Talk:Halkomelem language

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[edit] Number of speakers

I've changed the number of speakers from "less than 12 fluent" to 200 as per the linked estimate at the First Nations Languages of British Columbia site. The figure of 12 probably reflects a misunderstanding of an estimate for mainland Halkomelem (Upriver and Downriver) as an estimate for the entire language. Island Halkomelem, that is, basically, Cowichan, has quite a few more speakers.Bill 00:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] how is hulquiminum spelled?

Hul'q'umin'um, Hul'qumi'num, or Hul'q'umi'num?

I've found various spellings on the internet, all from reliable sources. -- TheMightyQuill 14:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hul’qumi’num language article

There is an article named Hul’qumi’num language. I think this article can be replaced by a #REDIRECT [[]] article toward the Halkomelem language article. Anybody disagrees ? - Arctur 19:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly disagreement, but the "third way" is for Halqemeylem, Hunquminum (not sure diacriticals there) and Hul'qumi'num to be separate articles; are they sufficiently different in to warrant separate articles? Certainly they have different social contexts, i.e. marine culture vs river culture, and the cultural "distance" between the Cowichan area and, say, the Chilliwack or Yale areas.Skookum1 20:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
They might one day warrant separate articles, but what that article had to offer did not require a separate article. If this article gets to big, we can split. I redirected Hul’qumi’num language here. - TheMightyQuill 16:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation of consonants

If the description of certain consonants as "glottalized" is correct, then the IPA representation (such as [pˤ]) is wrong. The IPA symbol for a glottalized consonant is exactly like the native orthography: p′. A symbol like [pˤ] indicates a pharyngealized pronounciation, which is a completely different sound.

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