Talk:Faggot (food)

Merge recommendation

Brain's faggots is not a distinct enough topic of its own to warrant a separate article. Recommend merge into this article. Also citation needed to indicate that Brain's is indeed the best known brand. Bwithh 19:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

go ahead and merge.--I'll bring the food 01:34, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge. Having a separate article for Mr. Brain is like having a separate article for Birdseye frozen peas as well as peas.

Agree on the merge. Sockatume 18:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there any evidence as to the regions stated?

I suspect they were & are fairly national, but people think of them as local. The earliest recorded use is in London (1851) Johnbod 21:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm originally from Yorkshire and had never heard of faggots until I moved to Cardiff, Wales, in 1968. Faggots were a hugely popular item at the students' union cafe due to their filling nature and cheapness! They were, as the article states, very similar to the "Savoury Ducks" we would occasionally eat in Yorkshire and on Tyneside. However I do remember "faggot stew" as being the main food eaten by the "low life" family portrayed in the 60's show by the comedian Arthur Haynes (the family who drank tea out of "jam" jars!). As this show reflected working class Londoners, this would indicate that faggots were known in the South East of England as the idea of using lowly faggots as the base for an even cheaper dish was obviously expected to raise a laugh. --MichaelGG 02:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm from Lincolnshire and they were common up here when i was a kid - late 70's/early 80's - my family are from yorkshire and they seemed to think they were quite popular there

Also, most of the ones i have seen were more cylindrical than round Auto98uk (talk) 09:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I take issue with the suggestion that faggots are typical of the Midlands only. First of, I never came across them when I lived there (which might just be a personal omission), but secondly faggots are widely seen as typical for Wales (Welsh faggots). See List of cultural icons of Wales and Welsh cuisine for instance.

So either the article should add references to Wales or just drop the Midlands-reference altogether.

Sowhaddayall think? Thanks, Maikel (talk) 09:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

almôndegas don't have anything to do with faggots, it is made of meat, not liver and heart — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.244.137.218 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 6 December 2010

I grew up in the West Midlands and NEVER heard faggots referred to as ducks, so that bit needs editing! 51kwad (talk) 08:31, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Recipe

Added recipe for Dad's Faggots but unsure if it is traditional. Any ideas?

jptdrake 05:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

"fennel seed, ricotta cheese, grated Romano cheese" er, nope. Not by a long chalk. It's even served in pastry. - X201 11:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

"African-American Country"

The article seems to indicate that faggots are a popular dish in "the African-American Country", which perhaps unsurprisingly has no accompanying article. Presumeably this is a (whilst amusing, silly) reference to the 'Black Country', a region in England, but someone with more knowledge than I should probably change this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.12.227.28 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 4 April 2008

Who knows, maybe it refers to Liberia 24.205.64.27 (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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"Wrapped in kel"?

What's this kel supposed to be? Thanks, Maikel (talk) 13:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Kel = kell = caul = caul fat. Maikel (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

"Kel" is NOT found in any online dictionary. It is NOT found if "googled". It is NOT an ENGLISH word in WIKTIONARY (it is Czech, Danish, Hungarian, Kurdish, Slovak and Turkish).
"Kel" should be (preferably) defined in the article or linked to another page or eliminated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N0w8st8s (talk • contribs) 00:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

So sad.

That this article has been locked. I knew it would happen one day. --Frank Fontaine (talk) 19:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[User:MichaelGG|MichaelGG]] I know what you mean....its considered by many Welsh people to be the National dish of Wales...being in Cardiff you must have treied it in the market at " Roaches " although most people thing the best Welsh faggots and peas are sold in Pontypridd market...I always take my freinds there when I come home from denmark for a visit !— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.166.146.155 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 4 November 2009

Challenge

I have to challenge this article.
I admit that the smallest book in the world is probably the "Welsh Cook Book", but having said that, if it existed, faggots would be in it. The Welsh name is 'ffagod'. To leave references to Wales from this piece and then lock it is nothing short of racisim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob.williams (talk • contribs) 17:34, 26 January 2010

Racisim?? Really??Flappychappy (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction in text

Faggots are usually homemade and are to be found in traditional butchers' shops and market stalls.

I buy them from the shops in six packs called Mr Brains Faggots, I've never made them at home (ingredients are a bit hard to come by), have purchased commercial products from the butchers and market stalls... it unusual are they 'hand' made, sometimes they are square and not 'bundled', so not really faggots of meat, but still called faggots none the less.

Outside Britain?

Are these meatballs ever served outside Britain? If so, are they referred to by different names (to avoid confusion with the antigay slur, which is the only common meaning of the term in, for example, the US)? Stonemason89 (talk) 22:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering that too, that photo looks amazing & I'd love to find that dish here in the US as well! Hanz ofbyotch (talk) 22:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

This is a common combination in the Black Country area of the West Midlands, especially so since the 18th century industrialisation onwards, but also for hundreds of years prior.

This is a good example of the confusing langauge and lack of clarity which all too often inhabits Wikipedia.

"This is a common combination in the Black Country area of the West Midlands, especially so since the 18th century industrialisation onwards, but also for hundreds of years prior."

Somebody who is not a native English speaker will have trouble with this wordiness.

Was the faggot a "common combination" from "the 18th Century industrialisation onwards"?

Or was it "for hundreds of years prior"?

It could be both. If so, say so. Just give a date range.