Talk:Hikaru Sulu

Name stuff

I have removed the following:

It should be noted that the name "Sulu" is not a Japanese name but also impossible to render identically in Japanese (the katakana for the name comes out as "Suuruu", and even as "Suru" kanji for use as a person's name are impossible). This is a moot point, however, as in English the character is half Filipino and so his surname can be thought to have come from that side of his family, and the character was renamed in the Japanese dub of the series to simply "(Mister) Kato."

While this negates the old joke about Star Trek being called "Master Helmsman Hikaru Sulu" in Japan, it should be noted that Episode 44 of Star Trek Voyager, "Flashback," in which Sulu appears, was titled "The Legendary Mister Kato" in Japanese.

as it seems speculative fancruft. We cannot include this sort of uncited stuff. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hikaru Kato??

I was cleaning up a dab page for Kato and came across the "fact" that in the Japanese version of the Star Trek series, the character is called "Hikaru Kato" - this despite the fact that the character wasn't even given a first name until the series. Additionally, the info about the alternative naming doesn't appear to be cited. I doubt the veracity of this, and would recommend the following:

1. the redirect be removed and the Hikaru Kato page speedily deleted, and
2. the alternative naming be removed from the Kato dab page.

- Jack Sebastian (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

John Cho

Shouldn't we be using an in-character representation of Cho instead of a generic image? 70.29.212.131 (talk) 04:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree; the other character articles have one of each, so it would seem smart to follow that precedent. The problem with this is that in those articles, we are using non-free images of Pine and Quinto as Kirk and Spock, respectively - something we actively seek to avoid if at all possible. In this case, we have a free image of Cho, and we don't need him to be in ST gear to know who is portraying Sulu in the film. We just need to see his face. All in all, this article is stronger, image-wise than the others. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The uniform has appreciably changed several times, so it might be fitting to show him with his sci-fi sword in spacediving gear. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 05:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

That would be a judgment call, and mostly beside the point. Whatever image you use, you are going to need a pretty good reason for using it. Choosing one based solely upon the costuming won't be sustainable. For what its worth, I think showing him in the traditional costume might be more effective. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Relationship with Uhura in Mirror, Mirror

I think it should be noted that in the Season 2 episode Mirror, Mirror, Mirror-Sulu was flirting with Uhura and thus may have some hidden interest in her in the real universe. Superk1a (talk) 16:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

It's speculation. Unless you have a solid source that states that, we cannot draw that conclusion. As the actor is a confirmed homosexual, I think it unlikely. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 19:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Hikaru Sulu → Sulu (Star Trek) – Per WP:UCN. The character is invariably referred to as "Sulu" in the Star Trek TV series and movies themselves. According to the article, the first name "Hikaru" wasn't "revealed" until the 1981 novel The Entropy Effect. This move proposal rationale is similar to those that resulted in moves of Abraham Simpson to Grampa Simpson and Philip J. Fry to Fry (Futurama) Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. No "(Star Trek)", please! The disambiguator is supposed to be a category that the subject is an item within, in this case "(character)." See WP:NCDAB. Move to Mr. Sulu. This is the true WP:COMMONNAME of the subject, as you can see here and here. Kauffner (talk) 14:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

• Support. "Mr" would be unnecessarily contrary to WP practice, and hardly any help. Editors, please explore such DAB pages as Sulu (disambiguation) before forming an opinion and voting. Do some broader exploration of current titles also, with this internal search for example. We should consider the whole picture at RMs. Noetica^Tea? 23:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose. Given that disambiguation is needed (which isn't in question, so Sulu (disambiguation) is rather irrelevant here), we prefer natural disambiguators (such as first names) over parenthetical ones. The recent Philip J. Fry move is, as far as I can tell, an abberation influenced by other titles of Futurama characters. That shouldn't be a problem here, as we have James T. Kirk, Leonard McCoy, and Pavel Chekov already. Powers ^T 02:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. The name appeared in a ST movie, it's "canon", and unambiguous. Every character listed in Template:Star Trek: The Original Series is just the name, no "(Star Trek)" added. (Christine Chapel · Pavel Chekov · James T. Kirk · Leonard McCoy · Janice Rand · Montgomery Scott · Spock · Hikaru Sulu · Nyota Uhura). And not "Mr Sulu" either, as the character has higher rank in some appearances. Barsoomian (talk) 19:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose - the character's name is "Hikaru Sulu" - this has been spoken onscreen and is about as official as you can get. MikeWazowski (talk) 19:16, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.