Talk:Heptagram

See also?

Why does this page have a see also to Week? The two subjects don't seem connected on any level other than dealing with groups of seven, and we don't have a link to the seven dwarfs either. Vashti 07:53, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I took it out. --Abdull 17:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Obtuse/acute heptagram?

I have never heard of these terms. They are misleading, as there are no obtuse angles in the "obtuse" one. Google of "Obtuse heptagram" returns this WP article and ones like http://hpathy.co.uk/Seven.html, http://www.crystalinks.com/numerology3.html, etc - hardly authoratitive. Got a better reference? Otherwise we should refer to these labels as non-mathematical. Andrew Kepert 07:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Should we perhaps refer to them as "narrow" and "broad" heptegrams? I think we need to come up with some way to distinguish between the two.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 14:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I have no loyalty to the terms, not seen them any where else. Whatever name is used, best to me to use the Schläfli symbols {7/2}, {7/3} with them. Tom Ruen 15:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I changed them in the article to first and second. I see better terms, more verbose might be "first stellation", "second Stellation", at least by a stellation process of extending facets of a regular polytope. The terminology is used for polyhedra, like Magnus_Wenninger#Stellations_of_dodecahedron. Tom Ruen 15:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I like the term "nth Stellation", and Stellation contains sufficient (if untidy) mathematical explanation for the interested reader to save it being explained here (e.g. what the Schlafli symbol means in this restricted case). So I would use these terms in the bullet list.

Oh yes, and s/authoratitive/authoritative/ above. 8-P

Andrew Kepert 08:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia should not be an advertisment

There are a few that use a heptagram in their logo. If they were internationally known (i.e. Maersk), maybe, it would be note worthy, but WP should not be used for a method of advertisements. My company uses a heptagram and do not believe it should be included in WP until it does something significant.Septagram (talk) 01:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Just a suggestion Heptagram Cyberglobe Networks. If you use a large red blinking scrolling headline, it would be even more noticeable since you are already on line one >;-).Septagram (talk) 02:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

How can we help Joshua Jude realise what he is doing? Clearly, removing his self-promotion entries is not enough, and amazingly he even has the cheek to say that doing such is vandalism!

Joshua, if Heptagram Cyberglobe Networks has anything going for it, then let somebody else say so. It was terribly placed at the top of the article. I'm glad to see that you now put it further down the page, but of all the cultural connections, your HCN (formula for (hydrogen)cyanide don't you know...) thing is probably the least relevant. Probably best to delete it and concentrate on your project away from Wikipedia. If you do well, maybe somebody else will want to write an article about you. That's surely what all this is about. Would you like it if everybody promoted themselves all over Wikipedia? Tomid (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Joshua would be happier if he started his own WP page dedicated in depth to his company. This WP page may actually get in his way of his message.Septagram (talk) 04:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

If he starts its own page, it will most likely be deleted anyway. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Septagram or Septegram?

Which is correct? 87.116.189.219 (talk) 02:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Neither. —Tamfang (talk) 00:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sheriff's Badge

From the article: "The heptagram is also used in Christianity to symbolize the seven days of creation and became a traditional symbol for warding off evil, thus the reason that most sheriff's badges are first heptagonal shaped."

Other than speculation, does anyone have actual authority for the two assertions here? The first being that sheriff's badges bearing a heptagonal shape are so, because it is a traditional symbol for warding off evil, and the second being that "most sheriff's badges are first heptagonal shaped." The 7 point badge is used more out West, but in the Midwest, South, and New England, 5 and 6 point badges are much more popular, or even shields. For example, one of the first sheriff's offices in the U.S. uses a 6 point badge: http://www.firstsheriff.com/

Seems this is merely speculation by someone who lives in a jurisdiction where the sheriff has a 7 point badge. 69.135.185.154 (talk) 00:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

In my limited experience (mostly in California), seven-point stars are more often used by city police, six-point by sheriffs. —Tamfang (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Should Math information be in this article?

I recently removed math information (reverted by User:Septagram) because, so far as I know, mathematicians don't use the word "heptagram". It isn't used in Coxeter "Regular Polytopes", which is the standard reference. Looking on the web, it is in Mathworld but the vast majority of references are occult or "New Age". It's an obvious coinage similar to "pentagram" (which Coxeter does mention) but that too is mainly an occult symbol (all the OED references are occult). Neither Heptagram (nor Septagram) are listed in the OED so I think it's a fairly new coinage, or perhaps just a confusion with heptagon. So I'd like to remove the math information from here, though there should be a prominent link to heptagon which obviously covers the math stuff. However, given his username User:Septagram may be more of an expert on this than I am. Regards. Dingo1729 (talk) 17:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)