Talk:Fricative consonant

Peter Ladefoged uses the raising diacritic with French ar, [ʁ̝], in SOWL. kwami 20:35, 2005 August 21 (UTC)

IPA

Are readers honestly expected to recognize IPA symbols? Would some example words help in a table such as this page has? --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 21:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that the great majority of these sounds simply don't exist in English, or for that matter in any language that the typical English speaker knows much about. I'll see what I can do, though. —Ruakh_TALK 20:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Coronal or apical ?

I don't understand why the letter "s" is listed both as "coronal" and "apical" sibilant -- especially when both of these link to the same article: voiceless alveolar fricative; and the same sound sample. Apparently, they are one and the same. Yes, no ? 76.113.105.186 (talk) 04:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Quite distinct, take a look at coronal consonant and apical consonant. /s/ can be apical but may also be laminal (etc.) (some languages even contrast an apical and a laminal one), but it is, by definition, coronal (alveolar is a subset of coronal). As for the articles, the apical and laminal etc. varieties just don't have their separate articles. As for the list, it does look rather confusing. It would be good to have appropriate sound files to illustrate the IPA notation. --JorisvS (talk) 14:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)