Talk:Gibbet

I have removed the reference to the Carthusian Martyrs on the grounds that (a) the original Wiki article cites no source (b) if sustainable it is not an example of a the use of a gibbet but an example of an unusual example of execution or death in prison. The original article is not explicit as to whether the deaths from starvation were intended or the consequence of neglect. GBH 23:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

This page is very incomplete: It covers the Western world and the very western world (i.e. Britain) almost exclusively although "gibbetting" (by other names) was common in many cultures.

Ex. From the book "The History of Islam" by Payne. p 201 - 202 - the execution of al-Hallaj - March 26, 922.

"A criminal sentenced to death must die many deaths. First, his skull was smashed; then he was scourged; then his hands and feet were cut off; then the body was roped to the GIBBET and tar was applied to the bleeding stumps to prevent him from bleeding to death. All day he hung there . . . .

To be a good article, it MUST be expanded to other cultures.24.10.102.46 04:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. The word and practice of using a gibbett are culturally and historically specific. There is a danger of being misleading in extending an article cross culturally. The risk is that by including similar or translated references the original and accurate meaning of the word becomes confused. This is similar to the nineteenth century attitude of trying to translate other cultural practices into the English language and culture. The specific reference is interesting but I suspect is just such as usage. The victim is attached to something like a gibbett, for which the author uses the word as an easy equivalent. However, the practice is not the same, and this should not be patr of this article. By all means it could be a seperate linked article on related or similar practices. GBH 13:45, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you can preface the category "Display" with a trace to its earliest use in Babylonian law (it could actually go all the way back to Sumerian law i'm not sure but it definitely should be noted). Contrary to this article's implications common law was not the first to implement the gibbet as punishment.

Tom Otter

Although an interesting story this adds nothing. Also the story about the gibbet collapsing because people took souvenirs is not supported by the reference given. There seem to lots of other folklore/rural legens associated with Tom Otter's gibbeting and the murder weapon but they have no place here.GBH 09:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Added section on last gibbettings removed because it wasn't about the last (explaining 20 Oct reversion) and didn't seem to have a place in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.36.94 (talk) 21:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Math Error

First: In 1843 England outlawed gibbeting.

Then: In 1837, five years after the practice ceased in England, the body of John McKay was gibbeted on a tree near the spot where he murdered Joseph Wilson near Perth, Tasmania

OBSERVATION

I think this probably means that although the last acts were in 1832, the practise wasn't actually outlawed until 1843.

A search: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22John+McKay%22+%22Joseph+Wilson%22+%22Gibbet+Hill%22 produced no date. -- Mitch3000 04:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I also noticed this seemingly contradictory bit, and think it should be made clearer. Claireislovely (talk) 15:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Gibbets on St. Lamberti/Münster

There are also three gibbets on the church "St. Lamberti" (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lamberti_%28M%C3%BCnster%29) in Münster, made in 1535. They have been used for executions and the original gibbets remain on the church today (see http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/MuensterLambertikircheDirektesSonnenlicht.jpg). Any thoughts on integrating http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Muenster_Lamberti_Koerbe_6428.jpg? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.223.228.160 (talk) 12:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)