC and Sony the correct title is Days of our Lives without the "o" in "our" capitalized. Please see is 5 and k.d. lang for other examples where we don't use standard capitalization. AniMate 20:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
This was a good faith move, but restored the original title, per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:LOWERCASE, or WP:ON; or at least because it could warrant more discussion. —Ost (talk) 21:41, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I totally agree with Ost316 here. We may not "slavishly follow the formatting seen within the programs themselves" but neither are we as editors allowed to dictate what we think the titles should be. For better or worse the name of the show is "Days of our Lives" and the o in our is not capitalized. Clearly this is a controversial move and should have been discussed. Please do ot move it again. AniMate 22:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I've reopened the discussion (which I think you should have done instead of re-reverting the page move, but the result is pretty much the same). As I said on my talk page, in my view the move was in accordance with WP:CAPS, but I'll leave it to others to decide that. This will be reclosed by another uninvolved user in seven days or so. I'll notify LtPowers that the discussion has been reopened. Jafeluv (talk) 12:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
I did not see the discussion on your talk page and the original guidelines cited did not make the rationale clear. WP:CAPS—and its link to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)#Composition titles—clarify that title case should likely be used. However, I note that this page was stable at the lowercase "our" location for a while and that the guideline does say "generally", with plenty of pages using non-standard naming. —Ost (talk) 21:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

It's vital that we remember that this proposal changes merely the orthography of the title, not the actual title of the program. Our Article Titles conventions allow us to use proper title case where appropriate, per our usual conventions. This is clearly a case such as that. The decision to capitalize "our" or not is purely stylistic, not a question of fact. Powers T 13:26, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we should be substituting our stylistic preferences in regards to creative works. Despite our stylistic conventions, the correct capitalization is "Days of our Lives". We could change the capitalization of works by E. E. Cummings like is 5 and anyone lived in a pretty how town to conform to our guidelines, but anyone familiar with his works would definitely revert such changes. I think in regards to creative works we should stick with the title the creator used, and in this case the "o" in our isn't capitalized. This is clear not only from the title sequence but also on the shows official pages at NBC and Sony. AniMate 01:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
e. e. cummings is a unique example because his poetry depended heavily on stylized capitalization for meaning. This, on the other hand, is just a stylistic choice, and WP:MOSTM makes clear that we don't generally hew to whatever fancy styles a brand may use just for the sake of matching. Powers T 13:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I suggest we leave it with "our" uncapitalized in this case. It may not be in accordance with our style rules, but on this point our rules are fairly arbitrary (it doesn't make things any clearer to readers, and isn't any more "correct", to do it one way rather than the other), so we may as well follow the sources, and apply the rule only when the sources show significant disagreement.--Kotniski (talk) 12:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] B&W and Color

Question... was Days ever filmed in Black and White, or was it Color from Day 1?

Blozier2006 (talk) 04:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Updating rating information

This section doesn't have any imformations about the ratings since the 2010-2011 season. We need to keep this section update. If I have the time, I'll try to find myself some informations about the ratings from reliable sources. Farine (talk) 19:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Thursday's Show

I have been watching this show every since it first aired. I have always enjoyed it. When it first started it was a good clean show. I am Very disappointed in yesterdays show with Will and the other boy kissing!!! Our children are seeing enough of this as is . I am almost 65 years old and it is very offensive to me and certainly not scriputral.Why can you not keep Days as it was, why does it have to change with the part of the world that thinks this is ok? If it happens again I am finished with Days Of Our Lives. I know that this doesn't matter to you but, this is my feelings!

                                                           Thanks, Brenda  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.247.23 (talk) 15:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC) 
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