Talk:JFK (film)

Sources

Hi. I saw this is nominated for FAC. One of the first items checked is sources. Some films don't necessarily have a lot of information about their construct and interpretation, but Stone's do. I wrote the article for Mulholland Dr. - another one that has a lot of stuff written about it. I checked the Film Indexes Online to see if there was anything more available on this. I see you have some on this list. But I wanted to make sure you saw everything. --Moni3 (talk) 17:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• O'HARA, Helen: At Home/The Top 10: Courtroom battles

Empire n.211 , January 2007, p.184-185, English, illus Top ten listing and brief critique of the best movie courtro om scenes (and one entry for the worst).

• LAWRENCE, Will: In conversation with Oliver Stone

Empire n.208 , October 2006, p.137-142, English, illus Filmmaker Oliver Stone discusses his turbulant life and care er and in particular his film WORLD TRADE CENTER. There is also a listing and brief critique of Oliver Stone's five bes t films.

• 201 Greatest movies of all time

Empire n.201 , March 2006, p.77-88,90-101, English, illus A listing of the top two hundred and one films as chosen by the reader's of Empire magazine. With comments by actors and filmmaker's.

• NATHAN, Ian: At Home/All-time 100: Month Two: Thrillers

Empire n.198 , December 2005, p.214-215, English, illus Ten thrillers chosen to be included in a perfect DVD collec- tion of one hundred films.

• NATHAN, Ian: At Home/DVD Club: Oliver Stone

Empire n.196 , October 2005, p.174-177, English, illus The results of an online forum to discuss and analyse a range of Oliver Stone films, including: JFK, PLATOON and ALEXANDER. Also includes a biofilmography of Stone and reader's top five Oliver Stone films.

• LEYLAND, Matthew: The Oliver Stone Collection

Sight and Sound (0037-4806) v.15 n.3 , March 2005, p.85, English

• MORRISON, Alan: Remote control: ffw: region 1 classic

Empire n.175 , January 2004, p.178, English, illus

• GALVIN, Peter: DVD reviews

IF n.34 , June 2001, p.022, English, illus

• AUSTER, Albert: The Bacchae, the 'missing prince', & Oliver Stone's...

Journal of Popular Film & Television (0195-6051) v.28 n.1 , April 2000, p.30-35, English, illus Examines JFK and NIXON in the context of mythology. Article title ends '...presidential films'.

• BRILEY, Ron: Teaching JFK (1991): Potential Dynamite in the Hands of...

Film and History (0360-3695) v.28 n.1/2 , January 1998, p.8-15, English, illus ...'Our Youth?'. How JFK can be used in the classroom, and the issues on cinema, politics and history raised. In a special focus on Oliver Stone as Cinematic Historian.

• CARNES, Mark C.: Past Imperfect: History According to the Movies

Cinéaste v.22 n.4 , January 1997, p.33-37, English, illus Interview with Oliver Stone about his work and criticism from historians, particularly after JFK and NIXON. This is an expanded version of the interview which appears in the book: 'Past Imperfect: History according to the Movies'

• CROWDUS, Gary: History, Dramatic License and Larger Historical Truths

Cinéaste v.22 n.4 , January 1997, p.38-42, English, illus A follow-up interview to enable Oliver Stone to respond to his critics and to the issues raised by Mark C. Carnes in the previous pages.

• KOPELL, J. Mira: Writing historical screenplays: everybody must get Stone

Creative Screenwriting (1084-8665) v.3 n.2 , October 1996, p.73-82, English, illus A discussion of the responsbility of the screenwriter to the subject of an historical screenplay, referring to Oliver Stone's NIXON and JFK.

• News in Brief: Net Profits System Faces Legal Challenges

Screen International (0307-4617) n.1063 , 21 June 1996, p.2, English

• MORRISON, Ken: The Technology of Homicide: Construction of Evidence and ...

CineAction! (0826-9866) n.38 , September 1995, p.16-24, English, illus A history of the murdered body and its investigation in film, using the shower scene in PSYCHO and the Zapruder film in JFK as examples. Part of an issue devoted to 'Murder in America'.

• ROMANOWSKI, William D: JFK: Filmaking, History, Conflict

Journal of Popular Film & Television (0195-6051) v.21 n.2 , July 1993, p.63-71, English, illus Detailed examination of JFK and it's significance in the creation, maintenance and transformation of the public perception of the Kennedy assassination.

• KELLER, James R: Oliver Stone's JFK and the 'Circulation of Social Energy'...

