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I heard that the Eastland sank because it had too many lifeboats. It had too many lifeboats because of a reactionary measure after the sinking of the Titanic. Is this true or an urban legend? - Masmith
- Partly true. The Eastland was carrying more lifeboats because of laws passed after the Titanic sank. The lifeboats were positioned in such a way that they caused the boat to be overbalanced, which contributed to its sinking.Shsilver 16:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Also they overpacked the ship with passengers.
[edit] River vs. Lake
Clearly the sinking was in the Chicago River, so I added this to "Category:Shipwrecks in rivers", but it's also widely considered a Great Lakes disaster, so it seems appropriate to leave both even if the sinking was not actually within Lake Michigan. --Dhartung | Talk 06:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why did so many die?
If it was right next to shore why did so many die? My guess is a lot of people couldn't swim back then. Anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.206.165.20 (talk) 04:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
- I heard that there was live music below the deck so people were ther listening to the music and when the boat capsized they drowned because water went under the deck and the people could not get above the deck. I also think furniture smashed and killed people and the boat had too many people so the extra people that wern't supposed to be on the boat died.
People wore more underclothes back then as well, especially the women. The clothes got water logged and made people sink. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.33.234 (talk) 17:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I think the entry as it exists at this moment (08 Oct 10) explains that many people were trapped inside the ship when it rolled over and they drowned when water entered and filled the now-submerged compartments, and that others were killed by heavy objects that slid accross the compartments as the ship was rolling over. However, the comment about the amount of clothing people wore 100 years ago is also relevant insofar as yards and yards of wet cloth in the long skirts of the time would have made it difficult for women to move quickly towards safety or stay afloat in partially flooded comparments or exitways. (71.22.47.232 (talk) 21:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC))
[edit] Aftermath
- Nearly 20 years after the Eastland sank-a Judge only allowed survivors the amount of damages from the estimated value of the ships worth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.53.145.195 (talk) 12:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
edited out the copyright warning on the page because it makes the page completely unreadable. apparently whoever posted the copyright warning did not format it correctly and it thus compromised the usefulness and readability of the article. please correctly format the copyright warning before reposting or undoing my edit. thank you. 151.201.240.141 (talk) 23:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- This edit has been reverted and the copyright tag restored. The tag appears to be correctly formatted (please correct or point out any error you see), I agree that it makes the article look horrible but I don't see an alternative under Wikipedia policy, other than just deleting the section entirely. The only reason I didn't do that is because I wanted to give an opportunity for someone to make an argument in defense of its copyright status, though the linked source asserts copyright. If someone wants to try to rewrite the Mutiny section in their own words that would also be great, it just seems hard with nothing to go on but the bare facts from the linked source. Alereon (talk) 11:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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- Thank you very much for finding this problem and making sure that it is properly evaluated. :) Fortunately, it seems that Wikipedia is in the clear in this instance; the content was here prior to its publication there (see box above for details). --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:20, 17 February 2011 (UTC)