Talk:Janice Dickinson

vandalism?

Is that photo right? 74.112.181.70 03:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, gosh!! This article is a poorly worded, unsourced travesty and the accompanying talk page is one of the funniest I've ever seen - "... says she's bisexual, so why don't we put her in that category?" "Why not"

Hee haw. Hilarious.

no - the photo is not correct - it needs to be replaced with an appropriate image of Janice.

rude remarks

this is an encylopedia, not some blog, remarks like these shouldn't be posted "although utterly false as other models such as Twiggy Lawson and Beverly Johnsson were much more recognisable, even today Twiggy's face is more known to the world than Janice Dickinson, who to the majority of the world has only just appeared due to her appearance on America's Next Top Model." no one can know for sure who was more recognizable back then, it has been many years. "she was replaced by the real first supermodel Twiggy".

how could her restaurant get 1 star when zagat's does 30 points?? 216.165.11.242 01:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Someone trying to be snarkiy. I have removed the reference.

"While referring to Omarosa, Dickinson claimed to have seen "the scars of current American society." (She should have looked in the mirror) Omarosa herself brought up allegations that Dickinson was an alcoholic and a crack addict."

The parenthetical portion was clearly biased, needless, and rude. Removed. SINsApple 01:20, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

the photo needs to be corrected, that is clearly not Janice Dickinson.

I just came in here to find out who she was, and I see we're getting a running commentary on her exploits in a TV show she is currently starring in. In very poor English. Is this necessary? If we did this for every model/actress/celebrity, included the minutiae of their daily lives, then that would be, what do you call it? Oh yes, a BLOG. I move we strike the detail of "I'm a celebrity" leaving a reference to her appearance on this season.

62.189.169.182 15:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Multiracial?

Why is she in Category:Multiracial Americans? I didn't know that Polish and Belarusian are different races. --dm ^(talk) 18:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure they are either. --entropy9

She is mainly Belarussian and Polish,with a little Irish and Japanese.She says in her book No Lifeguard on Duty:...yes,gentlemen these are the eyes of my Japanese great-great grandmother........she was a fine Japanese woman but she had the poor taste to sleep with an Irish man......

Whatever, Janice is a byproduct of many races and she turned out fine to me. Although not stated in her autobiography, there are claims Ms. Dickinson is of Cherokee and Spanish descent, and possibly a hint of black or Jewish in her. I'm doubtful on those claims if they researched far into her family tree, but Ms. Dickinson's Japanese descent is authenatic to come from her own words. she's a tough woman as well a beautiful "super"-model overcamer her hardships as a child in a disfunctional family. I can't believe she's over 50 and don't look like one...what's her secret for appearing younger than her real age? + 63.3.14.2 02:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone's claiming the autobiography as a source for the claim that she's Japanese. Sheesh. Someone didn't read that autobio very carefully. Janice states clearly in the very section cited that she making it up. As far as she knows she has no Japanese ancestry. --Rhi 13:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

OK.She did say that.But dont you think she has Asiatic features? I think so.The first picture of Janice I saw she looked clearly Asian.So when I saw the these are the eyes of my Japanese great-great grandmother,I jumped on it.Oh,in E!'s True Hollywood Story:Janice Dickinson,the narrator says her mother is Polish and her father is Irish.J87

Bisexual

It says that she's bisexual, so why don't we put her in the category? --Sam22789 03:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)sam22789

why not mirageinred 03:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Janice stated in her biography (No Lifeguard on Duty) that she had a few sexual encounters with women. These were under the influence of drugs and and alcohol. No where in the book however, does she declare herself to be bisexual, and clearly she has a strong preference for men. It's not correct to assume that just because of a few encounters she is a bisexual woman.Lindseymitchell 03:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

PICTURE

SHE NEEDS A PICTURE PEOPLE!! UGHHH I would upload one, but stupid wikipedia people always take the ones I put up down —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.235.119 (talk) 21:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

points.

Under references, there are some points tacked on. I guess this should be removed, but I don't know how. Also, is there proof that she's favoured to win IAMCGMOOH? If we have to put up with an entire series with her, I will go nuts- I hope she gets voted out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.216.64.18 (talk) 09:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Age

If she graduated high school in 1970, her DOB is not 1955. That would make her only fifteen years old when she graduated. Her honest date of birth is 1951 or 1952 if she graduated in 1970. That would make her 18 or 19 at graduation. -- 75.72.219.150 (talk) 10:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. I will change it to 1951. Flyer22 (talk) 01:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

In the USA students leave high school at age 16, so a DOB of 1951 is incorrect. Also The article still contains the quotation "When I was just eighteen months old, in 1957, the family moved from Brooklyn to Florida" which also means that a DOB of 1951 is incorrect. -- Nick (talk) 09:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm from the USA, and most students here are either age 17 or age 18 when they graduate high school. But because of that Janice quote, I will change it back to 1955. Would probably be best to put 1954. Jeez, I wish she would state her real age. Flyer22 (talk) 10:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I've tried to extract some facts from the article and do some math. Let's see how many mistakes I can make. If Dickinson moved to Florida in August 1957 then she was born February 1956 (18 months earlier). If she was 53 in November 2007 then she was born February 1956. The math seems simple and I've no idea where the figure of 1955 came from. Finally a question: What source is being used for saying that she graduated in 1970? -- Nick (talk) 17:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, when I did the math of factoring in when she moved to Florida, I came to your results, but put 1955 back up there, because it was what was up there before, letting it stay there until we figure (or die trying) this out...and I thought you just wanted that returned...as you felt it was better than the 1951 date.

