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[edit] Automate archiving?

Does anyone object to me setting up automatic archiving for this page using MiszaBot? Unless otherwise agreed, I would set it to archive threads that have been inactive for 30 days.--Oneiros (talk) 18:27, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

YesY Done--Oneiros (talk) 18:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Please add

I can't figure out how to edit this page, but please add the AAG (Association of American Geographers) under the heading Geographical institutions and societies. THX —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpost85 (talkcontribs) 00:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Misuse of sources

A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of Jagged 85 (talk · contribs). Jagged 85 is one of the main contributors to Wikipedia (over 67,000 edits, he's ranked 198 in the number of edits), and practically all of his edits have to do with Islamic science, technology and philosophy. This editor has persistently misused sources here over several years. This editor's contributions are always well provided with citations, but examination of these sources often reveals either a blatant misrepresentation of those sources or a selective interpretation, going beyond any reasonable interpretation of the authors' intent. I searched the page history, and found 3 edits by Jagged 85 in July 2008 and one more edit in April 2010. Tobby72 (talk) 20:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up.
I've had a look at those edits. Apart from a potential bias resulting from the distribution of volume of content (The Islamic part of the history section is 3-10 times as long as any other), there's nothing particularly dubious about either the references nor their use (though I don't know about the reliability of the IslamiCity.com website).
The Medieval Ismalic section in the main article: History_of_geography#Medieval_Islamic_world is tagged as unbalanced, but no discussion as to why.
To be honest, this page, and to an extent the main history of geog. article are in dire need of a bit of attention and TLC. Over-zealous but largely accurate editing is the least of worries.--Cooper-42 (talk) 12:04, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Decline of geography in the U.S. academia

Shouldn't this article say something about the ongoing decline of geography as a discipline within U.S. academia? Yes, the U.S. is not the whole world, but as far as contribution to global academic output, it is a giant; surely what happens in the U.S. academia has broader impact.

There is an interesting-looking article in the Japanese Journal of American Studies, “Another Closing Frontier?: Observations on Geography in American Academe,” with statements such as

a recent president of the Association of American Geographers (AAG) has noted “the possibility of having the discipline die a natural death,” mainly because of disciplinary inertia.

And a bit later:

The perception of crisis extends more significantly into the quality and constitution of the discipline, almost exclusively in academic contexts. These run through a spectrum of problems that include disharmony between the physical and human subdivisions, esoteric specialization, disdain for teaching, inappropriate training, practical irrelevance, and even bad attitudes.

The following seems like a useful reference on the topic: Geography: discipline, profession, and subject since 1870.

For a flavor of how the profession seems to feel about its state, it is informative to read “Citation for Harm J. de Blij, Ph.D. 2006 Recipient of the George J. Miller Award for Distinguished Service to Geographic Education”. It begins as follows:

Being a geographer in the United States during the past several decades has inevitably meant taking on a cause. That cause is a product of the systematic marginalization of the discipline in K-12 education, the closing of geography departments at some of the nation's leading universities, and the neglect of the discipline at many of America's liberal arts colleges-and even some of its prominent public universities. The social implications of these educational failings serve as the principal rallying points for the cause: an American population largely ignorant of the nature and significance of differences from place to place.

Someone closer to geography than I am might use the references above as a starting point to write something about this topic. Reuqr (talk) 05:14, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] External Links impossible to add/bring back

So I noticed that this page has no external links. I tried to add resources like Geography@About.com but the bot keeps deleting it. There are a wide range of Wikipedia appropriate news sites, educational resources, and even blogs that could be featured here yet we can't add them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catholicgauze (talkcontribs) 15:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a directory or collection of links. Please read WP:EL. About.com is basically a content aggregator and has many pages which are mirrors of Wikipedia. Links to blogs are discouraged unless they are the authoritative blog written by the subject of an article. The National Geographic site is probably ok, although the landing page is a huge promotion of the site's sponsors. --Versageek 15:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Geography Institutions

Please add links to the two following institutions (I am on the Executive of both) to assist readers of your geography article to find additional information.

Geographical Society of New South Wales (GSNSW) http://www.gsnsw.org.au/

Institute of Australian Geographers (IAG) https://www.iag.org.au/home/

Thank you in anticipation for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.45.89 (talk) 06:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Related

can this be related to visual geography ? Aylish (talk) 10:17, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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