Talk:House (TV series)

Break-ins

Enjoyed this great article - just one thought . . . House often instructs his team to break-in to patients' homes in order to gather diagnostic evidence. This fits with his "everybody lies" world-view. Is this a frequent enough occurrence and plot device to form part of the overall summary giving a flavour of the show ? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.209.254 (talk) 23:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Seeing how they do it in every episode, I'd say so. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 08:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The lede

Since the lede is supposed to be a summary of the article, I reworded it to try to better summarize the article. From what I read in the "critical reception" section, House is critically acclaimed in its first three seasons, and then got mixed reactions for its fourth and fifth season. There has been no mention of the reviews of the sixth or seventh season, so I don't know about the show's current critical reception. I just don't think it's an accurate summary to simply state "critically acclaimed".--Gene2010 (talk) 03:53, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Mixed in the fourth season, but positive overall. Unquestionably a fall off in the fifth. And then a strong rebound at the beginning of the sixth. I haven't had the chance to research further yet (or to add what I found so far for the sixth). For the moment, perhaps edit to "critically acclaimed for much of its run"? DocKino (talk) 07:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that feels more accurate.--Gene2010 (talk) 08:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Most watched show in the world?

Seems like an awfully bold statement, especially for a featured article, and with a short Huffington Post 'article' (if you can all it that) as the only (living) citation. I think it should be removed until further citation is provided. KnowitallWiki (talk) 06:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Why? How many sources you want or need for a trivial statement that happened three years ago? Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 07:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Another source Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 07:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Too much cast minutia in lead

The text from "During the first three seasons, House's diagnostic team..." up to "...and her position is filled by grad student Martha M. Masters (Amber Tamblyn)." seems like way too much detail for a lead section. Can someone streamline this a bit and move the details, as necessary, into the body of the article? - dcljr (talk) 23:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

No. It's good as is. Length and level of detail are both absolutely appropriate for a 150-episode TV series article lede.—DCGeist (talk) 23:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Maybe the spolier about Cutner's death could be removed from this section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.131.110.103 (talk) 13:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Elementary, my dear Cuddy

Seeing he's consciously based on Holmes, is there evidence the name "House" was selected as a pun...? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 08:09, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

In the interviews included in season 1 (or 2), Singer says it's directly derived from Holmes. So yes. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:45, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Cast

Why is there no clear cut table or list of cast members and the characters they play? CRRaysHead90 | ^{We Believe!} 02:14, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

There is, it's listed at List of House cast members. Kevinbrogers (talk) 02:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I assumed there was an article like that, but, shouldn't there be a small table listing current cast members on the main article like say what is on the article for Full House? CRRaysHead90 | ^{We Believe!} 06:05, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Amber Tamblyn, Odette Annable, Charlyne Yi

These actresses all were credited as "starring". I'm not quite sure why they were removed. Tamblyn I can sort of understand, as she was "Also Starring" after the theme song (even though this is how Kal Penn, Peter Jacobsen, and Olivia Wilde were all credited until recently). Annable and Yi, however, are definitely starring, as they were credited immediately after Hugh Laurie and the others in the season 8 episodes in which they appeared (these episodes had no theme song, and all actors were credited the same). Again, I'm not quite sure why these people were removed from the infobox, and I don't want to get into an edit war over this. Kevinbrogers (talk) 14:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Tamblyn was never in the "Starring" section of the credits at all. Come to think of it, Kal Penn should probably removed too, because I don't think he was there either, although I'd have to check. Jacobsen and Wilde were both included as stars in series 7. The eipsodes with Annable and Yi didn't have a title sequence, so it's impossible to say whether they count as stars yet, but as each has been in a grand total of one episode, it's far too early to include them yet. Absconded Northerner (talk) 15:32, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I'd have to disagree. The credits for the season 8 premiere say "Starring Hugh Laurie" and then immediately say "Odette Annable". The credits last week specifically say "Starring Hugh Laurie" and then move on to say "Omar Epps", "Robert Sean Leonard", and "Charlyne Yi". In season 7, the credits literally say "Also Starring Amber Tamblyn". Just because a character isn't in the theme song doesn't mean they aren't starring. Look at The Office or Parks and Recreation, in which many of the characters are considering starring but aren't listed in the theme song, but rather given the "Also Starring" credit. If you'd like, I could find a source that specifically says all three are starring. Kevinbrogers (talk) 17:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

"Also starring" is generally treated as different to "Starring". There's an infobox somewhere that makes this specific, but I can't find it right now. Absconded Northerner (talk) 17:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I thought that might be the case for Amber Tamblyn. Thanks for clearing that up. I figured it would just be the same. The "also starring" doesn't apply to Annable and Yi though (as they are designated starring in the titles), but I see your point of waiting a little while until they're in more than just one episode. Kevinbrogers (talk) 18:00, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I've just watched the intros of the two season 8 episodes again, and the word "starring" is never used, but you're right - the two actors are definitely in a list with the other "stars". It certainly looks like Yi will be a star in this series, and I'd hope that House ends up hiring Annable's character to make up for getting her fired, but it looks like we can agree to wait for now. Absconded Northerner (talk) 19:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me (judging by the promo for episode 3, it looks like she will be getting hired). Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Well both of them (plus Olivia Wilde) are back in the main credits for ep 3, so they can probably go back in. Sorry for the confusion, but it's better to sure. Absconded Northerner (talk) 07:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

As the repeated reversions by multiple parties should have demonstrated to you, thr elimination of Tamblyn and Penn remains a minority view. The consensus view under which the article was developed and achieved FA status was that inclusion in the infobox was not based on interpretation of the credits but rather on the players' actual role in the show and their treatment in other media, per out verifiability standards. The idea, for instance, that Wilde and Jacobson belong, but Penn does not, because of lag time in changing the title sequence is obviously absurd.—DCGeist (talk) 03:41, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ You're wrong. Quite simple. The template is for listing the stars, not for people described as "guest starring" or "also starring". If you actually look at the talk page archives for the Infobox there is ample evidence to support this. See, for instance, this brief topic.

While it might be appropriate to treat Kal Penn as a special case, since although he was never credited as a star, he was in 36 episodes, Tamblyn was only in 14 - a number exceeded by appearances from Jennifer Foley (Rachel Taub, 15) and Anne Dudek (Amber Volakis, 18). For comparison the other way, Wilde was in 79 episodes and Jacobsen in 83, both well over double Penn's appearances. And don't forget, consensus can change, so your comments about FA status are totally irrelevant. Absconded Northerner (talk) 07:28, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Moving House

Since the title card (for the Fox episodes; maybe different for export) is "House, MD", shouldn't this page be at House, M.D.? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 08:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

It was moved from there some time ago so a move back is likely to be controversial. See the archives for previous discussions - Here, here and here for instance. Basically, there's some disagreement over what the show is actually called. Absconded Northerner (talk) 08:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

why is oliva wilde's character 13 on that list twice? 98.20.191.7 (talk) 03:02, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

character in cast chart repeated

oliva wildes character is listed twice in the chart. why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.191.7 (talk) 03:03, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

License Fees

In an IMDB Blog Post announcing the cancelling of the show, the mention that it was in part due to rising license fees. Does anyone have information on what they're talking about with regards to this?

http://tv.blog.imdb.net/2012/02/08/fox-officially-announces-the-end-of-house/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.127.181.2 (talk) 17:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)