Journal of Popular Film & Television (0195-6051) v.21 n.2 , July 1993, p.72-78, English, illus About the reaction to JFK - the television specials, academic articles, conferences and official statements, and the change in public opinion that lead to the release of some official documents.

• Sight and Sound (0037-4806) v.3 n.7 , July 1993, p.61, English

Video note: 'Director's Cut'

• MEDHURST, Martin J.: The rhetorical structure of Oliver Stone's JFK.

Critical Studies in Mass Communication v.10 n.2 , June 1993, p.129-143., English The film JFK is examined as a metaphoric interpretation or parable of the human condition.

• White, Jerry: HIDDEN AGENDA and JFK: conspiracy thrillers

Jump Cut (0146-5546) n.38 , June 1993, p.14-18, English, illus An analysis of HIDDEN AGENDA (Ken Loach 1990) and JFK (Oliver Stone 1991) which suggests that although both films are critical of their respective governments they fail to suggest the possibility of societal change.

• HOBERMAN, J.: Heroes and memories

Sight and Sound (0037-4806) v.3 n.3 , March 1993, p.6-9, English, illus Analysis of Hollywood's 1990s tendency to produce films based on historical events in the 1960s which mythologise the events and their protagonists e.g. HOFFA, JFK and MALCOLM X.

• Cinéaste v.19 n.2/3 , December 1992, p.4, 92, English

Letter from David Ehrenstein in response to the interview (Cinéaste, May 1992) with Zachary Sklar, with replies from Cinéaste and Zachary Sklar - on the film JFK.

• The Eyes Have It

Premiere (0894-9263) v.6 n.2 , October 1992, p.23, English, illus Light-hearted article pinpointing mistakes in the film.

• Entrevista de Cine Cubano

Cine Cubano (0009-6946) n.137 , October 1992, p.57-64, Spanish, illus Interview with Manuel Pérez Paredes, about JFK

• Sight and Sound (0037-4806) v.2 n.6 , October 1992, p.66 & 68, English

Video note

• Empire n.36 , June 1992, p.7, English

Jack Valenti attacks Oliver Stone's JFK.

• Through the looking glass:A critical overview of Oliver St..

Cinéaste v.19 n.1 , May 1992, p.8-24, English, illus p. 8-22. Several articles on JFK. p.23-24. Oliver Stone's address to the National Press Club concerning an accusation by several journalists that he distorted history in JFK.

• CROWDUS, Gary: Clarifying the conspiracy - an interview with Oliver Stone

Cinéaste v.19 n.1 , May 1992, p.25-27, English, illus Interview with Oliver Stone in January 1992 about JFK and its reception with the press.

• CROWDUS, Gary: Getting the facts straight - an interview with Zachary Sklar

Cinéaste v.19 n.1 , May 1992, p.28-32, English, illus Interview with Zachary Sklar about his work on JFK.

• CROWDUS, Gary: Striving for authenticity

Cinéaste v.19 n.1 , May 1992, p.33-34, English, illus Interview with Jane Rusconi about her work as research co- ordinator on JFK.

• Cinéaste v.19 n.1 , May 1992, p.35, English

List of the ten best books on the JFK assassination, book- shops and other resources as well as a list of videos.

• Screen International (0307-4617) n.852 , 10 April 1992, p.4, English, illus

Jack Valenti has defended President Lyndon Johnson after allegations made in the film JFK that he was involved in the cover up of President Kennedy's assassination.

• KELLY, David: Valenti calls 'JFK' a 'hoax'

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.321 n.27 , 03 April 1992, p.1, 37, English Jack Valenti, president of the Motion Picture Association of America, attacks Oliver Stone's JFK, likening it to the propaganda films of the Nazis and old-style Soviet revisionist history.

• EDWARDS, Keith

Films in Review (0015-1688) v.43 n.3/4 , March 1992, p.115-116, English Short review.

• PHINNEY, Kevin: Legislation to open JFK files said 'imminent.'

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.321 n.11 , 12 March 1992, p.1, 23, English Controversy over JFK encourages government to bring in a bill to release the assassination.

• ALLISON, Rob: Record Reviews

Soundtrack! The Collector's Quarterly (0771-6303) v.11 n.41 , March 1992, p.20, English Review of released soundtrack for JFK

• CIEUTAT, Michel et al: L'Actualite: Oliver Stone

Positif (0048-4911) n.373 , March 1992, p.18-30, French, illus Articles discussing JFK and conspiracy theories and an interview with Oliver Stone about the film.