This is the source being used for her having graduated high school in 1970...[1]. That source also has the 1955 date of birth, so that's probably where it came from for this article. Although, according to this article, her birth date is sometimes stated as that year anyway...and stated as those other years mentioned in this article. Confusing. Flyer22 (talk) 18:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, if she graduated high school in 1970, I doubt that she was born in 1956, as this would mean that she was age 14 when she graduated high school. The 1955 date, if 1970 is when she graduated high school, is also why the IP above had a problem with the math as well, of course, seeing that that would mean that she was age 15 when she graduated high school...and I doubt her being age 15 when she graduated high school as well...unless she got moved up a couple of grades. Flyer22 (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not really pro any one year, just that the supporting evidence for 1951 is rather poor. Either 1955 or 1956 is fine by me. I still cannot see where in that article it says she graduated in 1970. Finally if it is not possible to be certain then the maybe the article should reflect that uncertainty. Maybe the article should list all the various possibilities and give supporting sources for each possibility. -- Nick (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Her driver's licese clearly shows 1955 and appears to be untampered with. It is in one of her books. 24.74.40.61 (talk) 23:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The issue of her age is a total mess in this article. The first mention of her name says she was born in '55, with a footnote saying anywhere from '51-60. But in the section titled 'age' it discusses only the possibility of her having been born in the 1940's. CaliforniaAndie (talk) 04:47, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

It's a definte mess, but that's because her age is all over the place. The woman guarded it well. Which is why we even have an Age section. 1955 seems to be the most reliable date to go with, backed up by a reliable source or two and her confirmation at least once. And I reverted this recent edit because it changes long-standing material that has a few sources to back it up, and it goes against the more reliable 1955 date of birth. Once sourced, the 1940s bit can be added back, but not all that changing of dates stuff. Flyer22 (talk) 18:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I highly doubt she is in her 60's pushing 70...—Mike Allen 00:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

"Supermodel"

Although Janice Dickinson claims to have "invented" the term in 1979, American Vogue used the term "supermodel" on the cover page to describe Margaux Hemingway on the September 1, 1975 edition. This can be seen clearly on the cover I found at eBay.Co.UK and in the Vogue archives.

Just giving a litle more evidence that Dickinson did not coin the term - at least not in 1979, anyway. ExRat (talk) 03:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

As I stated on the Supermodel talk page, thanks for that information, ExRat. Flyer22 (talk) 04:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

first to be known as "supermodel"

This article and supermodel claim Janice Dickinson did not coin the term "supermodel" and was not the first person to fit the description of "supermodel". However, they do not say anything about who was the first person to be widely described as a "supermodel", and they don't say anything about her substantial role in popularizing the term. Even if Janice wasn't the first person to create the term, and even if she wasn't the first person who could now fit the description, it seems to me that she was the first person to really become strongly associated with the term "supermodel". Thus, I think her claim that she is the world's first supermodel could be viewed as correct. In any case, the way these articles dispute her claims sound like they're attacking her. The tone doesn't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia. Herorev (talk) 23:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't seem like we're attacking her to me. The way that an IP kept changing it to, it did. I'm not sure if that's the version you read. Or the version that's there now. But this current version (the one on this day and hopefully neutral-sounding long after this day) I think is fine. Flyer22 (talk) 17:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and for what you stated should be included in this article...if we have valid references for that, then, yeah. Flyer22 (talk) 17:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to state that I recently added more to this article, a section on Dickinson's early life and modeling career, which balances this all out. Flyer22 (talk) 12:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

The "Claim to be first supermodel" section is absurd! It's just a list of proofs against her statement. Is this a court of law or what? I think a simple summary of the main sources/magazines is enough, and something along the lines of Herorev's post here should be used to counterclaim this to create some balance, because right now it looks like someone is hellbent on proving her statement completely wrong.Dollvalley (talk) 23:05, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fair to point out that this claim only surfaced when she had something to sell: an agency, TV show, whatever. Never heard a word about her during that time. Twiggy, Jean Shrimpton, Lauren Hutton, even Verushka. Definitely not Janice Dickinson.Mosemommee (talk) 20:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)Mosesmommee

The section is basically not much different than the section about it in the Supermodel article; it just seems more accusatory in this (the Janice Dickinson) article. Flyer22 (talk) 00:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

This heading for the section is certainly more neutral, for a start. Flyer22 (talk) 00:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo

I tagged this for a photo. I'm looking, but if you find a good one before I do, please let me know talk--Basedgroup (talk) 17:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone else realize that the picture posted on this profile is NOT ACTUALLY HER!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarianaGuerra (talk • contribs) 16:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

LOL. Yes, and that photo was removed after not being there for too long anyway. Flyer22 (talk) 00:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

D/O/B

Pretty sure Janice Dickinson is not -157 years old, being born in 2165...can someone get that changed to her real d/o/b. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.161.154 (talk) 19:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it was vandalism, which was carried out throughout the article with crazy vandalism dates. Another editor has already fixed that mess. Flyer22 (talk) 10:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)