Talk:Donkey punch

a "made-up" sexual move?

I like how people have been quoted as saying it's "made up" and only exists "in the mind of adolescent boys."

Technically speaking, aren't all sex moves made up? I mean, what they're probably referring to is that no one did it before until after people started talking about it. Either way, it can still be considered just as legitimate as anal sex. Vicious203 23:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Only if an occurrence of it is documented. People have been known to have anal sex, but there haven't been any reports of donkey punches. --Maxamegalon2000 00:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

But what of Gia Paloma? It says in this article that she has been on the receiving end of one on film. That seems like evidence enough. Vicious203 01:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The thing with Gia Paloma is probably not a real donkey punch. It's probably staged to look like one but I doubt professional porn producers would actually allow real violence to occur.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 06:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Isn't that like arguing that article on the Cleveland Indians should say that they made the playoffs in 1989? --Maxamegalon2000 05:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Well while that was a rather humorous response Maxamegalon2000, the act did take place as far as I know. Has anyone actually viewed the scene in question and can vouch that it was real? Or was it simply pretend? Vicious203 14:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it was made up and pretend enough for her to complain about receiving the punch afterwards. Certainly seemes to have been an extreme pornographic video from a studio that makes extreme pornography. Also see: http://i.somethingawful.com//sasbi/2006/06/elpintogrande/test3.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.77.17 (talk) 01:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Right lets put this to bed. I have Guttermouths 30, i've watch the scene with Gia in it. There is absolutley no violent content what-so-ever. No punching, slapping chinese burns or nipple cripples. Nothing, Nada. I'll post screen shots when I can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.136.39 (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The above comment about Guttermouths 30 not having a donkey punch is correct. I am thoroughly disappointed in this page's misinformation about Guttermouths 30. I had purchased the movie expecting Gia Paloma to be donkey punched, only to find that it doesn't happen. There is an extremely violent porn series called Donkey Punch that involves donkey punching, though I suspect it does very little to enhance anal sex, rather it just hurts the recipient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmaweapon74 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, either the "apocryphal" should be removed, or the Alex Divine bit should be removed or edited. If no actual "donkey punch" takes place in the film, it isn't clear why this would be referenced. The way it is written now, the "how physical the scene would be" suggests there was an actual "donkey punch" - making the apocryphal bit confusing.

In any case, describing a concept as "apocryphal" seems inapt. Accounts of what transpired may be apocryphal, but concepts - or activity concepts - are only implicitly apocryphal. That said, it does seem amusing to suggest that the idea of a "donkey punch" is useful but not divinely inspired...

19:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.100.58 (talk)

Article change

Donkey punch films do exist, as this something awful review can demonstrate.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/horrors-of-porn/donkey-punch.php http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=Donkey+Punch/year=2005/Donkey-Punch.htm

I will use the link from iafd as a citation that it has become a real 'theme' in porn movies?

Does this qualify it as being removed from the sexual urban legends? Verdafolio 14:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The Donkey Punch is still an urban legend. The Donkey Punch is supposed to make the recipient tighten their hole, thus making sex more pleasurable for the dealer of the punch. The Donkey Punch movies shows girls getting punched in the back of their heads, but does not prove that it makes the sex more pleasurable. On the contrary, a punch to the back of the head would only knock a girl unconscious, put her into a coma, or kill her, making her hole very loose and having the exact opposite of the intended effect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmaweapon74 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Even if these are reputable sources, and I'm not sure, my point above about events in film not actually being true still seems to apply. --Maxamegalon2000 17:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Someone needs to fix this article. It clearly states that Gia Paloma is the first recipient of the donkey punch on a professional porn movie in Guttermouths 30. THIS STATEMENT IS COMPLETELY A LIE. Gia is never struck, nor is there any violence at all in Guttermouths 30. This false information has been cut and pasted from this wikipedia site to numerous sites across the internet, spreading the lie. SOMEONE MUST FIX THIS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmaweapon74 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How can this POSSIBLY be an 'urban legend'..? It's like that article that got removed about Gerbiling, of course it exists, I've seen both Gerbiling and the Donkey Punch in videos, and isn't it quite obvious that if a person is hit, unexpectedly, by suprise, they will tighten their ass..? TigerTails (talk) 21:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Proper definition?