• GROVE, Martin A.: How 'Silence', 'JFK' stack up in Oscar race

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.321 n.2 , 28 February 1992, p.12, English

• COLLINS,Monica: JFK: The too-much-TV-airtime theory

TV Guide (0039-8543) v.40 n.8 , 22 February 1992, p.27, English Release of Oliver Stone's film JFK leads to several new programmes on TV networks.

• COCKBURN, Alexander: John and Oliver's bogus adventure.

Sight and Sound (0037-4806) v.1 n.10 , February 1992, p.22-24, English, illus Examines the historical facts behind Oliver Stone's JFK, looking at John F Kennedy and Vietnam in the 1960s.

• FISHER, Bob: The Whys and Hows of JFK.

American Cinematographer (0002-7928) v.73 n.2 , February 1992, p.42-46, 48, 50, 52, English, illus Article about the filming and production of JFK, in which cinematographer Robert Richardson talks in detail about his lighting and camera techniques, equipment and shooting particular scenes, as well as working with Oliver Stone.

• Sight and Sound (0037-4806) v.1 n.10 , February 1992, p.48-49, English, illus

• Revue du Cinéma/Image et Son n.479 , February 1992, p.25-27, French, illus

• NIOGRET, Hubert: L'Actualité; Les Films

Positif (0048-4911) n.372 , February 1992, p.46-48, French, illus

• SVITIL, Torene: New films

Empire n.32 , February 1992, p.16-17, English, illus

• COONEY, Jenny: Who shot JFK?

Empire n.32 , February 1992, p.58-65, English, illus Oliver Stone and Kevin Costner talk about JFK. Also includes theories on the Kennedy assassination.

• GROVE, Martin A.: Hollywood Report:Warners developing JFK's 'positive effect'

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.320 n.49 , 17 January 1992, p.11, English

• Screen International (0307-4617) n.839 , 10 January 1992, p.19, English, illus

• BECK, Henry Cabot: JFK

Interview (0149-8932) v.22 n.1 , January 1992, p.28, English, illus Review.

• HOPPER, Dennis: Gary Oldman

Interview (0149-8932) v.22 n.1 , January 1992, p.84-98, English Oldman discusses his career and his role as Lee Harvey Oswald in 'JFK.'

• STONE, Oliver: Oliver Stone talks back.

Premiere (0894-9263) v.5 n.5 , January 1992, p.66-70, 72, English, illus Oliver Stone talks about the problems surrounding the making of JFK, especially those created by the government and the CIA.

• Front desk: news: Dallas in Wonderland

Empire n.31 , January 1992, p.9, English, illus Detractors claim that Oliver Stone is distorting the truth to fit in with his own conspiracy theory of JFK's assassination.

• BUSCH, Anita M: WB ads conspire to counter 'JFK' blast in Newsweek

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.320 n.34 , 26 December 1991, p.1,16, English Warner Bros try to counter negative feed-back from Newsweek cover story by a new advertising campaign.

• Variety (0042-2738) , 16 December 1991, p.57, 81, English

• Big Easy's taking it hard as 'JFK' revives Garrison 'case'

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.320 n.27 , 16 December 1991, p.7,23, English Article about Jim Garrison's role in circumstances surrounding the assassination of President Kennedy, reviving in the wake of Oliver Stone's JFK.

• BYRGE, Duane

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.320 n.27 , 16 December 1991, p.7,22, English

• CARR, Jay: Stone defends `JFK': `I've done all my homework'

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.318 n.40 , 15 August 1991, p.9,16, English

• Screen International (0307-4617) n.813 , 28 June 1991, p.4, English

Details of controversy surrounding film.

• Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.317 n.39 , 04 June 1991, p.17, English

• Who's afraid of Oliver Stone?

Empire n.24 , June 1991, p.9, English, illus Oliver Stone has been accused of preventing the production of two films about John F Kennedy which were being made at the same time as his JFK

• KING, Andrea: Dubious Valenti keeping his eye on Stone's 'JFK' picture.

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.317 n.26 , 15 May 1991, p.7, 16, English MPAA President Jack Valenti expressing concern in case the film is based in any way on a criticised Jim Garrision book, with a few details about the film's production.

• Dallas relives '63 nightmare as Stone begins filming `JFK'

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.317 n.6 , 18 April 1991, p.12,15, English

• Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.317 n.4 , 16 April 1991, p.22, English

• 'JFK' adds to Texas filming revival

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.317 n.2 , 12 April 1991, p.49, English On the revival of the film industry in Texas, due largely to JFK.

• Stone gets access to Oswald's perch.

