Talk:Hackney carriage

A Hackney Carriage is a cab licensed by the Public Carriage Office which in its modern form means a black cab; but a Hackney Carriage can refer to any of the various forms of cab that have existed since The first horse drawn Hackney carriages (including the victorian Hansom cabs).

I don't agree that other colours of London cab are frequently seen other than for sponsored advertisement vehicles. Dainamo 07:53, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Etymology of "Hackney"?

I've googled for this word, and most of the sources agree with the French word "haquenée", pointing the word prior to "hackney". But according to Académie Française, Online Etymology Dictionary (see "hack(2)"), and hackney - yourDictionary.com - American Heritage Dictionary, the etymological lineage seems to have flown in another direction. Are there more solid sources to support either side? Help is appreciated:)--Roberto Carlos No.3 17:26, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I have no special axe to grind (even though I live in Hackney), but may I point out that the entry for Hackney Horse has the derivation only from the East London area. Perhaps both pieces should mention both possibilities...

Tarquin Binary 14:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

In the television series 'What the Stuarts did for us' (BBC) it is described as coming from a Flemish word rather than the French as suggested here. 81.132.249.44 13:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ireland

In ireland, a Hackney cab is the exact opposite, its a cab you hire privately. At least, thats what I use, can someone back me up on this, before I add it to the artical? --Richy 15:34, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Yep, in Ireland a hackney is specifically a minicab. Vehicles that pick on a streets are instead called taxis. Added a section on ROI to the article. --Rdd 19:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Any reason why the ROI section was removed before I put it back in? --Rdd 19:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It has gone to Taxicabs around the world#Republic of Ireland in its own section. This Hackney Carriage article may disappear, in due course, as part of a restructuring. TerriersFan 23:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Cities

Added Edinburgh to the other cities that have black cabs, others feel free to add them, to give a more detailed list perhaps.

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The Knowledge and satnav

Presumably, the existence of inexpensive in-car satellite navigation systems will make The Knowledge far less important? -- Anon. 08:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Hackney disambiguation

Although my main concern is with geographical definitions (which were getting messy), I have now added this page to a disambiguation page for Hackney in general.

Tarquin Binary 14:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, that last didn't work as I intended. There are just too many existing links in to the geographical Hackney - just a hindrance to users to put disambiguation in the way. But I have put a line in on the borough page referring users onward to the disambiguation page, which links here and to the horses.

Tarquin Binary 15:11, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Proposed restructuring

Please see discussion at Talk:Taxicabs around the world#proposed restructuring. TerriersFan 19:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

History: recursive link

the Hackney coach link in the history paragraph redirects to the same article. This is confusing.

Fixed, thx - I better fix the fact that there are two History sections as well! TerriersFan 01:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

tv

some have tvs

London black cab registration numbers

I regularly walk past two taxi ranks at Canary Wharf, and I've noticed that nearly all of the registration numbers are between 10,000 and the low 30,000s; occasionally there's one in the low 90'000s. This is true of other taxis I've seen about London over the last few days as well. Presumably (since there's 21,000 of these in London) the first batch are the normal range and the others are special. Can someone explain in the article why there are none below 10,000 and the significance of the 90,000+ numbers? Lessthanideal (talk) 16:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

"Bronze" & "Silver" labels on TX taxis.

Some of the TX model taxis have badges "Bronze" and "Silver" on the back. Presumably these are specific models in the TX range. Is there any information about the differences in these?

It should probably go on the specific TX pages, but I don't know exactly which ones are involved so I'm asking on this page. Lessthanideal (talk) 16:33, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

External Links to a Cab Service

It seems to me that this is probably spamming, and a violation of the general policy to put external links at the end of the article. Lee-Anne (talk) 14:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I've changed the links to point to internal Wikipedia pages corresponding to the base commercial vehicle chassis, in the case of the Volkswagen Odyssey and the Ford Journey, both of which appear to be taxi conversions of standard commercial models. I believe that the specific conversions should be discussed there, if at all, since these are not purpose built, but mere variations. Lee-Anne (talk) 14:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Article Name

While I understand that "Hackney carriage" is the correct name for a London taxi of today, they are hardly ever referred to as such in normal speech. "London taxi" or "black cab" are much more common. "Hackney carriage" would be used of the horse-drawn vehicles that predated them. Wikipedia policy dictates that an article be named for the most commonly used name of a subject. I suggest an article rename. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Another Londoncentric article! Hackney carriage is a term used all over the United Kingdom and does not refer to the shape of the vehicle. A Hackney carriage is compared to a Private Hire Vehicle: one is licenced to be stopped in the street (hailed), whereas the other needs to be booked in advance and cannot be hailed. Francis Hannaway 19:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC)