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A fact from Gertie the Dinosaur appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 30 June 2006. The text of the entry was as follows: "Did you know

...that Winsor McCay's animated film Gertie the Dinosaur was originally created for a vaudeville act where McCay would seem to interact with the cartoon dinosaur?"

++Lar: t/c 17:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apple/pumpkin

The intertitled version of Gertie has the dinosaur catch a pumpkin. This is also what Leonard Maltin claims the Vaudeville version was like in his book Of Mice and Magic. The wiki article lists the fruit as an apple. Now, the fruit itself (onscreen version) is not very detailed and could be anything, so there would be nothing stopping McCay from throwing Gertie whatever he had handy at the individual acts. But since this is the first time I've heard anything other than the fruit being a pumpkin, I'm wondering if somebody got the facts wrong. Anybody got some light to shed?Pjalne 19:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Canemaker is the source for most of the details in the article, beyond the synopsis. Page 176 says:

Sizewise, an orange pumpkin would have been the proper choice ...; but McCay chose a smaller object easily hidden within his coat. Since red "reads" clearly to a theater audience, the prop became an apple. McCay's granddaughter Janet remembered visiting McCay backstage and seeing the red cardboard "apple" in his dressing room.

You're right in that the difference between the vaudeville and later film version probably should be mentioned. I'll add that. --Davepape 01:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Nice work, dude. Davepape 1 - Leonard Maltin 0. Pjalne 14:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cartoons that were or were not first

"Gertie" is credited as the first ever film cartoon. Trekphiler 21:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

That is widely believed but untrue. McCay had made several cartoons before this one, including one starring the characters from Little Nemo in Slumberland.Uucp 18:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Since this film is in the public domain, is it available for download anywhere? Thanks -- 136.159.71.113 19:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Here [1]

That may be good to add to the article if it is not already. ++Lar: t/c 17:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Minor note to be aware of: The Gertie animation is now in the public domain, but the associated original musical score is not. The composer lead a surprisingly long life. 77.96.228.232 (talk) 22:08, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Walt Disney

I have read (but do not recall where) that Winsor McKay's son met Walt Disney several years after his father died. The son was awed to meet Walt. However, Walt told him that "everything I have done I owe to your father". And this is one of the reasons that Gertie is in the Disney Hollywood Studios in Florida.

Also, I have seen some original Gertie drawing in the (now closed) Museum of Animation Art in Washington, DC.

Cheshire Figment (talk) 02:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Gertie the Dinosaur

[edit] Apple/pumpkin

[edit] cartoons that were or were not first

[edit] Walt Disney

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