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.316 n.45 , 03 April 1991, p.3, 13, English Dallas county commissioners reverse their decision about Oliver Stone using the Texas School Book Depository, where Kennedy's assassin fired from, for filming JFK

• Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.316 n.44 , 02 April 1991, p.25, English

• Stone access to Oswald site blocked.

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.316 n.41 , 27 March 1991, p.4, 21, English Access to the the actual site where the sniper shot at John F. Kennedy is denied to Oliver Stone for use in the film by Dallas county commissioners.

• `JFK' can film in book depository

Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.316 n.32 , 14 March 1991, p.4,6, English

• Screen International (0307-4617) n.796 , March 1991, p.14, English

Very nice! Thanks for this list.--J.D. (talk) 17:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Historical inaccuracies?

Over the years I have seen critics give a negative review for this film because "Oliver Stone lied." There was even an episode of "History vs. Hollywood" (a History Channel show where films are shown and then historians discuss the actual events portrayed and the movie's accuracy or inaccuracy) which unlike any other film ever shown, simply showed the entire film (edited for content and length of course) and then had less than a few minutes allocated at the end for the historical analysis which was simply something to the effect that "Oliver Stone lied."

Now I realize the Kennedy assassination is controversial, and it does seem to me that the version of the conspiracy offered in this film seems pretty fanciful, but it has always seemed odd to me that no treatment actually explains what specific historical facts are misrepresented. This article seems to be the same.

In the Criticism section there are several points where people give the same kind of line, with no specifics, many of them printed before the film was even shot. Then there are several reports of people rejecting the film out of hand, in some cases it would seem this is because the film purports a conspiracy, again without actually watching the film or responding to anything in it. We even have Jack Valenti quoted comparing Kennedy to Hitler and Oliver Stone to Leni Reifenstahl. Other than for pure hyperbole, I'm not sure why the Valenti quote even belongs here. After all, he is one to talk when it comes to something like that.

The closest we get to anything like a real critique, after all that screed, is the following:

In his book Reclaiming History, a history of the Kennedy assassination published 16 years after the release of JFK, Vincent Bugliosi devoted an entire chapter to Jim Garrison's prosecution of Clay Shaw and Oliver Stone's subsequent film.[50] Bugliosi lists thirty-two separate "lies and fabrications"[51] in Stone's movie and describes the film as "one continuous lie in which Stone couldn't find any level of deception and invention beyond which he was unwilling to go."

Okay, so now we are getting somewhere. Someone actually listed thirty-two points which might be contested. Unfortunately, although the quotes are sourced to a book, not one of them is repeated. It would seem to me that an article like this, especially about a film as controversial as this, would beg to have something like that in it. It's just this sort of treatment that only serves to feed the conspiracy theories.

I'm not defending Stone's version of the assassination. As a matter of fact I am pretty sure that Oswald killed Kennedy by firing three shots from the book depository just like the Warren report said he did, and that it is likely he had no co-conspirators both because none were required for the assassination and because he had a history of not working well with other people. (For some help, Penn and Teller did a pretty decent treatment of at least the ballistics in their episode on conspiracy theories). But if we're going to have half a page of quotes saying the film is inaccurate it only makes sense that we should say what people said was wrong with it. Rifter0x0000 (talk) 12:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that Wikipedia discourages use of self published sources. The vast majority of the sources that would do what you want would fall under this umbrella. If you want to find out specific innaccuracies you can check out this site or this one as well as the Bugliosi book. The problem is that both are self published and it would be problematic to use them in the article. Ramsquire ^{(throw me a line)} 16:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Jared Chandeler vandalism.

At the bottom of synopsis is vandalism. I cant seem to remove it because the text doesn't show up when i try to edit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.187.157.59 (talk) 02:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Breaking the 4th wall.

When Kevin Costner gives his long speech at the end of the trial, at the very end of the speech he looks at the camera and breaks the fourth wall (in my opinion.) when he says it is "our" job meaning the viewers job. When i saw this in the movie i thought it was kind of important and was wondering if it should added during the synopsis. It isn't a big deal but many movie synopsis's mention when a character breaks the 4th wall when it occurs in the movie and was just wondering if it was good enough to be added to this movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.187.157.59 (talk) 14:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I think that assertion is tenuous at best; it requires a pretty nuanced interpretation of the scene. One could just as easily say that Costner's character was speaking to the jury, and Oliver Stone just chose shots that give emphasis to the words. I have no idea which is true, but I'd support inclusion of your thesis if there are multiple independent reliable sources that also raise this question. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 15:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)