http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/donkey-punch/

This link gives a different definition to the term. --24.57.221.117 (talk) 01:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

There is no "proper" definiton of the term. However, popular consenus has deemed the donkey punch to be a punch delivered to the back the head of the person you are having intercourse with, and that is the only definiton I have ever heard of. One person's opinion is dubious, however you might get away with adding this as an alternative definition. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

"Medical and legal risks"

I find the reference to male anal rape in prisons in theis section quite offensive. Prison rape, despite what the mainstream media would like people to believe, is not funny, and shouldn't be used to make a somewhat meretricious point about rape as a deterrent. People are sent to prison for punishment, not to be raped for punishment. ▫ Urbane Legend ^chinwag 00:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Technically people are being sent to prison to rehabilitate, not for punishment; if it was for punishment alone there are other more effective ways. 94.69.178.230 (talk) 22:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Timing is (allegedly) very important.

I think it should be stated near the beginning of the article that, when used, the donkey punch is almost exclusively executed during or just before the orgasm of the penetrating partner. I may be mistaken and I haven't found any sources to cite.Veecort (talk) 13:26, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I found a source kinda sorta from Fox news. It is not very good but I am sure there are more out there.Veecort (talk) 13:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I added it to the end of the first paragraph. Also, I first learned about donkey punching from reading the Dan Savage article and he may have stated therein that it is executed just before orgasm. The first time I ever saw anything like it though was the scene in Oz, but I thought Cutler was just being an asshole. As soon as I read the article I understood that what I had seen years before was in fact a form of donkey punch.Veecort (talk) 14:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Wait a minute... you're discussing the timing of a sexual technique that isn't even real? Guys.... focus, please. --J-Star (talk) 17:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

If we start ignoring omissions in this article then what is next? What will we let go next? Just let important facts be omitted from any article? This is serious business. Veecort (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Kidney punch and not a rabbit punch at all?

Maybe, just maybe, correctly defined, a donkey punch is to the kidney area, or not; I don't know. Because I trust Dan Savage I will believe that it is a rabbit punch and not a kidney punch. But that leaves me wondering about the definition in the link above and also the scene from Oz. The definition from the link above is supposedly from a magazine called Popbitch. I believe it goes without saying that this is serious business and we need to clarify this kidney versus rabbit thing sooner rather than later. I am all over it but I am not an authority on the matter.Veecort (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Joke

Is this a joke page? It has references to Urban Dictionary for crying out loud. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poposhka (talk • contribs) 02:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

There is only one reference to Urban Dictionary. Personally, I do not think that particular paragraph deserves to be in the article, nor do I believe that the reference is very valid. I do not even know for sure if there is anywhere on the body that you can punch someone to make anally penetrating them more enjoyable. To answer your question Poposhka, No, this article is not a joke. This is serious business. Veecort (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

AKE??? WTF? Are you kidding me???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.23.49 (talk) 08:47, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture

Just want to say that the picture with this article is HILARIOUS!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.24.93 (talk) 02:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

• Same here. It made me laugh for a good 10 minutes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.190.60.1 (talk) 19:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

As this act is probably apocryphal and possibly lethal, I would suggest the current picture is uncessary and inappropriate and should therefore be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.59.80 (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

And I would suggest that ur a fag who has a stick up the butt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.120.91.220 (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I completely agree. Not only is it unnecessary, it's absurd and not in keeping with the tone of the article. 24.118.53.177 (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

