Talk:Géza, Grand Prince of the Hungarians
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And NOW, user:H.J., we can deal with the fact that this entry has very, very little to do with Geza. It's all about his child and grandchildren. That's not very useful. I have a reference book here that refers to Geza as 'grand prince of the Magyars', so I'm changing it to that. I'm cutting all the descendents other than Stephen. For Stephen's children people will have to click on Stephen. that's all I can find out about Geza from what I've got in my office, but it has the advantage of being about Geza. --MichaelTinkler
Baptism date for Geza and Stephen from Catholic encyclopedia. Stephen's baptism is unconnected to accession. Any better sources out there? I'm not comfortable with his title. I'm sure it wasn't 'King', though. --MichaelTinkler --- To MT I was going to look for some info on Geza, since I did not have any. Arpad is correct. Thanks for helping. I realized the Henry II of Saxony entry also and was ready to change it. Hungary specifically celebrated St Adalbert of Prague baptizm in 997 with a postage stamp.
I read Geza king of Hungary, but he might have become king or received the title at the same time his son did. eza of Hungary is fine with me. I added all the info , which can be transferred later, but at least it helps with identifying the people. I got on this Geza thing by reading the Transylvania page. user:H.J.
Combining with Geza /Talk user:H.J., what I did was move the information from 'Geza, king of Hungary' to 'Geza of Hungary'. What you have done just now is put more info into an entry called 'Geza.' Please move this information to Geza of Hungary.
MT, ok I just saw that , will move it user:H.J. --- I might be mistaken but I believe that there were several kings of Hungary named Geza, and what you have as Geza of Hungary should be Geza, Prince of Hunfgary. Pingos
Geza of Hungary , is the same as prince of Hungary. MichaelTinkler started him under this name, because we are trying to get some uniform input in wikipedia. That is not easy with all the different names some of the people are known by. Geza by itself will be conbined with Geza of Hungary. user:H.J.
Well Géza was fejedelem, which my dictionary translates as "prince", "lord", "monarch". I'd prefer "monarch" since I believe princes are descendants of kings, and Hungary had no king until Stephen I. I haven't checked the article deeply (I should cross-check it with Hungarian resources if time permitted), I'd do someday. --grin 21:52, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] moved from the article space
The reading and pronunciation of the latin name „dux Geza” is disputed by some hungarian historians (Gubbubu 10:33, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)). Alternative version is Gyécsa.Gubbubu 10:33, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) The correct translation of "fejedelem" conf. Magay-Orszagh Magyar Angol Keziszotar is reigning prince. The Hungarians at the time of Geza (that is before the first king) had no king, no monarch. The role of fejedelem was close the Turkish Vezir (chief, chieftain). G.G. Ref: History lesson with Dr Szentmartony Kalman
[edit] Article name
The article was previously at "Géza of Hungary" and many redirects still go there to the old name. When I noticed this I tried to move it back to the old title to get the redirects back but it didn't work. Hobartimus (talk) 11:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article can't be at Géza of Hungary because he was one of many men known as Géza of Hungary. You know that, don't you? Anyway, you did not correct a "unilateral move". You simply changed "Magyars" to "Hungarians". The former was used in the article when I moved it. Surtsicna (talk) 11:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes I mixed up that a little bit. I tried to move back to Géza of Hungary but couldn't. The change of Magyars->Hungarians occured because it was dissimilar to the title Grand Prince of the Hungarians the parent article. Anyway maybe you misunderstand this time I wanted to move it back to 'Géza of Hungary' only because of the redirects. At least one redirect was broken somehow but I suspect many more could be. Hobartimus (talk) 12:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Otto's diet
According to Imperial Diet (Holy Roman Empire) there was a diet in Quedlinburg on 972, not 973. Which one is correct? --Oop (talk) 16:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