The picture is perfect. It illustrates the topic well. The Wikipedia Foundation recently heralded the used of media, there is a precedent for such images, and a policy WP:NOTCENSORED. The image dis not overly graphic which limits its shock factor. Although this is not necessary, this is something editors often ask for. I assume the reader would prefer this animated drawing over a video of it actually being done. It is a shocking topic and we should not pretend otherwise. There are options to disable such images if you prefer not to see them.Cptnono (talk) 19:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

What does it add to the article? This is not like one of the anatomy photos that may actually help someone get an idea as to what's being described. In this case, where it's clearly not playing some useful role in illustrating the topic, and where it really runs afoul of good taste, there's not a reason to have a picture, even though it's just a drawing. "Wikipedia is not censored therefore we should keep this picture" is nothing even resembling a rationale. Excalibre (talk) 03:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Yep, it should be removed for the reasons already stated by others. It's not appropriate for the tone of an encyclopedia, online or otherwise. Violence against women and sexual acts are not illustrated in real encyclopedias.

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December 2011 campaign/kudus/complaints

The picture is blatantly sexist and offensive. The fact that it seems amusing and benign to some participants of this discussion gives even more cause for concern. That it seems to portray violence towards women in a way that can be perceived as lighthearted and funny, encourages violence against women by normalizing it. Furthermore, the heteronormative view of sex excludes homosexual relationships and people. The fact that Wikipedia is founded on open source philosophy gives even more reason to remove the picture: in this portrayal of sex, LGBTQA people are excluded, women are victimized, and the Wikipedia space ceases to be democratic, instead becoming a male-dominated and hetero-dominated domain. The picture is violent and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.110.98.8 (talk) 22:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Bravo!

This site looks more and more like encylopediadramatica every day! How long do you suppose it will be before Wikipedia has an offended page and an article on goatse? Oh wait you already have one of the two http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse also kudos for the picture it really made me smile — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.90.65.235 (talk) 04:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I have put the comments in chronological order. I assume no editor would ever intentionally slight you for your opinion. However, a coordinated attempt to adjust a Wikipedia article is something that established editors will not appreciate. The image is thought provoking. I am sure we can use plenty of other descriptive phrases for it. But its use not meant to me funny. It is not meant to be lewd. It is meant to illustrate a topic that is already "inappropriate". Your input is appreciated and the image is not guaranteed. But please do not assume that it will be removed by throwing a comment or two up every few months from accounts that do not have a record of following the standards on Wikipedia. Keep the snickering to a minimum and appreciate the value of illustrating something that is worthy of notice. Appreciate that an actual photo is not being used. I can get a release on a couple who would love to be shown on Wikipedia in the throws of passion but I ask them to not make an already racy topic that much worse. Your feedback is great but there is a healthy balance right now and continued edit warring and campaigns by certain people to remove the image will not benefit the project. Keep in mind that no one looking up this subject is so innocent that they do not understand sex. Even more importantly, be happy that actual bodies are not being masturbated to while getting viruses. This is meant to be a record of the sum of human knowledge. Human knowledge consists of plenty of sex.07:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh wow she played the feminist card. Sorry your "degree" in women's studies didn't do anything other than make you better at whining on the internet about stuff that offends you, but a .gif of exactly what this article is about is most certainly not indicative of whatever oppressed view of the world you have. Grow up. 99.35.224.37 (talk) 05:49, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you really do a great job of illustrating the grown-up mentality of the people who what this unpleasant and useless image kept here. Excalibre (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you really need to stop with the personal attacks.Cptnono (talk) 04:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

anal/vaginal tensing conflict

the lead says the goal is to create anal tensing, but earlier says that it's "allegedly" used during both anal or vaginal penetration. Does that mean that the vagina also tenses when someone hypothetically does this? Rodaen (talk) 13:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Pop culture

How was the Jeopardy contestant's answer incorrect? Technically, this term DOES describe a blow to the back of the neck, and it IS named for an animal.

It's not like the guy said "Falcon Punch." Oh, wait-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2012 (UTC)